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National Salvation Front (Romania)

That ref does not establish your premise. El_C 00:27, 16 May 2019 (UTC)

How so? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gbjerkec‎ (talk • contribs)

I'm not here to prove a negative. Can you quote to pertinent portion where it does so? El_C 00:31, 16 May 2019 (UTC)

On page 15 or so of the article it outlines that Iliescu's faction of the National Salvation Front wanted a change in Communism, rather than a switch to capitalism. Should I clarify by adding the brackets to show that only a group within the National Salvation Front advocated Social Democracy, Communism and Democratic Socialism? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gbjerkec‎ (talk • contribs)

Sorry, maybe I'm a bit thick, but again, can you just directly quote a passage in support of this? El_C 00:45, 16 May 2019 (UTC)

Hey no worries, it's a reasonable request. I just lost accsess to the full article. I do have an alternative source here: https://www.princeton.edu/~gpop/APartyForAllSeasons.pdf which I can quote directly from.

Where would I put this quote, though?

In the final part of the paper I evaluate three possible explanations of this successor party dominance: (1) a democratic deficit in Romanian politics, (2) popular support for Communism, (3) the legacies of the Ceausxescu regime and the 1989revolution.466G. Pop-Eleches / Communist and Post-Communist Studies 41 (2008) 465e479 Defining successor parties: the Romanian challenge and its theoretical payoffsCommunist successor parties can be identified along three dimensions (1) institutional continuity, whereby political parties trace their lineage directly to that of theCommunist Party; (2) leadership and personnel continuity and (3) ideological continuity. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gbjerkec‎ (talk • contribs)

Sorry, but that passage does not specifically establish the claim. Anything else? El_C 00:52, 16 May 2019 (UTC)

I just need a mention that they subscribe to that ideology. El_C 00:54, 16 May 2019 (UTC)

The only issue is that not everyone in the party subscribed to one ideology. It was a big tent, catch-all sort of organization that was formed in opposition to the Ceaușescu regime. Some people wanted a change economically, and some wanted to keep hold of Communism.

Maybe this is a little better:

As Tismaneanu (2003)argues, while Romanians had rejected the Ceaușescu regime in 1989, large parts of the population still favored key elements of the Communist welfare state. The FSN’s spending spree in early 1990 combined with assurances about a more gradual approach and painless approach to economic reforms undoubtedly contributed to the ex-Communists’ broad popularity and resounding electoral success. However, while such gradualist preferences were clearly visible in 1991, when Romania was the only East European country where a majority of respondents (57.7%) thought that a market economy was wrong for their country, by the following year 73% of Romanians favored a free market economy and pro-market attitudes in the country have been above the regional average ever since.4Nor did the economic hardships and political disappointments of the transition result in a substantial popular reorientation towards Communism (...) the shareof self-declared Communists among Romanian voters was minimal in 2000e2004(2e3 percent). Moreover, even though Social Democrats constituted the largest voting block and provided the backbone for the ex-Communist PSD’s strong electoral showing, they only accounted for one-third of the electorate, a proportion roughly in line with the regional average. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gbjerkec‎ (talk • contribs)

No, it's not. It doesn't speak to that wing's ideological tendency. Hold on. I'm reading the article. El_C 01:05, 16 May 2019 (UTC)

On closer read, it looks like there's something to that, at least before 1990 (p. 469). El_C 01:12, 16 May 2019 (UTC)

Would a time stamp in the infobox help to clarify this? eg: Communism (before 1990) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gbjerkec‎ (talk • contribs)

Ooh, synchronicity! El_C 01:18, 16 May 2019 (UTC)

By the way, the convention on Wikipedia is to sign talk page comments. You do this by typing four tildes (~~~~). I've gone ahead and done that for you here. Happy editing. El_C 01:24, 16 May 2019 (UTC)

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