Estshr

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October 2022

Hello. Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia.

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I noticed your recent edit to Southern United States does not have an edit summary. You can use the edit summary field to explain your reasoning for an edit, or provide a description of what the edit changes. Summaries save time for other editors and reduce the chances your edit will be misunderstood. For some edits a summary may be quite brief.

Please provide an edit summary for every edit you make. With a Wikipedia account you can give yourself a reminder to add an edit summary by setting Preferences → Editing → Prompt me when entering a blank edit summary, and then click the "Save" button. Thanks! Peaceray (talk) 14:11, 5 October 2022 (UTC)

February 2023

Hello, I'm Sundayclose. I noticed that you added or changed content in an article, Southern American English, but you didn't provide a reliable source. It's been removed and archived in the page history for now, but if you'd like to include a citation and re-add it, please do so. You can have a look at referencing for beginners. If you think I made a mistake, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. Sundayclose (talk) 17:09, 11 February 2023 (UTC)

I stated what the source was. The very map shown in the article. Estshr (talk) 20:10, 11 February 2023 (UTC)

Please do not add original research or novel syntheses of published material to articles as you apparently did to Southern American English. Please cite a reliable source for all of your contributions. See details on my talk page. Sundayclose (talk) 20:24, 11 February 2023 (UTC)

I added an additional reliable source for my edits. Estshr (talk) 20:32, 11 February 2023 (UTC)

Your recent editing history at Southern American English shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war; that means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be, when you have seen that other editors disagree. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war; read about how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.

Being involved in an edit war can result in you being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you do not violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly.
Get consensus on the talk page for your edit. You are violating Wikipedia policy. Read WP:BRD. Sundayclose (talk) 20:59, 11 February 2023 (UTC)

My apologies. No intention of an "edit war" was meant. I will refrain from further edits on this section, as I hope will Sundayclose. My intention was to demonstrate via the sources already provided and cited in the article that Maryland indeed has a documented Southern accent, as evidenced by academic and non-academic sources. I have provided an additional academic source that supports the assertion that Southern American English is still found in parts of Maryland. Maryland, whose Eastern Shore was site of the enslavement of Harriet Tubman and Frederick Douglass, a state listed by the U.S. Census Bureau as part of the South Atlantic region, and one which has deep historical roots as the birthplace of Southern culture (along with Virginia) in its Chesapeake Tidewater region, it only stands that a Southern accent lives on in its southernmost reaches. Estshr (talk) 21:21, 11 February 2023 (UTC)

Thank you for providing a reliable source. Edit warring is not based on who is right or wrong, or intention. For future reference, you should discuss edits that are challenged for inadequate sourcing instead of repeatedly reverting. I fail to understand the significance of your comments about enslavement from hundreds of years ago as it relates to current accents in Maryland, but I have no need for further explanation now that you have finally provided an acceptable source. Sundayclose (talk) 21:28, 11 February 2023 (UTC)

Thank you for the explanation. I guess my confusion was about the sources and what was considered good for one entry but not another, or what was considered academic and not. As you can see, I am fairly new to Wikipedia editing, and understanding it can be a bit overwhelming.

My comments about enslavement are actually very pertinent: Maryland's long history with slavery from colonial times through the Civil War is a distinctly Southern phenomenon. Our large African American population pre-dates the Great Migration, unlike the Northeastern states. We have proud rural black communities here in the southern half of the state that trace back to the slavery era, and we are a part of the "Black Belt" region of the American South Black Belt in the American South. Our Southern African American dialect - which you can find in Southern Maryland and the lower Eastern Shore - is rooted in the Southern planter culture of the antebellum era. That was the reason I mentioned our esteemed Marylanders, Tubman and Douglass, who were part of these communities. Estshr (talk) 23:17, 11 February 2023 (UTC)