Globaljazz

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Email

Although the email you posted is interesting, I can assure you none of it will be in the article. I know this because I am an established user who has struggled to get basic facts included in the article for days. Your letter isn't even close to a reliable (WP:RS) secondary source (WP:PSTS). Please familiarize yourself with these two rules. Phlegm Rooster (talk) 20:49, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

Hi, Globaljazz. I think the reason you aren't having luck with that post to talk:sarah palin is that it is not a forum for general discussion of her. If you are trying to propose a specific change to the article, try starting a section with a short title related to the change you want, and use the email as evidence. Best, Kaisershatner (talk) 20:50, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

I've removed the huge section you added to Talk:Sarah Palin.[1] The discussion page is only to be used to discuss ways in which to improve the Sarah Palin article, not to discuss the deletion of another article. If you wish to contest the deletion of the article about the email, the proper place to do that is at deletion review. --Bobblehead ^(rants) 21:09, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

This is a warning. Please stop misusing the talk Sarah Palin page to repost that long email. Please reply here if you aren't sure why it is repeatedly being deleted. Thanks. It is not a forum for general discussion of Sarah Palin. Are you proposing we add the email to her bio article, or mention it, or cite it there, or what exactly? Kaisershatner (talk) 21:11, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

I am proposing that the full text of the email, title, preceding text and references I posted remain as is in the Sarah Palin article. Why is my section being deleted when others are not? The information is completely verifiable. I have never had any of my additions deleted previously. I have been a Wikipedia member for at least 2 years. Globaljazz (talk) 21:19, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

In your 2 years here, have you seen any other biographical articles that contain a section such as the one you are proposing? It is one thing to argue for the inclusion of published criticism of Palin's record, with reliable secondary sources, and another to post a lengthy email of the sort you have been pasting. If your goal is the former, why not start a little smaller first? Kaisershatner (talk) 21:28, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

September 2008

You have been blocked from editing for a period of 24 hours for edit warring in an attempt to add an unreliable source to a biography of a living person. Please be more careful to discuss controversial changes or seek dispute resolution rather than engaging in an . If you believe this block is unjustified, you may contest the block by adding the text {{unblock|your reason here}} below. Tim Vickers (talk) 21:15, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

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Request reason:

The content I added is verifiable by thousands of mainstream media sources on Google + a phone call to Anne Kilkenny by www.snopes.com. I have never had any issues on Wikipedia before. I didn't know what happened is "warring" - and now that I know the policy I will not do this again. I will put a smaller article together. I don't believe any of my additions have never been deleted in the 2+ years I have been a Wikipedia member.Please explain as to why other additions remained on the Talk to allow comments and my addition was deleted completely.

Decline reason:

Ordinarily I'd be more receptive, but Talk:Sarah Palin has been an extremely busy talk page lately, so the slack-cutting will have to wait until things cool off. Phlegm Rooster linked to two policies about why this email is unacceptable, so I don't put a lot of stock in the explanation that you've now read the policy and will follow it -- that should have come before the block. As to why it's inappropriate, the links above explain it, and The Daily Journal even took pains to explain that they were verifying only that Kilkenny wrote the letter, not whether the contents of it were true. Anyway, the reason you were blocked was edit-warring, which is clear cut. Beyond that, the letter should not be reinserted, not even once, b/c it's a copyright violation to do so since all submissions to Wikipedia must be released under the GFDL and Anne Kilkenny hasn't explicitly done that with her letter.— chaser - t 00:46, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

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