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Talk:Mayawati/GA1

Hi Dr.K., I noticed that you've made a lot of edits to Mayawati, so I thought I'd let you know that I've posted some comments on the GA review, if you're interested. Mark Arsten (talk) 14:42, 30 August 2012 (UTC)

Thank you very much Mark for the courtesy. I will check this out soon. Best regards. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 14:44, 30 August 2012 (UTC)

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Thank you very much Helen. If you need any Highbeam-related information let me know and I can locate the citations for you. Bye for now. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 17:53, 2 September 2012 (UTC)
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Thank you very much Iamunknown. How are you? I hope everything is well for you and yours. It is always very nice seeing you after such a long time. Take care. :) Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 15:49, 3 September 2012 (UTC)
Woo hoo! Enjoy HighBeam, Dr. K! It is extremely helpful(for me at least). Oh, did you know I was Iranian?? LOL. --Defensor Ursa 17:19, 3 September 2012 (UTC)
Thank you Kansas Bear. I agree, it looks like a great research tool. And no, I didn't know you were Iranian, I actually thought you were from Kansas. So much for nicknames. :) Take care. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 18:19, 3 September 2012 (UTC)

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Pc1985

The editor commented in the wrong section of the sockpuppet investigation page, but you probably should have moved his comment to the correct section rather than removing it entirely, because it was in effect an admission of guilt. --RL0919 (talk) 05:33, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

Good point, but since it was laced with personal attacks and with the duck test being so obvious, I reverted them. However I will add them back just to add to the duck soup. Thank you for the suggestion. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 06:29, 10 September 2012 (UTC)
Thanks for all of your "Randing" around, doing all of the hard work on this one. Cheers Jim1138 (talk) 07:42, 10 September 2012 (UTC)
It wasn't that hard but thank you Jim. You worked as hard, if not harder, so thank you as well. Cheers. :) Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 12:38, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

Re: Consult - My Apologies

The post was supposed to be for User:TheDarkLordSeth, I just clicked the wrong talk page link and didn't realize I'd go to the wrong user. Again, my apologies, no offense intended. --Mike Cline (talk) 02:53, 14 September 2012 (UTC)

No problem Mike. Thank you for the clarification. All in a day's work for you as a busy admin I suppose. :) Apologies for my edit summary; I should have known. Take care. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 02:58, 14 September 2012 (UTC)

Roy Orbison

Dr. K, I believe the info on the Roy Orbison page is incorrect. The last artist to have 2 albums in the top 5 at one time is Paul McCartney, May 1970 his McCartney LP and the Beatles Let it Be LP's were in the top 5 at the same week. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Johnboutet (talkcontribs) 21:46, 14 September 2012 (UTC)

Do you have a reliable reference to support your claim? Currently there is a reliable source in the article which supports another view. If you cannot find a reference to support your edit the current version must remain. References in Wikipedia are like money. You have it, your edits go places; you don't, then they are not accepted. And of course you are not allowed to print your own money, i.e. make-up your own references, they have to be from third-party, reliable sources, i.e. real money from a real bank. It is a simple system actually. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 00:02, 15 September 2012 (UTC)
(stalking) Thank you for what I think is the best analogy for WP:V that I have ever heard. :) Trusilver 00:44, 15 September 2012 (UTC)
Lol. Thank you very much Trusilver for your kind words. It is a double bonus for me; receiving praise from an editor whom I deeply respect and seeing an old friend on my talkpage after such a long time. Take care and thanks again. :) Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 00:57, 15 September 2012 (UTC)

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Dr. K-Pop

I just tore through a whole bunch of K-pop articles, trimming lists of members etc. I'm ready for a beer. Drmies (talk) 18:45, 20 September 2012 (UTC)

Nice pun. Although I'm afraid "pop"=/= "beer". So you have to settle for a 7-up, Pepsi, Coke etc. :) Let me see what I can come up with. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 20:04, 20 September 2012 (UTC)

Channel lineups in Wikipedia

I was going to ask your permission about mass deletion requests on channel lineups, like List of channels on Sky and List of Dish Network channels (United States). However, I realize the amount of channel lineups is heavy. Therefore, I've discussed this in WP:village pump (policy). I need strategies and plans first. --George Ho (talk) 09:49, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

You should follow Magog's advice on the subject and as Elen told you about Masem, you can check how his nomination of Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of AT&T U-verse channels goes to gain some experience. Then you can add your own. But go slowly in the beginning. There is no rush. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 17:18, 25 September 2012 (UTC)
I've already experieced that already until its closure. May I make a bundled AFD then? WP:articles for deletion/List of DirecTV channels (2nd nomination) resulted as "delete", and WP:articles for deletion/List of channels on Sky will be, as well. There are others in category:lists of television channels by company. --George Ho (talk) 20:22, 20 October 2012 (UTC)
If you feel confident about the process, go ahead. Let me know if any problems develop. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 20:28, 20 October 2012 (UTC)

