Dominique Fournier

Miles Dempsey

Replies to your comments on my Talk page:

• Although I'm not particularly interested in things military, I nonetheless try to add bits of information on pages that deal with this topic when I come across them. I agree with the fact that the etymology of his family name says nothing at all about the person; but I fail to see how this is more or less relevant than stating that he "was a direct descendant of the O'Dempseys of Clanmalier, an aristocratic Gaelic family with a history traceable to a High King of Ireland in the second century A.D." (not to mention his 17^th century ancestor). After all, Ó Díomasaigh was the real name of the family, and I think one should rather talk about "the Ó Díomasaighs of Clanmalier" than "the O'Dempseys", a late Anglicized name, if his ancestry has to be mentioned. And given that, I don't consider it irrelevant to explain here, for those who might be interested but who don't know Irish, the meaning of such a name.

The article is about the man, not his family or the origins of his name. Brief statements about his ancestry are relevant; going into the derivation of what is a fairly common name is not.

• I also fail to understand the change about the information concerning the district of Caen where the street is : saying "linked with the war" seems a bit vague to me : which war ?

The war you mentioned earlier in the sentence!

Not the war in general (haha), anyway. The town-planners and the city council were careful about not limiting name-giving in this area to WWII personalities, but including references to peace and the making of Europe.

Which is wholly irrelevant to Miles Dempsey.

You may not be fond of the latter personnally, but suppressing this "non military" information garbles the context in which the name was given. In other words, there is life outside the army (surprisingly enough) :o) !

Which is wholly irrelevant to Miles Dempsey. The whole reference to street-naming could come out entirely, but if it stays it must be limited to information relevant to a reader of an article on Miles Dempsey. It should also be supported by appropriate inline citations.

I am reposting these discussions on the article's Talk page. Cyclopaedic (talk) 10:21, 7 November 2009 (UTC)