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political associations of alliances

Hi @George Ho:, so today I understand that you have "moderate autism", and well I think that us understanding each other better will be good for a better working relationship, thanks.

So, I'm referring to the Cold War II article RfC, Czello's comment got me thinking about something. Regarding the Russia-China relationship, through online interactions and social media, I notice that there's one group in particular which does not like to see a Russia-China alliance: white-nationalists. Because, they are inclined to have a personal, racially ideological narrative of the western, white world facing off against the "yellow-chinese commie behemoth", Cold War II being a "race war" of sorts. These kinda racial (or racist) sentiments might even be seen subtly (or perhaps not so subtly lol) in wargames such as Command & Conquer: Generals, from almost two decades ago. And, Russia (or, the Russians being white people, and being a major white world power) being on the Chinese side complicates this personal, racistly ideological narrative of theirs. Halo FC (talk) 05:40, 26 September 2021 (UTC)

@Halo FC: Please strike out your accusations about groups being against another, or alternatively please erase the whole thread. To me, your comments are borderline on WP:NPA, so please be careful of what you will say from now on. --George Ho (talk) 05:47, 26 September 2021 (UTC)

@George Ho: Sorry, I thought that I just wanted to share with you something interesting from what I've observed about the political situation out in the world, and I have absolutely no intention of launching personal attacks against any fellow wikipedian at all, nor accusing any fellow wikipedian of being a white-nationalist. If you read it again, I think that you'll see it more clearly, and that it's non-inflammatory, thanks. For example, by stating one group in particular, I actually meant that there are different groups which have different reasons or underlying thinking for the same shared focus. I hope that you've come to see me as a civil person and definitely not the kind of person who would suddenly accuse random wikipedians of being white-nationalists, well rest assured, that's not me at all. At the same time, I think we can agree that white-nationalists do not like to see a Russia-China alliance, which I thought is an interesting thing which I wanted to share with you. Halo FC (talk) 06:39, 26 September 2021 (UTC) (edited Halo FC (talk) 07:20, 26 September 2021 (UTC))

...Still, seeing Cold War II as a "race war" is something that I wanna avoid perceiving it as, especially without one reliable source verifying your opinions. I also would avoid accusing one group of something, but I can't stop you. If someone else, like an admin, sees your comments as what I initially thought, then I won't contest that person's perception. George Ho (talk) 07:05, 26 September 2021 (UTC)

Ohh, uhhh..., well it's not supposed to be about me trying to convince anyone that they should perceive Cold War II as a "race war", it's just about how white-nationalists might perceive it. As that was the point, if we were to ourselves perceive it as a race war, then we'd be being similar to the racist nationalists. And I just wanna clarify what you initially thought, and you aren't gonna call an admin on me are ya, lol. Because, describing the group named "white-nationalists", I mean, they're white-nationalists after all, so I think that we can describe them lol Halo FC (talk) 07:20, 26 September 2021 (UTC) (edited Halo FC (talk) 16:12, 27 September 2021 (UTC))

Cold War

Wow. Ok, I thought a few subsections would help the page a great deal. But it is a mess far beyond the amount of time I am willing to put into it. Or put another way it needs a complete rewrite and we can't even agree on what the first image should be. I am going to try a rollback of sorts and while I am at it, I will try to understand what I am screwing up through using visual. Give me a moment. Dushan Jugum (talk) 06:41, 26 September 2021 (UTC)

Well that was fun. Thank you for your time. Dushan Jugum (talk) 06:52, 26 September 2021 (UTC)

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