Dr. Ryan E.

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You may also want to read User:Ian.thomson/ChristianityAndNPOV. We at Wikipedia are highbrow (snobby), heavily biased for the academia. Tgeorgescu (talk) 12:09, 17 October 2018 (UTC)

Third Opinion

Hello, I wanted to let you know that your request for a third opinion at Ascension of Jesus has been declined due to lack of discussion. I see you have started a discussion on the talk page today; this is the correct first step. Please allow other editors time to respond and see if the issue can be resolved through discussion. ^†Basilosauridae❯❯❯Talk 06:44, 18 October 2018 (UTC)

Misunderstanding

WP:NPOV does not mean "no point of view", but a point of view upon which most WP:RS seem to agree. See WP:DUE and WP:NOTNEUTRAL. In scientific matters, NPOV means rendering the scientific consensus. In historical matters, it means rendering mainstream historical scholarship. Mind you, Bible scholarship is about history. It is not theology, wherein correctness is only in the eye of the beholder. Or, as the saying goes, orthodoxy is my doxy, heterodoxy is your doxy. Tgeorgescu (talk) 19:46, 20 October 2018 (UTC)

Satyan Devadoss

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@David Eppstein: What reliable sources are needed for a tag? Please see: [1]

WP:FOLLOWING

Hello User:Dr. Ryan E., I hope that you are doing well. I noticed that after you edited the article about the real presence, you immediately started editing the article on the impact of the 2019–20 coronavirus pandemic on religion (just after I had created it) and then today, you moved to edit the article on evangelical theology, despite never ever having touched that article before, when I edited that article only a few hours prior. I would like to assume good faith and think that this is a coincidence, but I suspect that you are following my edits. Could you kindly clarify your recent editing behaviour? If you have made a mistake, I would ask that you kindly please cease this activity and focus your efforts elsewhere. Thank you, Anupam^Talk 16:12, 24 March 2020 (UTC)

@Anupam:, I have been patient to not open a dispute resolution on the Real Presence page assuming Good Faith. However, there appears to be a bit of WP:OWN over on that page and on the the impact of the 2019–20 coronavirus pandemic on religion. You seem to keep introducing theology to the latter and claiming the structure of the "views" should separate the ordinance view. Notice I did not do a POV push here. We are NOT a Catholic encyclopedia. We must maintain a WP:NPOV. So "views" cannot separate into Real Presence and non Real Presence because groups disagree on what counts as Real Presence. So I simply titled it "Views" not preferring one or the other Dr. Ryan E. (talk) 09:50, 28 March 2020 (UTC)

Thank you for your response User:Dr. Ryan E. I have addressed your concerns on the talk page of both articles and have let most of your edits stand. In my opinion, asserting that Memorialism is a view of the Real Presence, when no Church teaches that, is unwarranted. That being said, I have no plans to revert your edit as long as you do not try to move the article, etc. However, with regard to the WP:FOLLOWING issue, I trust that you will discontinue this pattern. I hope this helps. With regards, Anupam^Talk 17:04, 28 March 2020 (UTC)

April 2020

It appears that you have been canvassing—leaving messages on a biased choice of users' talk pages to notify them of an ongoing community decision, debate, or vote—in order to influence Talk:Real presence of Christ in the Eucharist. While friendly notices are allowed, they should be limited and nonpartisan in distribution and should reflect a neutral point of view. Please do not post notices which are indiscriminately cross-posted, which espouse a certain point of view or side of a debate, or which are selectively sent only to those who are believed to hold the same opinion as you. Remember to respect Wikipedia's principle of consensus-building by allowing decisions to reflect the prevailing opinion among the community at large. Thank you. Elizium23 (talk) 00:56, 21 April 2020 (UTC)

@Elizium23: please post 1 time where I posted to a user's talk-page. Not WP:CANVASSING Cheers,Dr. Ryan E. (talk) 01:01, 21 April 2020 (UTC)

The template is boilerplate. Pinging is exactly the same thing. Elizium23 (talk) 01:02, 21 April 2020 (UTC)

@Elizium23: I don't deal with users who are constantly twisting words. Let's simply peruse that article shall we? It says:

An "Appropriate notification is...talk page of one or more directly related articles" Done!

"Notifications must be polite, neutrally worded with a neutral title, clear in presentation, and brief". Maybe I wasn't brief, I'll give you that.

"Limited posting" - yep done! I only posted it to ONE talk page AND they are all involved in Christian articles already!

"Neutral" - Yep, I pinged multiple people Christian, non-Christian, Mennonite, atheist, agnostic, skeptic, whatever so on and so forth.

"Nonpartisan" - yeah see above besides we already have POV pushers involved in the article

"Open". Well I didn't PM/DM anybody so again yeah!

NOT "Campaigning" well I didn't push a Protestant or Orthodox or Catholic POV did I?

NOT "Vote-stacking" - well I didn't base this on any userbox! I've interacted with all these editors in the past.

NOT "Stealth canvassing" frankly you have to take my word for this, but I didn't email anyone outside of the Wiki or call or text or anything.

Cheers! Dr. Ryan E. (talk) 01:11, 21 April 2020 (UTC)

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Please revisit

your edit at Psalms. Your edit summary "(→‎Themes: more scholarly, really "worst of all" ?)" objects to the previous language/expression, yet you've left the sentence in noticeably worse shape - with a typo, and not scanning even as apparently intended. Shenme (talk) 19:45, 17 June 2020 (UTC)

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