I've created Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2nd bundle of channel lineups; I've made note about approval. --George Ho (talk) 21:05, 20 October 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know George. Good luck! Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 21:07, 20 October 2012 (UTC)

Greek language question

I agree with all your revisions to [Greek language question], except one. Details on talk page. I'm a complete WP newbie, so please be nice to me! Meanwhile, I'll bear in mind that "References in WP are like money ..." :) --SteepLearningCurve (talk) 14:16, 28 September 2012 (UTC)

I'm always nice, don't worry. Also since my money analogy is proving so popular I may have to display it more prominently somewhere. :) Thanks for the feedback. I'll see what you wrote at the talkpage. Best regards. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 14:46, 28 September 2012 (UTC)

File:Norm quote sound.ogg

Must I tag this audio file for deletion? It seems to be replaceable by one different quote. --George Ho (talk) 01:50, 29 September 2012 (UTC)

File:Hill Street Station illicit affair.jpg

This image fails WP:NFCC; may I tag it as FFD? --George Ho (talk) 01:51, 29 September 2012 (UTC)

Whoops

Didn't mean to revert you — I thought the Edit Conflict screen was my own from hitting enter twice or something, as has happened to me. That said, is no wikilinks in references something new? I've see newspaper and magazines wikilinked in references for years. --Tenebrae (talk) 20:28, 30 September 2012 (UTC)

Just checked at WP:VERIFY, WP:CITE and Help:Footnotes and couldn't offhand see any mention of wikilinks. It might very well be somewhere else that I haven't found yet, I know.--Tenebrae (talk) 20:33, 30 September 2012 (UTC)
(edit conflict) Don't worry Tenebrae. Please revert at will. You are on my editors' premium list, which gives you cart blanche to revert me at will. As far as wikilinks within references the rule is not to include them. But I am just not sure where the guideline lies. Must be in MOS somewhere. Alternatively just check an FA article or two for any signs of them inside refs. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 20:36, 30 September 2012 (UTC)
I just checked at WP:OVERLINK and it seems they are not excluded from refs. But I still think that in practice they are not added to refs in general, but I could be wrong. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 20:43, 30 September 2012 (UTC)
Hi, Doc. Thanks for going to the time and trouble to investigate. I'll take your suggestion re: FAs. And thank you, too, for the kind words. It genuinely means a lot to hear this from a peer. With warm regards, --Tenebrae (talk) 00:29, 1 October 2012 (UTC)
It is always a pleasure talking to you Tenebrae. :) Thank you for the update and your kind words. You are always welcome here. Take care. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 00:33, 1 October 2012 (UTC)

Re AGF

I never implied you were acting in bad faith, but that you're not handling this as well as possible. At no point was he welcomed, at no point has anyone attempted to summarize and explain site policies guidelines to him... All who have interacted with him so far are partly responsible for his behavior. Ian.thomson (talk) 21:25, 30 September 2012 (UTC)

Sorry but I did advise him/her. I told him that accusing editors of being members of the royal family is not allowed and explained to him NPA and AGF. I then got this reply:

So you wouldn't agree that writing about a member of one's own family in relation to controversial matters would strain objectivity? Do you jump up and down when people make blanket assumptions about communists or neo-nazis, which happens all the time, and in far less justifiable circumstances? I think you are trying to bully me.

