User talk:GeneralNotability/Archives/2021/January

Latest comment: 3 years ago by DarkMatterMan4500 in topic Hello:

locksupressed?

Regarding this edit, what does "locksupressed" mean? Is that different from glocked? -- RoySmith (talk) 21:32, 30 December 2020 (UTC)

RoySmith, it's globally locked + user's existence globally oversighted (if you try to look up the users, it's as if they no longer exist - centralauth says "no such user," all of their contribs have had the username suppressed). It's fairly rare - either egregiously offensive usernames, BLP vios, or outing. In this case, I suspect it was that first criterion - if you look at the usernames that were sent down the memory hole, they're amalgamations of the names of serial killers. GeneralNotability (talk) 21:42, 30 December 2020 (UTC)
GeneralNotability, Thanks. Yeah, I did notice the "no such user", but wasn't sure what to make of it. -- RoySmith (talk) 22:19, 30 December 2020 (UTC)

Request

Can you review this user User:PapaArnold, I think this is a sockpuppet of User:ParillasAndrie, his user page is exactly the same format as his other account which is User:TheGlimmerDays, they copied my user page format, suspiciously...... and I'm also curious. PapaArnold also edited the last page that TheGlimmerDays created. Thank you and Happy New Year! — ArriehM 💬 11:15, 31 December 2020 (UTC)

ArriehM, thanks, I'm not quite certain enough that it's them to block but have filed a sockpuppet investigation to get further information. GeneralNotability (talk) 14:26, 31 December 2020 (UTC)

Thank u so much! ArriehM (talk) 15:38, 31 December 2020 (UTC)

Deletion of draft

Hello,

Thanks for pointing out you felt the article I had written was unambigious advertising/promotion. I'm still learning the ropes and it's a bit of a learning curve!

Is there a way the draft can be restored for me to re-edit within the guidelines?

Thank you!

Zara153 (talk) 17:52, 31 December 2020 (UTC)

That sockpuppet

The Lord of the Rings fantasy sockpuppet. So, a big pattern of the CA version was to edit articles pertaining to Tibet, with Chinese POV. The Lieutenant version also edited Tibet pages, as the last 50 contributions depict. Both CA and the Lieutenant edited Tibetan Autonomous Region, and here's a "Tibet" search for CA [1] and a "Tibet" search for Lieutenant [2]. In the notes of the investigation, there's a question of whether there are active sockpuppet accounts still being used by whatever the current user name is: I think Chucky (a nickname) might still be here. The Lieutenant did work here, while a search on CA says that version didn't, but the page's most recent repeat edits are massive POV changes [3] almost verbatim from before, and something's strange here [4]... Chucky? Note that the reverts occurred about a month before CA's indef. Thought you might be interested. Pasdecomplot (talk) 22:50, 23 December 2020 (UTC) 23:30, 23 December 2020 (UTC)

Hi Pasdecomplot, I'm inclined to believe the CheckUser finding of "no obvious sockpuppets". Comparing CA with AdoTang, I don't see anything more than a shared point of view, and obviously Tibet is an area where a lot of people with a strong opinions show up. GeneralNotability (talk) 01:13, 24 December 2020 (UTC)
Hi Pasdecomplot, sorry for the late reply.
I have literally never heard of whoever this "CA", "Chucky", or "The Lieutenant" person is, and I do not have any "Chinese POV" I'm trying to drop into that article. I went to go edit 2008 Tibetan unrest because I stumbled upon it and, judging by the template notices or whatever they're called, I decided parts of it made strong, somewhat biased statements (both pro-Tibet and pro-China) that felt like their information was wiki-worthy, but they still needed a bit more work to make them more wiki-worthy. I also went to go try and clean the article, because I can do that. If I wanted to be as pro-China as you apparently believe I am, I would censor and cherrypick things from every source with some stupid bias about how the Chinese government is a bunch of angels or something. If I was a sockpuppet, I'd make meaningless edits then start slamming Tibet-related articles with pro-China topics, not make constructive edits to other articles for half a year before stumbling upon what I assume is your "stomping grounds", judging by your numerous, numerous edits to the page. I'm not a professional in this topic like I assume you may be; I used what I had in the article and went from there. And these aren't "recent repeat edits", I've literally only edited that page three times over the span of several months.
If you want to continue to work on that article and do whatever, biased or not, sure thing. That article is not my problem anymore, and I do not wish for it to be my problem anymore, because judging by how you've been bringing this up since my edit, I'm not keen on doing further edits to these types of contentious pages; the closest I think I'll ever get to the topic of China now is their food (which is absolutely delicious; hopefully this isn't proof of my "Chinese POV"!). Just because I'm fairly inexperienced with Wikipedia or I supposedly have some "shared point of view" (which I'm pretty sure I don't, though I wouldn't know if I do because I've never heard of this other guy) doesn't mean I'm a fake sockpuppet.
I just hope we can move on from this. AdoTang (talk) 23:47, 1 January 2021 (UTC)

Happy New Year!

