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Thank you for making me feel welcome! I saw some great info on your page. Will be back to visit. EditorAmanda (talk) 05:31, 12 April 2013 (UTC)

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Beverly Ross

Hi, Amanda -- I've been busy earning a living, but I haven't forgotten about the Beverly Ross project. I'm having trouble finding any source material other than her memoir, which is a primary source, which means that I can't use anything in it that isn't verified by a secondary or tertiary source. So we need to dig up some secondary & tertiary sources, which would include newspaper or magazine articles, published histories of that era, etc. Do you know of any? I'll keep looking, and meanwhile finish reading her memoir, which so far is quite interesting. DoctorJoeE ^{review transgressions}/_{talk to me!} 15:02, 11 April 2013 (UTC)

    Thanks.  I posted a few sources on your page a while back.  Below is a more extensive list:

Beverly Ross Press Links pages

Village Voice – Blogs Tony Ortega Mon. Apr 14, 2008 by Bob Reisner “The Defense of Rock ‘n’ Roll” http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runninscared/2008/04/clip_job_the_de.php

1. 6

Wiki – Lollipop song http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lollipop_%281958_song%29

Wiki – Julius Dixson http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julius_Dixson mention of Bev. – fact check

1. 95

Julius Dixon, 90, Songwriter Known for the 1958 Hit “Lollipop” By Ben Sisario published March 04, 2004 http://www.nytimes.com/2004/03/04/arts/julius-dixon-90-songwriter-known-for-the-1958-hit-lollipop.html

1. 104

Lady GaGa http://ohnotheydidnt.livejournal.com/42315874.html

1. 194

http://www.answers.com/topic/beverly-ruby-ross Bruce Eder

428 ranking Quote by Bev about Phil Spector http://www.people.com/people/archive/article/0,,20119510,00.html

733 Jeff Barry’s Career Chronology http://lpintop.tripod.com/jeffbarry/id1.html tiny mention of Bev.

1,337 http://www.tv.com/shows/american-bandstand/ab-347-beverly-ross-319833/ Beverly on American Bandstand Season 2, Episode 54, Aired 11/13/58 (http://dickclark.com/corporate/contact-us/) contact request

3,175 ranking Bio overview – check accuracy Bruce Eder http://www.allmusic.com/artist/ross-p191819

18,708 ranking Lady Gaga’s unreleased Kandy Life leaks http://idolator.com/5338412/lady-gagas-unreleased-kandy-life-leaks

20,611 ranking http://www.songfacts.com/detail.php?id=4120 misinformation – can leave comment here Lollipop song

http://www.songfacts.com/detail.php?id=18844 Dim Dim the Lights

63,071 ranking “Most recently, she teamed up with Emmy-award winning composer Thomas Spahn and hit song writer Beverly Ross (Lollipop, Judy's Turn to Cry) to write the World War II original musical, City Of Light, which is on track for a regional premiere with a projected move to Broadway” http://theatre.asp.radford.edu/guest_artists/guests/sparks/sparks.htm

¬¬¬¬¬¬¬ 200,848 ranking Says Beverly reclaimed 2 Elvis cut copyrights through Legacyworks http://www.musicrow.com/2011/06/legacyworks-reunites-songs-with-heirs/

308,730 DR. Pepper commercial http://www.clioawards.com/archive/results.cfm

http://www.answers.com/topic/ronald-ruby Incorrect information author Andrew Hamilton Rovi

11 million Mark Alan Dreyer article http://nashvilleconnection.com/EPK/epkbio.htm

12 million ranking http://www.waybackattack.com/gorelesley.html small mention of Bev in relation to Judy’s turn to cry

23 million ranking http://www.bobdylanscoffeetable.blogspot.com/2007_11_01_archive.html

little mention of Beverly – offers videos to view of Lollipop & Dim Dim the Lights

no rank Sam Bobrick http://www.sambobrick.com/press.php Elvis cuts with Bev.

PRINT:

Tennessean Showcase Sunday May 6, 1990 Review Robert Oermann – mention in “Stars conjure Orbison’s spirit for Showtime extraaganza.”

Billboard Volume 99, no 18 May 2, 1987 “ Sweet Hit” pic of Beverly with BMI’s Mark Fried celebrating “Stand By Me” movie release featuring “Lollipop”.

Billboard March 9, 2002 “Brill Building’s Ross Turns Her Hand to Theater Writing” by Deborah Evans Price. P. 40.

BOOKs:

“He’s a Rebel” by Mark Rabowsky pub. 1989 & 2003 – “the story’s not quite true or correct.” –Beverly Ross

1950s Radio in Color: The Lost Photographs of Deejay Tommy Edwards by Christopher Kennedy Foreward by Terry Stewart. Interview & picture of Beverly p. 178

Elvis Presley Writing For the King: The Stories of the Songwriters by Ken Sharp.

LOLLIPOP VIDEOS

Chordettes singing http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3sNTYWRt0U

http://wn.com/Lollipop_%281958_song%29

JULY 20th National Lollipop Day EditorAmanda (talk) 05:25, 12 April 2013 (UTC)

May I move stub?

Hello again, Amanda -- I've been slowly working my way through the source material, and if you have no objection, I would like to move the Beverly Ross stub from your sandbox to mine. The reason is that once we take the article "live", I want to avoid any possibility that someone might object to it on WP:COI grounds -- and believe me, there are people who like nothing better than raising such issues, particularly if it makes the DYK queue. It will also make it a bit easier for me to work on. Is that okay with you? DoctorJoeE ^{review transgressions}/_{talk to me!} 20:09, 15 May 2013 (UTC)

Yes, please do so, DoctorJoeE. I appreciate your help so much. 68.52.179.200 (talk) 23:52, 15 May 2013 (UTC)

Thanks, I appreciate it. I'll stay in touch -- I'm gonna need some help. DoctorJoeE ^{review transgressions}/_{talk to me!} 00:28, 16 May 2013 (UTC)

Just tell me what to do and I'm in. EditorAmanda (talk) 16:00, 16 May 2013 (UTC)

How about an autographed photo? (Just kidding.) DoctorJoeE ^{review transgressions}/_{talk to me!} 16:14, 16 May 2013 (UTC)

Haha. She'd do it in a heartbeat. There are a number of forthcoming news pieces by noted biographers coming out about here in the next few months. I can make sure the resources are listed on the talk page for the article once it's live so that other, less biased editors can have easy access to credible references. In the meantime, I intend to start tackling some of the glaring inaccuracies in the music publishing/business articles here. That's my real field of expertise - that and esoteric philosophy. :) Just threw in my two cents worth over on the ANI debate involving you. I'll probably regret getting in the middle of it, but I was moved to act as a character witness on your behalf.EditorAmanda (talk) 16:53, 16 May 2013 (UTC)

I appreciate the kind thought, but it's probably best to let those two continue to hoist themselves with their own petard. It's much ado over a non-issue, and the complete lack of admin attention demonstrates how seriously it is being taken. The difference is that you reacted rationally to my initial communication, and they did not. (You're right -- I almost said, yesterday, "Are we in 5th grade?" -- but held my tongue.) You run into people like that sometimes here, and you can't take it personally. In the words of a very wise fellow editor, "The only thing to take personally on Wikipedia is praise, you know. All else is random noise." I'll look forward to seeing those biographers' pieces, when you get them. DoctorJoeE ^{review transgressions}/_{talk to me!} 17:52, 16 May 2013 (UTC)