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Hello. Your edit history shows that you are a Single-purpose account, since all of your edits have been about Above (artist). That's not necessarily a bad thing, but some of your edits have been pretty heavily promotional (this:[1] being an example of what I mean). Maybe you already know all of this, but if you are connected to Above, you might have a conflict of interest, and you need to read this: WP:COI. If you are just an admirer, you should probably read WP:NOTADVOCATE, if you haven't already. Grayfell (talk) 04:09, 30 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

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I admire your enthusiasm. The article needs a lot of work, it should not be a catalog of every single thing the artist has done. I'm trying to go through and pair down to essentials and noteworthy pieces. Adding a ton of details is only making it harder to tell which parts are really important. Adding links to a bunch of videos and an ad for a book is never acceptable. Grayfell (talk) 22:26, 6 January 2013 (UTC)Reply

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Please familiarize yourself with external link guidelines. It is very very rare that you should be adding external links to pages. Your edits are still FAR too promotional, and this isn't helping. Grayfell (talk) 00:21, 22 January 2013 (UTC)Reply

Okay thank you Grayfell for you support and modifications. Your revisions look stronger and more refined. I will try to tone down my links and enthusiasm for this artist in the wikipedia page.

No prob. Using external links is fine inside ref tags, or in talk pages, but in the article it's usually not okay.
Having some examples of what he does is great, but the article makes everything he does look exactly the same. All the examples are given the same amount of space, and explained in the same level of detail. I don't think that's very flattering to him, honestly. If you can figure out some of the bits-and-pieces that aren't critically important for understanding the artist, and remove them, that would be a huge improvement to the article.
If the only source talking about a piece that Above did is from Above himself than he better be saying "This is one of the most important pieces I have done" or something like that, because otherwise, it doesn't deserve more than a single sentence, (if that). This is NOT a catalog of every piece he's done. If it's not important to other people, and it's not important to Above, why is it in the article?
You might want to look over some of the article on this list:Wikipedia:Good_articles/Art_and_architecture#Art These are all articles that are especially good. Most of the artists on this list who have been making art for as long as Above, like Olek (very, very different artist, but been active for about as long) have articles much smaller than Above's. Figuring out what belongs in an article is difficult until after some time has passed.
Also, I am following your talk page, so you can respond here, and I will see it. Or, of course at Talk:Above (artist) and a lot more people who are interested will see it.Grayfell (talk) 06:20, 22 January 2013 (UTC)Reply

Thank you very kindly Grayfell for your words of wisdom. Your revisions really are wonderful and appreciated. As a fan of this artist and others I try to inform on their respective artworks. I will continue to finish the artist's key and notable doing for 2012. (small text about his solo exhibition in Melbourne, but mostly focus on his #socialmedia piece in Denmark and the artist's painting in Spain about the global economy.) I feel these are important to discuss in his 2012 archive. After these are added all we need to do is wait until the end of 2013 for updating his wikipedia page. Thank you again for making his and other artist pages refined and spectacular. -Carter.

You're welcome. I don't think the #socialmedia video belongs as a separate link, but I'm not sure, since the paragraph is about the video itself, rather than a video of a separate installation. (Personally I think the video is extremely cool, and yes, I admit it, I did share it on Facebook.) I'm going to poke around the Manual of style and see what it says about video links like that. It's not a situation I've dealt with before. Grayfell (talk) 03:07, 24 January 2013 (UTC)Reply
I looked into the video link issue, but didn't find anything. I think the best comparison would be a rock band and a music video. Even when a section is specifically about a music video, links to the actual video are (as far as I can tell) never included in the article. That's not really a Wikipedia policy, but it seems like a good indicator of how things go. Grayfell (talk) 03:44, 1 February 2013 (UTC)Reply

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