Empire AS Talk! 13:25, 31 December 2020 (UTC)

Thank you Empire AS, I hope you and yours have a prosperous (and safe) new year! Though you seem to have an off-by-one error in your dates...or am I in a Rip van Winkle scenario? GeneralNotability (talk) 03:02, 1 January 2021 (UTC)
Oh, I forgot to write <includeonly> within the {{CURRENTYEAR}} and {{NEXTYEAR}} templates. Therefore, it happened. I've corrected it. Thank you.   Empire AS Talk! 06:48, 1 January 2021 (UTC)

sockpuppet edit?

I noticed you recently changed the sockpuppet tag on User:CaradhrasAiguo to say that he is a suspected sockpuppet of User:LemonadeDrinker. However, on the investigation page it seems somewhat uncertain, and some say it's unlikely that they are related. It replaced a sockpuppetry tag for User:Lieutenant_of_Melkor, where the connection was much stronger. Just pointing this out in case it was a mistake. DrIdiot (talk) 13:47, 1 January 2021 (UTC)

DrIdiot, you're like the third person to point that out to me this morning...seems CaradhrasAiguo is quite popular! That was a mistake on my part, meant to tag a different sock in that SPI. Fixed, thanks for letting me know! GeneralNotability (talk) 14:09, 1 January 2021 (UTC)
I guess this is the first Wiki drama I've been tangentially involved in so I've been paying a bit more attention! DrIdiot (talk) 14:53, 1 January 2021 (UTC)

A kitten for you!

 

Happy New Year!!!.. A Little Late. :D

Tatupiplu'talk 11:07, 2 January 2021 (UTC)

The Downlink Volume 2 Issue 3

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Administrators' newsletter – January 2021

News and updates for administrators from the past month (December 2020).

  Guideline and policy news

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  Arbitration

  • By motion, standard discretionary sanctions have been temporarily authorized for all pages relating to the Horn of Africa (defined as including Ethiopia, Somalia, Eritrea, Djibouti, and adjoining areas if involved in related disputes). The effectiveness of the discretionary sanctions can be evaluated on the request by any editor after March 1, 2021 (or sooner if for a good reason).
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Regarding Sockpuppet investigation

@GeneralNotability: Hi admin, as you recently closed this investigation Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Gfstudent21. I have some question, if I suspect the said user evaded block by creating 2 new account, do I need to create new investigation or can I reopen the closed investigation with more details? Thanks – Paper9oll (📣📝) 16:08, 6 January 2021 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) New case please Paper9oll. Even if the case were still open, once the clerks & checkusers have started in on a case it's usually the best option (and always the safest option) to start another report. Cabayi (talk) 16:17, 6 January 2021 (UTC)
@Cabayi: Noted. Thanks – Paper9oll (📣📝) 16:20, 6 January 2021 (UTC)

RevDel

Hi GeneralNotability, thanks for the block of IP User:92.19.97.14. Can you please revdelete their edits on Timo Werner and Roman Abramovich? Thank you. --Ashleyyoursmile! 13:31, 8 January 2021 (UTC)

Ashleyyoursmile, I'm a step ahead of you - everything should be deleted already. GeneralNotability (talk) 13:34, 8 January 2021 (UTC)
Thank you. --Ashleyyoursmile! 13:36, 8 January 2021 (UTC)

15:41, 11 January 2021 (UTC)

SPI

Hello, an SPI case that you've previously reviewed is active and in need of a review again. If you are available, would you please take a look? It has been sitting for a few days with the IP occasionally continuing to edit in the same manner as his blocked sockmaster account and various registered and IP socks over the past 3 years. Thank you! Billcasey905 (talk) 19:17, 10 January 2021 (UTC)

Billcasey905, handled. GeneralNotability (talk) 02:01, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

Rejs12345

Could you take a look at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Rejs12345/Archive? I wasn't sure if I should fix it up manually, or it it was better to leave it in its current state for you to examine. Thanks. -- RoySmith (talk) 15:06, 12 January 2021 (UTC)

RoySmith, for once I can completely blame this on old spihelper - I know for a fact that Vanjagenije is still using the Timotheus Canens version. I have no idea _why_ that happened, but no need to preserve its current messed up state. GeneralNotability (talk) 01:59, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

marquinhos Spi page

marquinhos is trolling the Wikipedia sockpuppet investigation page again. If you look at the history its the same sporadic writing style and admits to being in Brazil to. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Jack90s15&action=history https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/MarquinhosWikipediano212.88.245.189 (talk) 00:01, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

Happy New Year, GeneralNotability!