My advice obviously was not accepted and I got rudely attacked in return. So much for trying to advise a "newbie". However he knew enough to file WP:3O in no time, showing familiarity with our policies, and alleging that his reference to the members of the royal family was in jest. His reply to me as shown above shows no sign or mention of any "jest". Meanwhile he has done this before: where he accuses other editors of being communists or right-wingers. This I saw before I advised him/her of AGF and NPA at Talk:Frederica of Hanover. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 21:35, 30 September 2012 (UTC)
Again, it's hard to take the family bit seriously. That he went to WP:3O only indicates he was looking for some sort of moderation, and is an indication that he didn't know where WP:DR is. Unless you have other evidence that he's a sockpuppet or something, we can only assume that he stumbled across the page looking for help. The other comment was before anyone tried to explain any guidelines and policies to him. At any rate, I left a fuller explanation of different policies and guidelines on his talk page (instead of a reprimand on the article talk page), so I'm leaving this. Ian.thomson (talk) 21:47, 30 September 2012 (UTC)
Fine. I have no quarrel with you Ian and I respect your opinion although I disagree. IMO the royal family mention was a WP:BLP violation even if it were intended as a joke. In addition his/her previous edit at Talk:Communist Party of Greece where s/he makes a blanket accusation that the editors are communist party members or right-wingers shows a propensity to attack other editors. Newbie indeed. On a more philosophical point, I believe that the issue is not about being a newbie or not. It is about being considerate of other people and respecting others--period. In other words, if you naturally respect people you are not ever going to make nasty, presumptuous or smart-ass comments about other people, people you don't even know, newbie or no newbie. IMO, being a newbie does not give you a free-pass, or justification, for showing disrespect for other people or throwing epithets at them. It is rather a matter of character. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 22:05, 30 September 2012 (UTC)
May I kindly request to be left out of controversies regarding the former royal family and other persons I have no knowledge of and no opinion on (see the sockpuppetry case you brought against me, alleging that I'm a sockpuppet of User:SentientContrarian and User:Bougatsa42)? I understand that you are having a disagreement with User:Bougatsa42. Please leave me out of it. I don't know who he (or she) is, I can't pass an opinion on his (or her) actions even though I have come across him (or her) on the Meligalas article. I may have agreed with him (or other persons) on one matter or two. That doesn't mean I agree with them on everything else, much less that I'm the same person as them. Also, I would like to make another request, if it's not too much: you have alleged that my opinions on my profile page are in reference and/or allusion to a certain Takis Fotopoulos. I don't know this person and can't say I'm for or against him, because I don't know what he stands for and what he does; and I don't even know what caused the controversy between his supporters and other users, neither am I interested in it. I'm not interested in controversies regarding a person whose ideas and actions I don't know at all; and I'm even less interested in being connected, especially without my knowledge, with such controversies. Additionally, I think that a look at my user contributions will help you see that what I wrote was inspired by my involvement in the Saint-Gobain article and what I read on its talk page. In a nutshell: I don't know any of the users you allege I am. From what I gather, they're either living in Greece or are Greeks living abroad. I'm not them. Please leave me out of any disagreement you might have with them. If you disagree with a certain action of mine on Wikipedia, please be so kind and talk to me about it and tell me what you think first. I don't remember coming across you in any of the numerous contributions I've made to Wikipedia and I don't remember having had any previous discussion or disagreement with you. If you disagree with something I've done or you think I did something wrong, please let me know and please, leave me out of any disagreements you may have with other Wikipedians, especially on issues and articles about which I know nothing about and have no opinion on. Thank you very much. Moderatelyaverage (talk) 20:33, 1 October 2012 (UTC)
I wish it were that easy. But now the situation is out of my hands, until this investigation concludes and the CU checks the data. I added a question for you at the SPI page. Regardless, I am sorry it turned out this way. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 20:51, 1 October 2012 (UTC)
Your apology came too late. I'm not sure you handled this issue properly. You could have contacted me and asked where I stand. You didn't. What you did was involve me in a case that I'm not interested in, simply because there was a disagreement between you and another Wikipedian, whom I don't know at all. And again: I don't know who Takis Fotopoulos is. Only today did I hear about him and it was because of the sockpuppetry case you brought. Moderatelyaverage (talk) 20:55, 1 October 2012 (UTC)
I have nothing to apologise for. Opening a sockpuppet investigation is not something that you need to apologise for because if there is disruptive editing there must be an investigation. The checkuser then determines if the allegations are correct or not. I just saw that you were uncomfortable and I sympathised with that. Ergo my saying sorry. I never met you before, I just met your edits and they led me to this investigation. That doesn't mean I am insensitive to your plight. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 21:02, 1 October 2012 (UTC)
Until today, I was minding my own business, happily correcting typos and syntax errors (like every copyeditor does) while idly surfing where curiosity led me, as well as contributing in the Golden Dawn (Greece) article, assisting (and learning from) User:RJFF and other, more seasoned wikipedians. Now, it is an investigation instigated by you because of a disagreement you had with someone else that has caused me this plight. OK now. Let's assume that the CU determines one of the IP addresses I might have used shares some digits with offending users I have no relationship or affiliation with. Then what? Oh, not to mention that you came across my edits, but never bothered to come to my talk page and ask me about them. Did you see that userbox on my page? It says "This user tries to do the right thing. If they make a mistake, please let them know." Did you leave me any feedback? No. Did you tell me about your concerns? No. I'm going to put this reply of mine on the investigation page's comments, just for the record. Moderatelyaverage (talk) 21:11, 1 October 2012 (UTC)
I don't think you understand how this thing works. Contrary to what you say I opened this SPI investigation because of the overlapping edits between the three accounts, not as you falsely accuse me, out of any disagreement I had with one of the accounts. Don't forget, noone likes to be proven wrong. Therefore if I had the slightest doubt that any of the accounts under investigation was incorrectly connected I would not have proposed it. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 21:20, 1 October 2012 (UTC)
Exactly. You assumed that the accounts are connected in some way. I don't know what your exchange with Bougatsa42 was. My complaint is that you didn't contact me first. You shot first and now you ask questions. 21:29, 1 October 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Moderatelyaverage (talkcontribs)
Please stop misreading my comments. I am not asking any questions. The investigation is now in the hands of the admins. The SPI started and proceeded exactly as every other SPI and now it is awaiting administration and checkuser results. That's all. I would therefore ask you to stop these annoying messages here which serve no purpose. Thank you. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 21:36, 1 October 2012 (UTC)

