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Jeanne M. Borle

Hello! Thank you for creating this article. I am curious to know how many of the sources you listed are significant coverage-- let's say a half page or more? The ones I saw that were accessible were more in the spirit of minor mentions. --- Possibly (talk) 04:31, 2 June 2021 (UTC)

Hello! Thank-you for reaching out. The problem I ran into is that Borle is mentioned in brief encyclopaedic-style entries about botanists, but doesn't seem to have a full stand-alone article about her anywhere. The two main sources that I personally would point to, in an attempt to address the "significant coverage" issue, would be her entry in "Botanical Exploration of Southern Africa" (see: https://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/item/244776#page/115/mode/1up it should send you to page 200), and an entry in this Portuguese article on "Explorers and naturalists of the flora of Mozambique" (title page of article and beginning of the section on Borle).

If that isn't enough for the entry to be considered significant, then that's totally understandable. Drechmeria-RBGV (talk) 11:00, 2 June 2021 (UTC)

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wikidata and short descrip

has anyone walked you through these? - well worth it if it hasnt beendone

somebody had stated lothian was a new zealander with wrong birth date in wikidata - fixed

anything that smells of oz biota (ie in talk page Australian biota=yes) interests me in the smallest of ways

it took a number of oz editors over a year to move the whole biota-importance to base level deafult standard, and the actual checking of a range of biota items requiring moving up from one liner with inpenetrable sources - is in person hours - a task requiring endless optimism but probably very limited resources - there had been a sort of cohort of editors who steadily work through aspects of plant material - but the eternal vigilance requires more than a sense of humour... JarrahTree 05:53, 24 August 2021 (UTC)

Hello JarrahTree!

My goal, over the next 12 months, while I'm doing the RBGV GLAM project is to learn more about how wikidata works. And the whole short description thing, which I can't quite get right.
So hopefully I'll get better at the wikidata side of things soon.
But by and large, I create and edit wikipedia pages for collectors who have material held by the National Herbarium of Victoria, because they have caught my eye while I'm databasing specimens (I can't speak for the other editors involved in the project). So while it is a little random what I will work on next, I always hope that it's a useful contribution. But, like you say, there often is a lot of work behind making a small change!
Drechmeria-RBGV (talk) 06:12, 24 August 2021 (UTC)

Fayette F. Forbes

Nice to see the bio of Fayette F. Forbes that you added. He was, of course, an important figure in the town of Brookline, where I head the Historical Society.

There is a good photo of him published in the town's annual report after his death. I have a poor copy of it that I took with my phone 10 years ago but can get a better copy, and I should be able to get permission to use it from town officials. He is also in an 1890s photo of the low service pumping station that brought water to Brookline from the Charles River in West Roxbury. That has a creative commons license, though he is such a small part of the photo that it is probably not worth adding to the bio. https://www.digitalcommonwealth.org/search/commonwealth:6t053v032 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Brooklinehistory (talk • contribs) 15:56, 5 January 2022 (UTC)

Hello Brooklinehistory! I think, even if the photo of Forbes is very small, it would still be worth adding the photo to the article, to give context for his work on the town's water supply. I'll do that later today. If you do successfully source a portrait of Forbes himself, that would be absolutely amazing. I'll admit to always being curious to know what people looked like, back in the day.

Thank-you for getting in touch. I became interested in Forbes, when I databased some of his plant specimens here at the National Herbarium of Victoria, idly googled his name, and discovered he had an amazing career. So it's lovely to find someone else who also thinks he's an interesting fellow. Drechmeria-RBGV (talk) 21:02, 5 January 2022 (UTC)

Hi again Brooklinehistory, There seems to be a hiccup with the fantastic photo of the Brookline pumping station: the photo is licensed with a Creative Commons Attribution Non-Commercial No Derivatives License, which means it can't be used on Wikimedia. (It's apparently the "Non-Commercial No Derivatives" part that creates difficulties.) Drechmeria-RBGV (talk) 03:53, 6 January 2022 (UTC)

Yeah, I saw that and took it to mean it prohibited using just the zoomed in image of Forbes, which is what I initially thought would be a good addition to the article. But it would allow the full. non-derivative photo to be used. The full photo, with Forbes barely noticeable, doesn't really add much to the article.Brooklinehistory (talk) 12:58, 6 January 2022 (UTC)

It's a shame, but hopefully the article will be reviewed by a moderator and OK'ed as-is. Fingers crossed! Drechmeria-RBGV (talk) 20:49, 6 January 2022 (UTC)

@Brooklinehistory: I found the obituary that you mentioned! It's been scanned and put online here: https://archive.org/details/annualreportoft1935broo_0/page/n221/mode/2up?q=Fayette I am not very certain that the photograph is in the public domain. This page on copyright in the United States implies that it is: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_law_of_the_United_States#Works_created_before_1978 Drechmeria-RBGV (talk) 02:28, 26 August 2022 (UTC)

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Women in Red

Hi there, Drechmeria-RBGV, and thank you for all those well-presented articles about Australian women. I see you add the WiR tag to their talk pages but you do not appear to have registered as a member of the project. You can do so on the main WikiProject Women in Red page. If you prefer not to join, then in any case I look forward many more interesting biographies of women. Happy editing!--Ipigott (talk) 07:22, 3 December 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for your fab presentation

I just wanted to reach out and say what a great job you did in your recent presentation to the Australian Wikimedia folk (as well as drop in's such as myself) on the 8th of Feb and to thank you for taking the time to make that presentation. I think your project and the work you undertook was fabulous, particularly because you focused on women collectors, and hope that the RBGV will consider doing more in this space. Ambrosia10 (talk) 10:36, 8 February 2023 (UTC)

Thank-you for your kind words, @Ambrosia10.

