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Sorry, that was a mistake on my part, I did not realize that material had just been added, please feel free to fix that. It is always a good idea to put in a summary though. Pmokeefe (talk) 19:11, 4 February 2017 (UTC)

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Authorities for scientific names

Hi, the authorities of scientific names are always put in small font in the English Wikipedia. This can be done in various ways, via small tags, {{small}}, or special templates like {{Species list}}. See, e.g., the examples at Template:Taxobox#Authorities. Peter coxhead (talk) 07:29, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

Peter coxhead – Thanks for the information. The issue is when doing so causes misnested tag lint errors. I would encourage you and others to make sure whatever HTML and/or templates you use do not cause errors that later need cleaning up. Dylan38 (talk) 08:36, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

That's the advantage of using {{small}} or {{Species list}} and similar: they don't generate mismatched tags. Peter coxhead (talk) 11:06, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

Excellent. Feel free to update any of the pages I've edited with the appropriate, error-free syntax. Dylan38 (talk) 12:35, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

Small question

Why are you removing <small>. . .</small> tags? 203.132.90.143 (talk) 15:35, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

Because they are generating lint errors. Dylan38 (talk) 15:37, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

Thanks. From reading the section above, it is not preserving formatting. Can you replace:

1. <small> → {{small|
2. </small> → }}

instead? 203.132.90.143 (talk) 15:51, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

I'm not going to justify my edits to a random IP. If you have a better solution, jump in and help fix it. Dylan38 (talk) 15:59, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

Keeping formats of <small> or {{small}} is a valid goal from two editors here seeking a good solution, even if one editor is regarded as second class. Is the replacement suggestion not workable? 203.132.90.143 (talk) 16:30, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

If you took the time to actually review my edits, you'll see that the vast majority of them are in circumstances where small font is unnecessary/doesn't matter. The other thing you might notice is that in most cases, the tags surround multiple paragraphs, list items, or other blocks, which is what's throwing the error, and so a simple template replace that you're suggesting is not going to work. Note that in cases where the formatting is important, I have kept or improved it, while also getting rid of the lint errors. But I'm not going to simply replace all <small> tags with a template simply because that's how someone coded it several years ago. If you want to preserve formatting indiscriminately, go for it – I would love the help in clearing out the list of errors I linked above.

In terms of your "second class" status, if you want to be taken seriously, don't use an IP that has only edited things today. Create a username and log in. Dylan38 (talk) 16:59, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for the explanation. If you're not going to simply replace all <small> tags, as was done here, then I'm glad.

Taking the time to review your edits is important. That blanket removal of all such tags, whether causing errors or not, is indiscriminate.

I'm also glad for the "second class" in quotes. Anyone can contribute to Wikipedia. 203.132.90.143 (talk) 18:10, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

Hello Dylan38,

I'd like to jump in here, but first, thanks for you interest in cleaning up plant pages.

The usual format for synonyms is to "small" the authors rather than the binomial and the authors. (I confess to having done the same thing in the past and getting "pinged" for it!) I'll do a search for the "rule" and let you know when I've found it. Gderrin (talk) 01:17, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

Okay - can't find the exact "rule" but this comes close (under format:). Also checked out some plant "Featured Articles", including Banksia serrata and Banksia caleyi. You'd think that if the way the synonyms were cited, that someone would have fixed it?

I'm only referring to synonyms of plant names in plant articles, of course. Don't know about other articles. There are probably other plant articles that don't have the authors "smalled" (or the synonyms smalled too) - any help fixing those mistakes would be appreciated. Gderrin (talk)

None of the pages I've edited have had that format, including the one linked above by the anonymous person who started this section. The formatting is actually all over the place in the ones I've edited, with some of them using <small> tags to surround the entire section (which is what throws the lint error), and others using small text elsewise. If you can point to a specific page that I've edited which follows the correct format AND which does not now do so after I removed the small text, then I would be happy to fix it. But my goal here is related to resolving lint errors, not enforcing a format that — as you have discovered — is not formally documented anywhere. Dylan38 (talk) 08:17, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

• There are about 219,000 articles with automated taxoboxes. Every one that includes authority parameters (most of them) will have the authority displayed in small text automatically, because this is the agreed style since taxoboxes were first used. Manual taxoboxes are present in about 190,500 articles (a slowly reducing number as they are steadily converted to automated taxoboxes). These rely on editors manually creating small text for authorities. In my experience of monitoring taxobox error-tracking categories, the overwhelming majority are correct in this respect. Peter coxhead (talk) 06:35, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

Simply displaying small text properly should throw lint errors. Small text that is misnested will throw lint errors. So long as the automated taxoboxes do not cause lint errors, I will have no reason to visit them, as they won't show up on the misnested tags report. If you've seen me edit any page with an automated infobox that was not causing a lint error, please let me know and I will be happy to fix it. Dylan38 (talk) 08:17, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

Dylan38, did those first two pairs of <small>...</small> tags that you replaced in the previously linked edit here, enclosing 5 and 2 characters respectively, show lint errors? The instance enclosing a <br> further down might, but the others?203.132.90.143 (talk) 08:32, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

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