Chiapas Conflict

I used the pages from Spanish Wikipedia articles that are more developed: there are pages for a different number of clashes during the Conflict with a different number of causalities for parts: i've looked the different pages and counted what reported there. Being spanish the primary language of mexico and being the spanish wiki about Chiapas more detailed, i was thinking that what reported there was more correct. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Reditalianwolf (talkcontribs) 09:11, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

You must have references. Other Wikipedias are not valid sources. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 17:06, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

Sigh

Sounds like you are at the end of your rope with anon IP 108 over at the Xenophon article. Don't fret, I made the mistake of engaging with this user on the user talk page and it's clear that s/he appears to have an overinflated view of his/her own abilities, talents, education and importance, possibly bordering on the inaccurate, though I won't guess about motive, using what little AGF I still have. I won't speculate further, but it seems that WP:DFTT is probably the best approach. Hang in there! Montanabw(talk) 04:51, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

The less this is talked about the better it is. I'm not sure, for once, what acronym applies here but even if I knew it I wouldn't want to reveal it. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 07:25, 7 October 2012 (UTC)
One I can think of is LOL. You are probably right. Montanabw(talk) 16:27, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

Nice description

Martin Wolf describes the ECB as a "reincarnated Bundesbank". ColaXtra (talk) 23:45, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

Thank you Cola. No surprises here. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 04:09, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

Talk:tyfrazier

i made changes to the talk section of ethnicity of Barack Obama as you have suggested, thanks for the suggestion on how to proceed http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Family_of_Barack_Obama — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tyfrazier (talkcontribs) 19:32, 13 October 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for your message. I already replied there. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 23:25, 13 October 2012 (UTC)

Genocides in history

Genocides in history. Urgh, some guy, maybe a noob, doesn't seem to understand that he needs a source that describes it as genocide. I'm at 3RR, can you undo him? He's at 3RR now too, and I can report him if he persists further. ColaXtra (talk) 01:39, 21 October 2012 (UTC)

Done. I also gave him a 3RR warning. You need it if you have to make a 3RR report. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 02:11, 21 October 2012 (UTC)
Awesome, thanks old bean. Hugs and kisses! ColaXtra (talk) 15:43, 21 October 2012 (UTC)
What have I done to deserve that? :) You are welcome by the way. Best regards. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 00:32, 22 October 2012 (UTC)
Odd. You have never struck me as old, much less a bean! :-O --Kansas Bear (talk) 02:55, 22 October 2012 (UTC)
Thank you for the compliment Kansas Bear. Cola, hopefully, means the time I've bean (pun/typo intended) around here. :) Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 03:26, 22 October 2012 (UTC)
Correct! It is merely English affection! I would reach out and give you a fuss, fluffy creature from Kansas, but typing one-handed is so cumbersome. ColaXtra (talk) 18:50, 22 October 2012 (UTC)
No, don't bother Cola. I think the beans are enough. No need to expand to teddy bears. Lol. :) Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 19:17, 22 October 2012 (UTC)

Sorry, any chance with some help at this article again? I feel sure I will get to 3RR, so will need someone to do the last revert again. S/he seems to be pro-Soviet, a lot of big deletions on that section. The sock—and they are such an obvious sock it's ridiculous—makes some fair points, but socks don't get to edit1. ColaXtra (talk) 22:14, 26 October 2012 (UTC)

Forget it: it's all good. ColaXtra (talk) 22:44, 26 October 2012 (UTC)
Ok. Thanks Cola. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 23:46, 26 October 2012 (UTC)

Nominate more for deletion?

I have Template:List of Astro Channels and File:Hill Street Station illicit affair.jpg as non-articles. Must I nominated them as XFD now? --George Ho (talk) 04:19, 22 October 2012 (UTC)

Not sure about that. Why the template? What is the problem of the nonfree picture? Not enough commentary? Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 03:43, 23 October 2012 (UTC)
The template might violate WP:NOTDIR; in fact, there is no such thing as Template:List of DirecTV channels. As for the image, I wonder if more commentary or another image is needed, as I could not see the female lead. I bet you haven't read Hill Street Station. --George Ho (talk) 04:27, 23 October 2012 (UTC)
Given your explanation I'm ok with the XfD of the template. And you're right. I haven't got a clue about Hill Street Station. :) In that case try deleting the picture as well. --Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 04:34, 23 October 2012 (UTC)

Here you go: Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2012 October 23. As for the image, if the newer version that I will upload soon (or have already uploaded) does not improve quality, then FFD for that image then? --George Ho (talk) 05:07, 23 October 2012 (UTC)

For the image, I am not sure. Why are you trying to upload a replacement if the existing is slated for FFD? Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 23:52, 23 October 2012 (UTC)
The new version shows faces of male lead and female lead; I did that in the image page. --George Ho (talk) 01:10, 24 October 2012 (UTC)
I uploaded an exposure-corrected version. Is that better? Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 01:30, 24 October 2012 (UTC)
Well... exposure is all right. More importantly, to you, does the newer version pass all criteria of WP:NFCC? --George Ho (talk) 01:38, 24 October 2012 (UTC)
Not sure if there is enough commentary. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 01:40, 24 October 2012 (UTC)

