User talk:George Ho/Archives/2017/February

Reference errors on 1 February

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Gbawden (talk) 09:33, 3 February 2017 (UTC)

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Schallplatten listed at Redirects for discussion

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Re: Protection on Template:Missing information

Re your message: I think it being transcluded in 1,000+ articles would qualify it for being high-risk. I also do not see any particular reason for the protection to be lowered as the template should be stable without much need for any editing. Is there a particular reason why you want it lowered? -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 04:53, 6 February 2017 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Trent Kelly (coast guard) (February 6)

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Winged Blades ^Godric 05:50, 6 February 2017 (UTC)

A Young Man's World

I restored the infobox and removed your comment. The infobox is a summary of info (see WP:LEADELEMENTS). There's no reason to remove it just because the info is in the body of the article, and there's nothing remotely contentious about using the film infobox in thos article. Your pre-emptive edit note that it should not be restored without discussion is not appropriate. The infobox is there for a reason, it has been in the article for a long time, and if you want to remove it I believe it is up to you to take it to the talk page and get consensus to do so. Meters (talk) 19:48, 6 February 2017 (UTC)

@Meters: I apologize for those comments I made earlier this month. Well, it's a belated apology. Anyway, I just got hung up by severely heated debates in RfC discussions about infoboxes in biographies. That was wrong of me to say a pre-emptive note about an infobox. From now on, I must be careful about making hidden comments to editors. By the way, I did add the infobox when the article was created. I could make a discussion about each infobox, but I fear the heat. --George Ho (talk) 12:00, 21 February 2017 (UTC)

I was just letting you know why I undid you. I would have recognized your name if I had run across you making similar edits before, so, no problems. I wasn't aware of the RFCs. Meters (talk) 18:19, 21 February 2017 (UTC)

@Meters: Here are Talk:Stanley Kubrick, Talk:Frank Sinatra, and Talk:Noël Coward. You can read them if you like. --George Ho (talk) 03:02, 22 February 2017 (UTC)

Also, Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Infoboxes. I wonder whether you were aware of the ArbCom case three years ago. --George Ho (talk) 03:05, 22 February 2017 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free image File:Golden Girls cast miami song.jpg

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Never Gonna Dance Again

You didn't get a response on the Help Desk.

I would say a song that actually has that title should be the primary topic and George Michael's should be a hatnote.

Oops. Neither song actually has that title.

So what do you want to do?— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 22:07, 9 February 2017 (UTC)

@Vchimpanzee: Thanks for responding, and thank you for being bold and converting the page to a redirect to Careless Whisper. Best to accept the changes you made for now. Nevertheless, if the page is changed back and forth, we may take it to RFD someday. --George Ho (talk) 02:36, 10 February 2017 (UTC)

Oops, should have thanked SNUGGUMS for it. --George Ho (talk) 02:37, 10 February 2017 (UTC)

Edward Leung Yiu-ming

Hi, George! About Edward Leung Yiu-ming, have you found two newspaper articles that are mostly or entirely about him? If so please let me know which articles so I can read them.

If you haven't found such articles, I suggest searching archives of the South China Morning Post and The Standard. WhisperToMe (talk) 08:04, 10 February 2017 (UTC)

@WhisperToMe: I tried finding this person from SCMP but found none there. Same for The Standard. BTW, here's Draft:Edward Leung Yiu-ming. George Ho (talk) 10:01, 10 February 2017 (UTC)

Reference errors on 13 February

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Your submission at Articles for creation: Airbag (Spanish band) (February 14)

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File:A. A. Gill BBC 2012.jpg

Moved to File talk:A. A. Gill BBC 2012.jpg

 – George Ho (talk) 08:18, 15 February 2017 (UTC)

Hi George Ho. You uploaded File:A. A. Gill BBC 2012.jpg the day after Gill died in December 2016. Did you check around to see if there existed any freely licensed files of him or did you try and see if someone could create a freely licensed file of him? While item 10 of WP:NFCI does allowed files of deceased individuals to be used as the primary means of identification in biography articles, WP:NFCC#1 generally requires that all options be reasonably explored and that non-free use is not automatic simply because a person has died. For reference, this kind of thing was recently touched on at Wikipedia talk:Non-free content/Archive 67#Photographs of the deceased while they were living. -- Marchjuly (talk) 07:23, 15 February 2017 (UTC)

@Marchjuly: Hey there. I checked at Flickr. None of them is commercially released nor is released with "Creative commons" license. I wanted to contact the person who created the other photo, but I didn't think that would be appropriate, given at the time of A. A. Gill's death. Shall I contact that person? If so, how do I ask that person to release it to Commons without saying something inappropriate, i.e. spiting a person's death just to obtain rights to share a photo? --George Ho (talk) 07:39, 15 February 2017 (UTC)