But these sorts of projects are made so much easier when there's a community of people who are willing to give their time, and suggestions, for these sorts of projects. So I really should be thanking you, along with a number of familiar usernames, for all of your help in actually getting information into various Wikimedia sites.

With that said, I sincerely hope that RBGV continues to contribute add more information about our collectors to Wikidata, too! Drechmeria-RBGV (talk) 20:50, 8 February 2023 (UTC)

Mentioning your work in a SPNHC2023 presentation

Hi @Drechmeria-RBGV, I'm attending the upcoming SPNHC 2023 conference in San Francisco and will be presenting on “Reuse in Wiki empowers engagement with Natural History Collections”. I have completed my first draft of my slides and, as I use your work as one of three examples of Natural History Collection institutions directly engaging with Wiki Projects, I thought I should let you know what I’m doing. I’ve added a link to the draft slides below and hopefully you should be able to comment or give any feedback within the slides.

The whole presentation is only going to be a total of 15 minutes (with some of that time to be used for questions) so I’m afraid your work on the Royal Botanic Gardens Victoria connecting women project will only receive a mention rather than an in-depth discussion. Despite this I did want to make sure I highlighted the fabulous work that the Royal Botanic Gardens, Victoria, you and your colleagues are doing in this space.

These slides are due to be submitted on the 15th of May so if you do have any feedback I’ll need to receive it prior to that date in order to incorporate it. See https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1NLvYwniO4bbzs6aFrJ8IwGMzSZp6wjPULhyjI6Sn1BY/edit?usp=sharing for the first draft.

All the best,

Siobhan (aka User:Ambrosia10) Ambrosia10 (talk) 00:09, 5 May 2023 (UTC)

Hello @Ambrosia10,

My goodness, what wonderful news to hear. Congratulations on receiving funding to go to SPNHC 2023.

Thank-you so much for including the RBGV's Wikidata project in your presentation, it's really wonderful and humbling to know that we're contributing to the pool of knowledge that the various Wiki projects draw from. Your slides look fantastic.

The only very minor quibble from me, is that "Royal Botanic Gardens Victoria" shouldn't have a comma between "Gardens" and "Victoria" on slides 8 and 15, but that's it.

You have made my week with both the news that you're going to SPNHC, and that you're going to mention the project that I, and other colleagues, worked on. You'll knock their socks off when you share your extensive knowledge about the Wiki world!

(I've also passed your good news onto the other GLAM project team members.)

Drechmeria-RBGV (talk) 10:05, 5 May 2023 (UTC)

Hi @Drechmeria-RBGV,

Thanks for your lovely comments and the feedback. I've removed the commas as requested. If any of your team or others from the Botanic Gardens are heading to SPNHC please let them know I'd love to meet them as I'm always keen to hear about engaging with Wiki projects from the institutions perspective. Thanks also for sharing the news of my presentation with the GLAM project team members. As an aside, if you ever have any issues or questions or need any help regarding getting women collectors or folk relating to the botanic gardens into Wikidata, please reach out. I just love your and your team's work!

Siobhan Ambrosia10 (talk) 01:15, 6 May 2023 (UTC)

You are always so kind. Thank-you @Ambrosia10.

As far as I am aware, we don't have anyone going over to SPNHC this year but I am that sure many many other people will recognise your name, and want to say hello!

Drechmeria-RBGV (talk) 08:14, 11 May 2023 (UTC)

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A kitten for you!

Hello! I am practicing sending things and editing! Leucochrysum-RBGV (talk) 23:44, 26 February 2024 (UTC)

And an excellent job you're doing, too! Thank-you for the kitten @Leucochrysum-RBGV!

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Some stroopwafels for you!

Mmmm, stroopwafels... Lycoperdon-RBGV (talk) 23:48, 26 February 2024 (UTC)

Thank-you @Lycoperdon-RBGV for the delicious stroopwafels! Lekker!

- Drechmeria-RBGV (talk) 00:21, 27 February 2024 (UTC)

A goat for you!

Just kidding!

Honckenya-RBGV (talk) 23:48, 26 February 2024 (UTC)

This comment is the GOAT. Leucochrysum-RBGV (talk) 23:49, 26 February 2024 (UTC)

That is, like @Leucochrysum-RBGV says, the GOAT of all goats! Thank-you for the comment, @Honckenya-RBGV!

- Drechmeria-RBGV (talk) 00:25, 27 February 2024 (UTC)

A kitten for you!

Thank you for your fantastic Wikipedia Workshop! Looking forward to learning more.

Cyttaria-RBGV (talk) 00:35, 27 February 2024 (UTC)

I'm glad it was useful, @Cyttaria-RBGV! If you need a hand figuring things out, just let me know. - Drechmeria-RBGV (talk) 00:41, 27 February 2024 (UTC)