Masem said that any version doesn't make any difference and that text is already understandable without images. May I nominate now for deletion? --George Ho (talk) 18:42, 26 October 2012 (UTC)

Yes. Makes sense to me. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 21:34, 26 October 2012 (UTC)

RFPP archive bot

FYI - I've started a discussion at Wikipedia talk:Requests for page protection#Bot archiving that you might be interested in contributing to. Thanks. ‑Scottywong| chat _ 23:13, 23 October 2012 (UTC)

Thank you Scotty. I'll check it out. Take care. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 23:15, 23 October 2012 (UTC)

K-pop

Giving your "interest" in K-pop-related-articles, you may want to look at this: Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard#Talk:Kim Hyun-a#Title. (Look at it, cause I think there won't be many administrators who read it.) --Moscow Connection (talk) 10:30, 25 October 2012 (UTC)

I removed Anti-Turkism in List of Turkish diplomats assassinated by Armenian Terrorist Organisations. But you added here. I say it. Esc2003 (talk) 04:34, 31 October 2012 (UTC)
Oops. I didn't see your action. At least I fixed it. Thanks for that and sorry for the misunderstanding. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 04:38, 31 October 2012 (UTC)

Edit warring

Do you realize you were edit warring too on Greece and could have been blocked as well? Toddst1 (talk) 00:30, 6 November 2012 (UTC)

Have you seen WP:ARBMAC? Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 00:32, 6 November 2012 (UTC)
Indeed. I've issued a large number of the blocks logged there. It appears your answer to my question is no. Toddst1 (talk) 00:40, 6 November 2012 (UTC)
So you mean it is acceptable :
  1. To use the name FYROM in articles despite the Arbcom decision to the contrary.
  2. Issue warnings for performing arbcom-decision abiding edits to editors even after two reverts. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 00:44, 6 November 2012 (UTC)
No, I don't. I mean what I said. Toddst1 (talk) 00:51, 6 November 2012 (UTC)
If you don't think items 1 and 2 are acceptable then you should not have issued your warning to me. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 00:54, 6 November 2012 (UTC)

Rollbacker revoked

Given that you're defending your misuse of Rollback in an ARBMAC-related edit war in discussions here and on my talk page, I've revoked the privilege. Toddst1 (talk) 00:50, 6 November 2012 (UTC)

You still have not answered my questions above. As for the rollback I only used it once. The other two times were via TW and one was (Reverted good faith edits by Kupraios (talk) under AGF. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 00:52, 6 November 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Special Barnstar
Greetings from Dianna! I am gratified to see that your Rollback privilege has now been restored. I hope this incident does not deter you from valiantly contributing in contentious areas of the wiki. Best wishes, Dianna (talk) 15:24, 6 November 2012 (UTC)
Thank you very much Dianna. My appreciation for this barnstar is directly proportional to my esteem for you. Needless to say, it is exceptionally high. Thank you very much for your kind message. Take care. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 16:47, 6 November 2012 (UTC)
I agree with Diannaa, I am glad it was restored; the removal was heavy-handed. Keep your chin up and avoid the land mines. Cheers, Kierzek (talk) 19:12, 6 November 2012 (UTC)
Well, this is turning to be not such a bad day after all. Two of the best editors I have met on this project leaving me such nice messages. :) It definitely helps keep things in perspective for me. Thank you very much Kierzek, nice to see you here after such a long time. Take care. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 19:22, 6 November 2012 (UTC)

Not me

Just want to make sure that you realize that the editor calling for your block (which I think is ridiculous) is Toddy1 (talk · contribs) not me. Toddst1 (talk) 22:22, 6 November 2012 (UTC)

Thank you very much Toddst1, but there is absolutely no reason why I would have thought that, especially from a good-faith user like you and an admin at that. I actually self-reverted my more serious reply to Toddy1 and replaced it with thanks, because I am 99.9% sure it was meant as a joke. :) Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 22:29, 6 November 2012 (UTC)
Well, it was not a joke. But I am not going to reply to a troll. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 22:40, 6 November 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Judith Donath

The DYK project (nominate) 00:03, 15 November 2012 (UTC)

DYK question

Hi, Dr. K.! A little while ago, I had the honor of reviewing your DYK nomination for Judith Donath, an excellent article. A couple of weeks ago, I added a nomination for an article of mine -- Template:Did you know nominations/The Book of Lights -- which no one has reviewed yet. If you have the time, would you consider reviewing it? I think the article is in pretty good shape, and wouldn't take much of your time. (Although, of course, I would make any changes you recommend.) Thanks! NearTheZoo (talk) 12:18, 15 November 2012 (UTC)