Also, see Wikipedia:Files for discussion/2016 May 21#File:Reg Grundy 20 September 2010.jpg, which discussed two images, including File:Reg Grundy 20 September 2010.jpg. The Reg Grundy image was nominated two weeks after his death. The result was "no consensus" for the Grundy image only. --George Ho (talk) 07:43, 15 February 2017 (UTC); edited. 07:59, 15 February 2017 (UTC)

I am aware of the discussion and also remember how contentious it was. No one is suggesting that you need to get on the phone the minute after a person dies to see if their family, friends, etc. will agree to freely license an image. The question is how reasonable of an effort was made to find a freely licensed equivalent in the single day that passed from when Gill died and when you uploaded the file. In one day you might be able to determine that no freely licensed equivalent currently exists, but not necessarily that one cannot be created. I don't think non-free images are not really intended to be place holder images until a freely licensed one can be found, they are intended to be used after reasonable efforts to find/create a freely licensed images have proven to be unsuccessful. -- Marchjuly (talk) 08:06, 15 February 2017 (UTC)

Atheophobia

I don't understand how this is neologism when the same exact term is used within other languages on Wikipedia on top of the fact that I didn't coin the term, someone else did.

It just absolutely angers me that I can't make any contributions to this site without being subject to censorship, and hence, why I have one foot out the door.

Mateoski06 (talk) 21:27, 15 February 2017 (UTC)

Replied at your talk page. George Ho (talk) 21:58, 15 February 2017 (UTC)

It's not just this. Other situations as well have occurred where I put in a lot of hard work, just to see it get taken down/reverted because someone doesn't like it. This usually results in someone edit warring with me for no reason as well, which also angers me. Not saying you're edit warring and whatnot, but I feel as if I cannot contribute anything to the site without being censored in some form. Mateoski06 (talk) 23:22, 15 February 2017 (UTC)

Skyroof

Given that you requested the redirect at Wikipedia:Articles for creation/Redirects#Redirect request: Skyroof, could you please weigh in with a vote at Wikipedia:Deletion_review/Log/2017 February 13#Skyroof, since that discussion was started because of your original redirect request? Thank you. —Lowellian (reply) 11:19, 17 February 2017 (UTC)

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My self-revert

Hi, George. I made an edit that I self-reverted at New York Daily News after seeing the the RfC ended, which I didn't know it had. So your lead sentence remains as you wrote it. Just wanted to reassure that I immediately saw my mistake. All good. --Tenebrae (talk) 21:50, 20 February 2017 (UTC)

Category:1954 television films

I've restored the category and added it as a category to the article you linked on my talk page. Best, UltraExactZZ ^Said ~ Did 19:23, 21 February 2017 (UTC)

Email ?

I got an alert that you sent me an email, but didn't actually get an email. As far as I know, we've never had any interaction here, so I suspect it's some type of Wikipedia bug. StuRat (talk) 19:23, 21 February 2017 (UTC)

StuRat, can you check your email address in your "Preferences" menu? Alternatively, you can email me. --George Ho (talk) 02:37, 22 February 2017 (UTC)

I emailed you. StuRat (talk) 03:40, 22 February 2017 (UTC)

Template:Centralized discussion and dates

The dates for adding and archiving at CENT are meant to reflect the dates they were added or removed from the template, which is not necessarily the start and end dates of the actual discussion. Now that you are aware of this, please fix the errors you introduced, thanks. Beeblebrox (talk) 20:07, 24 February 2017 (UTC)

Passive Aggressiveness Not Appreciated

Inappropriate comment/accusation

Hello, Mr. Ho- you recently posted a rather snarky and unnecessary comment on my talk page (see here), which unfortunately led to an unwarranted 24-hour block against me after I dissected your incivility (apparently, block-happy administrators on here have started treating this site as their own personal playground, which is a shame). For someone whose talk page welcoming message speaks of doing your best to be "friendly", it is rather odd to see you engage in such behavior. You mention that you are moderately autistic, though even with this social handicap, it is puzzling how you would not realize that asking another user to pick between two welcoming templates about incivility is an extreme example of passive aggressive crudeness, suggesting a deep-seated viciousness against any perceived nonconformity. Never mind the fact that I have been on Wikipedia for quite some time, that the matter was already being resolved on the Administrator's incidents/noticeboard (see here), or that my responses to the other user (GregJackP) were targeting his sickening racist statements after he proceeded to call me a moron. In sum, it was entirely unnecessary for you to involve yourself in the matter, or to post what you did. I would request an apology from you, but I feel such an endeavor would be futile at this point, so instead I'll end with this: stay off my damn talk page, capeesh? I'm so glad we could understand each other, Mr. Ho. In the meantime, feel free to continue advising someone who has advocated racist sentiments to tutor law at Wikiversity Law School- the more influence such individuals have on the Wikimedia community, the better, right? JordanGero (talk) 04:32, 27 February 2017 (UTC)

Note: The user who made the above (collapsed) comment is blocked for poor treatment with editors. If you wish, you may remove the whole thread. --George Ho (talk) 14:30, 1 March 2017 (UTC)