Thank you Moneytrees, I hope you and yours have a prosperous (and safe) new year! GeneralNotability (talk) 03:02, 1 January 2021 (UTC)

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Thank you Destroyeraa, I hope you and yours have a prosperous (and safe) new year! GeneralNotability (talk) 03:03, 1 January 2021 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CLXXVII, January 2021

 
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16:09, 18 January 2021 (UTC)

Who messed up your talk page sectioning

To answer your edit summary: it was ClueBot III, which has a bug and "doesn't understand section headers that have anything after the closing = in a header". —2d37 (talk) 10:02, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

  You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents § https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#WP:CIR, opening erroneous SPIs and persistent restoration of unsourced content. I don't know what you're going to say in here, so I'll keep my wits about me. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 22:19, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

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Sock tagging

Hi! I see you blocked DragoMynaa as previous account of TamilMirchi (SPI). Should the account not be tagged as socks? Because SPI page doesn't list these and it's hard to understand the history/connection. Is there a reason they are not tagged (SPI stuff has so many behind-the-scenes rules and stuff...)? I only accidentally stumbled on DM account and saw the block reason is UPE/socking.

As a side note, I've seen TM's editing before and it was very clearly UPE behaviour-wise, although I could never really connect any accounts (due to multiple sock farms and endless IPs) and a CU can't act from "suspicion only" even if I personally would consider these cases completely reasonable to check. For example, there's constantly overlap stuff like Special:Contributions/72.141.90.233 / compare but actually going through their edits to be certain and to make an SPI case is extremely exhausting. They'll be back with another proxy or account in a week anyway. :( I look at the amount of articles they REFBOMB and wonder if it should all just get G5 nuked or ignored. Anyway, I'm just ranting. —  HELLKNOWZ   ▎TALK 22:17, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

@Hellknowz: Random thought: an edit filter that will flag when editors create multiple articles per week over an certain duration. I've spotted numerous of these kinds of accounts over the years and it seems really far-fetched that most editors with this pattern are constructing them from scratch and/or by themselves when they're cranking out one per day. TM created FOUR on 29 October 2020, TWO on the 28th, FOUR on the 16th, TWO on the 15th... C'mon. Also, we need someone smart to write some algorithms to detect UPE quicker. Of course what I mean by "algorithms", since I have no experience writing software is just "a magical program that solves the problem", which is easier said than done... Cyphoidbomb (talk) 00:54, 25 January 2021 (UTC)
Cyphoidbomb, speaking as a software engineer, that's basically what algorithms are ;). Edit filters don't really have "state" (that is, every filter hit is basically independent of all other hits) and aren't great for catching a number of actions over a long period of time (their only time-duration capability is the the "warn/block if this filter is hit more than X times in Y duration" option). This would probably need to be a bot job (thankfully, not one that needs approval, since this bot wouldn't edit) GeneralNotability (talk) 16:07, 25 January 2021 (UTC)
Hellknowz, I left DragoMynaa untagged because it wasn't a policy-violating sock per se - TamilMirchi had disclosed that as an abandoned previous account, I blocked it because it's standard procedure to block alternative/previous accounts. This is a discretionary area - tagging it and leaving it untagged are both correct for different reasons. GeneralNotability (talk) 16:00, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

SPAs at Talk:Sushant Singh Rajput

This is maybe a crazy question, but how controversial would it be to indef the various SPAs who show up to do their fan justice nonsense at that talk page. To me, that's kind of the quintessence of WP:NOTHERE. They're not here to help the encyclopedia, they're just here to ingratiate themselves with a dead actor. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 00:41, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

Cyphoidbomb, I don't think it's crazy at all, you're absolutely right that they're NOTHERE. GeneralNotability (talk) 16:01, 25 January 2021 (UTC)
Thanks for the feedback! Cyphoidbomb (talk) 17:16, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

18:30, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

Hello:

Do you have a minute to share your opinion on this investigation? DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 10:53, 29 January 2021 (UTC)