Thank you very much NearTheZoo for your kind comments. I will also have the honour of reviewing your article in return, a bit later today. :) No problem at all. Take care. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 13:08, 15 November 2012 (UTC)
Thanks, Dr. K! Just saw that you not only reviewed it, but approved it! Thanks very, very much. A pleasure to work with you! NearTheZoo (talk) 16:26, 15 November 2012 (UTC)
Don't mention it NearTheZoo. It was a pleasure reviewing your interesting and well written article about that spiritual journey. It was very nice meeting you. All the best. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 16:38, 15 November 2012 (UTC)

Mayawati

Dr K, I apologize for not substantiating my statements with enough reference sources. I am in the process of doing so in each of the cases. Whatever I have said might look controversial to you but they are based on enough references from well-respected places, which I shall be doing now. a2ztruthgod

Talkback

Hello, Dr.K.. You have new messages at Seric2's talk page.
You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.
Seric2 (talk) 13:57, 28 November 2012 (UTC)

And a barnstar for you too!

The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar
For your friendship, advice and continued support Seric2 (talk) 23:33, 1 December 2012 (UTC)
Thank you very much Seric. It is very kind of you. Take care. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 23:51, 1 December 2012 (UTC)

Era changes

I've added a correction to a talk page message of yours about era changes. WP:ERA doesn't mention strong ties, it says "Do not change the established era style in an article unless there are reasons specific to its content. Seek consensus on the talk page before making the change. Open the discussion under a subhead that uses the word "era". Briefly state why the style is inappropriate for the article in question. A personal or categorical preference for one era style over the other is not justification for making a change." And "Do not use CE or AD unless the date or century would be ambiguous without it". Dougweller (talk) 06:10, 4 December 2012 (UTC)

I was just following the {{uw-date}} template the standard warning for unnecessarily changing date formats. Perhaps it is time to change it so it doesn't mention "strong national ties". Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 06:19, 4 December 2012 (UTC)

Era

Would it be better/easier if I just delete BC/AD altogether, or would it mislead the reader? It looks like nobody really checks the talk page on certain wiki pages. Lupus Bellator (talk) 07:02, 4 December 2012 (UTC)

No. It may seem people don't watch pages but it may not be true. For instance Your change on Hadrian was reverted a few hours after you made it and for the same reason: WP:ERA. Also since you intent to do this on a large scale it definitely needs discussion at the talkpages of the articles. And you should leave each discusion ample time for people to participate as you were told at your talkpage of about a week minimum. And people do watch these pages: Trajan is watched by 87 editors for example. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 13:14, 4 December 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Defender of the Wiki Barnstar
Thanks. Drmies (talk) 15:57, 4 December 2012 (UTC)
Thank you very much Drmies for this honour. Although you provided the inspiration. And a very nice barnstar too, from an editor I really respect. I also don't have it in my collection and I am sure it will make a nice addition. :) Take care and all the best to you. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 16:23, 4 December 2012 (UTC)

Greek Cypriot evictions

23x2 has argued that the Greeks fled, rather than being evicted, which was unexpected. If you ever find a source discussing specific incidents of eviction, say an interview with someone who was removed from their house, I'd like to see it (although it'd have to be an English source). Personal curiosity, as all these sources must be taking the info from somewhere. Regards, CMD (talk) 21:31, 5 December 2012 (UTC)

Hi CMD. In addition to "eviction", many sources also talk about "expulsion", others about "deportation" etc. and others about "mass evictions" so these forcible removals on a large scale are well sourced. I am not sure why there have been additional arguments, other than semantics. There have also been individual cases of forcible evictions going to international bodies and getting judgments against Turkey, these are well known. Also in some of the sources I left at the talkpage of the article there is mention of forcible evictions by Turkish troops. However if I find any press interviews I'll let you know. Best. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 21:47, 5 December 2012 (UTC)

Beast (South Korean band)

Hey Doc, always please give at least one warning, of a level of your own choosing--you never know when it might come in handy (at AIV or other places). Then again, I think South Korea's biggest export, after K-pop, is socks. Happy days, Drmies (talk) 06:48, 8 December 2012 (UTC)

