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Neoplasticism edit

Your additions all looks credible but that is not good enough to meet the Wikipedia policy WP: verifiability. You need to cite a WP:reliable source in support of what you write.

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Wikipedia and copyright edit

  Hello Egrabczewski! Your additions to Rubinstein–Taybi syndrome have been removed in whole or in part, as they appear to have added copyrighted content without evidence that the source material is in the public domain or has been released by its owner or legal agent under a suitably free and compatible copyright license. (To request such a release, see Wikipedia:Requesting copyright permission.) While we appreciate your contributions to Wikipedia, it's important to understand and adhere to guidelines about using information from sources to prevent copyright and plagiarism issues. Here are the key points:

It's very important that contributors understand and follow these practices. Persistent failure to comply may result in being blocked from editing. If you have any questions or need further clarification, please ask them here on this page, or leave a message on my talk page. Thank you. — Diannaa (talk) 20:56, 20 April 2024 (UTC)Reply

Did you compare my input with the original sources? Egrabczewski (talk) 23:32, 20 April 2024 (UTC)Reply
Yes, with the help of an automated tool provided by Turnitin. — Diannaa (talk) 00:11, 21 April 2024 (UTC)Reply
Regarding your use of Turnitin. Is this tool available to all users of Wikipedia, so that we can check your judgement?
Secondly, it appears that you never actually looked at the sources and checked my contribution to Wikipedia against these sources. I would argue that they are not so closely related to the orginal articles as to cause a copyright problem. Using data from a research paper is normally acceptable in another publication and the text of my article was not a copy of the papers, which came from several sources.
I think you have done a grave injustice to this article by deleting the changes, which contained important information for parents and carers who have children with this disease. It would have been better to discuss your issues with me beforehand rather than just removing the content without further dialogue. I would request that you don't just blindly use such tools but think and do the research yourself.
If after doing so you still feel that I have in any way crossed the line regarding copyright then please give me some details about exactly how, so that when I continue to write articles for Wikipedia, which I have been doing for the past twenty years, then I can include these considerations into my own contributions. Egrabczewski (talk) 07:25, 21 April 2024 (UTC)Reply
You can check the results from Turnitin by visiting the CopyPatrol reports that I mentioned in my edit summaries (https://copypatrol.wmcloud.org/en?id=1aebcddd-3249-4c77-889f-2415ac0fef03, https://copypatrol.wmcloud.org/en?id=fd49b3e1-20be-4cfd-8734-fd63fd7548e0). In order to review the iThenticate reports you will have to first log in to the CopyPatrol system and agree to the terms of use of the Turnitin people, who have kindly donated the use of this tool to Wikipedia. Then, you will be asked to provide authorization at Meta for access to your account. Now you are logged in to the CopyPatrol system.
Click on the link to the iThenticate report you wish to view, so that you can see what was found by the detection service (The iThenticate reports may take a while to load). Since the source paper https://doi.org/10.1002/ajmg.a.34058 is behind a paywall, I am not able to view it in its entirety, but I make a judgement as to what to remove based on the highlighted overlapping material in the iThenticate reports.
This one is where you added a new section, medical issues. You can see that there's quite a bit of overlap with the source document, and very little would remain if I only removed the overlapping segments. So I removed the entire section as the remaining snippets would not make much sense as a standalone section.
This report shows the overlap in the new section you added about adults with RTS. Here the overlap was pretty complete, so I removed the entire section.
There's only a handful of people working on copyright cleanup and a high volume of cases to be assessed each day (currently about 100 reports a day to assess), so is discussion of each individual violation is not practical, and neither is rewriting the added content or doing our own research. — Diannaa (talk) 14:09, 21 April 2024 (UTC)Reply
I've managed to follow your instructions and been able to see iThenticate reports on the Medical Issues and Adults with RTS sections, so thanks for that :-)
In my "Adults with RTS" section, then many of the terms in question are words that are used generically to describe medical conditions, so these are presumably not subject to copyright claims. Words like: keloids, hipohidrosis, urinary tract infections, sleep apnea, heart problems, cancer, hypothyroidism, talon cusps, caries, dental problems etc. If you remove these terms from the report then presumably there would be a marked decrease in the precentage score. Unless it is possible to argue that writing down these generic medical terms in the same order is infringing copyright then all that remains is the use of particular phrases in the paper itself.
Oddly enough, where I wrote "32 males, 29 females" which is semantically the same as "32 males and 29 females" in the article, the report shows no overlap. This gives away the degree of "intelligence" in this tool. It's more concerned with the lexical ordering of words rather than the meaning.
Now I understand the issue, I'll rewrite these sections but avoid similar phrasing in the original articles. This doesn't remove the issue regarding the use of medical terminology, so I have to assume you'll use your judgement on that and not just look at the percentage score given by this tool! Egrabczewski (talk) 20:05, 21 April 2024 (UTC)Reply
An experienced patroller will notice that the content has only be superficially paraphrased and will make a decision based on how closely the source has been followed. Simply changing a few words in a sentence or doing a bit of re-ordering is still a copyright issue if the structure of the sentence is preserved. That said, lists are of course okay to use, especially if alphabetized or organized in some fashion that is not identical to the source document. — Diannaa (talk) 23:59, 21 April 2024 (UTC)Reply
I'll bear that in mind. Thank you for your help. Egrabczewski (talk) 06:29, 22 April 2024 (UTC)Reply