Hi Doc. Sorry for the misunderstanding but due to the high frequency of these events I have devised a system which saves me from carpet-bombing the place with semi-automated warnings. To wit: I filter out the one-off IPs, i.e. those IPs who do it only once. In lieu of a warning I check the IP origin for socking activity and I tag it appropriately when it is of a certain origin. Same goes for newly-created SPA named accounts. If they add the positions only once they may not get a warning but if they repeat the behaviour that's when the warnings come in. If, despite the warnings, they insist on adding the info, AIV is informed and an SPI may be opened if the evidence is strong enough. So the surveillance system is on, but the warning system is filtered for a more elegant, less taxing on resources but no less effective operation. Take care and Best of the Season to you. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 16:32, 8 December 2012 (UTC)
That's almost as complicated as following an episode of Burn Notice. I'm glad you got it under control, though. Thanks, and keep fighting the good fight, Drmies (talk) 04:50, 9 December 2012 (UTC)
Burn Notice? Lol. Touché. At least your delivery was flawless as usual. That also makes fighting the good fight fun, at least when I am dealing with you. :) Thanks for that. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 05:37, 9 December 2012 (UTC)
Yeah, I don't know why I like that show but I do--and it all started because they made such good fun of it on SNL. I think I like the voice-over narration and the aerial shots of Miami, and the McGyverness of it. Hey, check out Kenzie (songwriter) and Chocolat (band) and the related note on my talk page. The beat goes on. Drmies (talk) 14:46, 14 December 2012 (UTC)
I didn't know about the show until you mentioned it to me and I saw its local article. I then realised that my method of tag control might have reached a level of complexity as high as the plot of the series. It was an aha moment. :) Anyway, I saw your cleanup of Chocolat and some of the related comments of a user on your talk. I obviously agree with your cleanup and the reasons behind it, but given my experience with the relentless edit-warring and socking associated with these articles I am not optimistic it will be unchallenged. And don't forget that my cleanup was simply focused on the absurd and unsourced position/DOB etc. tables and was not nearly as ambitious as your cleanup. Yet the resistance I met in terms of socking and edit-warring has been very high. I can only imagine what the reaction to your edits will be, given the scope of your changes. I commend you for at least daring to try and for helping out in such a notoriously difficult area as these articles represent. I'll keep an eye on the developments. Take care. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 01:43, 15 December 2012 (UTC)
You know, in that overcensored and oversexed industry, where everything is pre-tested in focus groups and ready-made for quick consumption but clean enough for prime-time television, the terminology of "positions" is really quite funny. Especially this maknae--youngest member but with extraordinary importance, like some sort of polar opposite of barrel duty (which probably needs an article). No, I'm not optimistic either, and I do wonder what the point of it is. Many "content" editors don't bother with this shit at all, but I find it so embarrassing to see these huge articles filled with trip, esp. after discovering that a frigging apocryphal gospel like Apocalypse of Thomas is an unverified stub. Happy days Dr. K., Drmies (talk) 03:21, 15 December 2012 (UTC)
Just forget it. It is a completely formulaic, assembly-line type of star production. Indistinguishable from any other manufactured product line. It even comes with its own in-universe jargon like "Maknae", "lead/main/sub-rappers", dancers etc. as if they are describing robotic tasks performed by automatons. It is an encyclopaedic nightmare. That few regular editors want to deal with this line of articles makes the problems faced in this area more difficult to solve. Perhaps an implementation of permanent pending revision protection across all of these articles may be necessary. But this needs a centralised approach to the problem and I don't see it coming any time soon. Anyway, Happy days to you too Drmies. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 05:15, 15 December 2012 (UTC)

Sock targets

Let me know the main targets of the socks and I'll protect them for a long term, try to get them to lose interest. They'll have to at least create new accounts and get autoconfirmed, so more work to do for Mr. Sock as well. Dreadstar 05:42, 20 December 2012 (UTC)

I agree. :) Sounds like a great plan. Thank you very much for trying to help in solving this chronic and intractable problem. I will check to see which other articles are most frequently hit by the socks and I'll let you know. Thank you also for already protecting many of the target articles. It is the first time an admin has taken large-scale, cohesive action in that regard and it is much appreciated and badly needed. Take care. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 06:03, 20 December 2012 (UTC)

Greek in Albania

The Notes are from 1980 Census. Today (2012) we have 3% Greeks in Albania not 6%.

There are other references from the 2000s, 2007, 2008 which say otherwise. Anyway this belongs at the talk of the article not here. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 22:35, 22 December 2012 (UTC)

DYK

Thank you so much for your contributions! I hope all the requirements for the DYK has been fulfilled. Proudbolsahye (talk) 03:40, 26 December 2012 (UTC)

Thank you and you are very welcome. I made some additional comments on your talk. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 03:52, 26 December 2012 (UTC)

Jessica Lange page

Why are you reverting my edits when what I've contributed is what is clearly being asked for, i.e. references and additional information? Sister Jude Martin (talk) 06:26, 26 December 2012 (UTC)

Please participate at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/MarkAlexisGabriel. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 06:30, 26 December 2012 (UTC)

You're truly pathetic. lol. Sister Jude Martin (talk) 06:42, 26 December 2012 (UTC)

Alexis, please let's keep this simple. You put your ducks in the wrong row. Don't blame me for doing my job. In any case I am definitely not a "Streeper". I actually like Jessica better. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 06:49, 26 December 2012 (UTC)
Dime - not "dime-a-dick" but *dime*, porque? Porque me molestas y borras mi trabajo? Why? Sister Jude Martin (talk) 07:07, 26 December 2012 (UTC)
No habla Espanol I'm afraid. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 07:10, 26 December 2012 (UTC)

Finally! You're talking to me like a normal human being. Now, tell me, what exactly am I doing wrong with my edits? I've left most of the edits that have been made to this page despite my preferences. I've only added references where citations were needed and fleshed out the page a bit using the information I found in some of the new articles I've provided links for. What. is. the. problem? IP for Sister Jude Martin-> 76.109.97.68 (talk) 07:01, 26 December 2012 (UTC)

Ok. If you are willing to change then do the following so that we can break the sock-SPI-block-sock etc. cycle. Ask for an unblock from the main MarkAlexisGabriel account promising that you are not going to continue using socks to edit-war your preferred edits into the article. We can then take it from there. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 07:07, 26 December 2012 (UTC)
I don't have an account by that name. The only active Wiki account I have is this one. Please don't revert my edits. It was hard work and, being a fan (yes, I admit it), I think my edits improve the page without compromising the encyclopedic nature of the entry. 76.109.97.68 (talk) 07:12, 26 December 2012 (UTC)
I gave you the best advice I could. It is up to you now to follow it. In any case Best of the Season to you. You may be a WP:DUCK but you seem like an otherwise nice person. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 07:21, 26 December 2012 (UTC)
lol. Why haven't you addressed the main issue: whether or not my edits are counter-productive to the encyclopedic integrity of the page? You haven't done this yet. I'd understand if I were making edits that were contrary to the rules and guidelines, but I'm not! I'm provided references that have been asked for by "citation needed" flags, for goddsakes! :sigh: I hope you respond. Quack-quack. 76.109.97.68 (talk) 07:28, 26 December 2012 (UTC)

Cyprus

Since the article has been protected indefenitely and the arguments for splitting it are completely baseless, shouldn't the split notice be removed? Can you ask an admin to do it as you are a more experienced user? Thanks 94.46.15.18 (talk) 19:41, 26 December 2012 (UTC)

You are right. It is just another round of the same old tendentious and POV arguments. I don't think this will go anywhere in exactly the same way it got rejected before and it will be closed soon enough on its own. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 19:56, 26 December 2012 (UTC)
Another thing that worths notice is an article recently created called Bloody Christmas which appears to be very biased and by searching the sources through online resources it looks like the content of the article doesn't exactly comply with what's writen in the sources. In addition, I think it should be part of the Cypriot intercommunal violence as this is what it is about. It just states a single incidence of the intercommunal violence. Sorry for being annoying, this is the last post...

Thanks 94.46.15.18 (talk) 20:00, 26 December 2012 (UTC)

I wouldn't be surprised if the new article you mentioned is just another WP:POVFORK. I'll check into that, just give me some time. And far from being annoying you are always very welcome on my talk. Thank you for your excellent comments on these issues. Best of the Season to you. Take care. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 20:05, 26 December 2012 (UTC)

Discussion at AN3

There is a discussion at WP:AN3 about HPotato's edits to Marseille. Mathsci (talk) 20:13, 31 December 2012 (UTC)

Thank you Mathsci. I will attend. Happy New Year by the way. :) Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 21:25, 31 December 2012 (UTC)

Agia triada

thank you for your contributions for Agia Triada. If there is any way you can add more details to the article that will be great. The article is up for DYK and needs at least 1,500 characters. Its at borderline level and Im worried more information might be deleted. Proudbolsahye (talk) 22:09, 4 January 2013 (UTC)

Hi Proudbolsahye. Thank you for your kind message. I'll look into this and try to help out. Take care. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 22:17, 4 January 2013 (UTC)
I found a neat website we can definitely use to expand the Greek church of Turkey articles on wikipedia. http://www.atlantaserbs.com/learnmore/monasteries_and_towns/Greek-Ort-Constantinople.htm Proudbolsahye (talk) 21:06, 6 January 2013 (UTC)
Thank you Proudbolsahye. I'll have a look. Also if you have any specific article in mind please let me know. All the best. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 04:00, 7 January 2013 (UTC)

Your edit-warring complaint

Hello Dr.K. Please see the result of Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring#User:Maurice07 reported by User:Dr.K. (Result: Sending to WP:AE). I personally think that sanctions under ARBMAC might be considered, if someone refiles the report at WP:Arbitration enforcement. You need not repeat all the information; a link to the evidence may suffice. EdJohnston (talk) 04:09, 10 January 2013 (UTC)

Thank you very much Ed for the courtesy. I replied at 3RRN. Take care. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 04:36, 10 January 2013 (UTC)
See also a response by Maurice07 at the noticeboard. EdJohnston (talk) 02:00, 11 January 2013 (UTC)
Thank you Ed. I saw that. This is a non-response. He has not made the commitment you asked of him. He is blaming others as usual and uses personal attacks. He is also continuing his edit-warring on Xanthi and Languages of Europe. I think that a block is needed asap to stop the disruption. I will also be filing an AE report. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 02:07, 11 January 2013 (UTC)