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Dracula

Hey! I just wanted to say I reverted most of your edits on the article per the sources available. You mention a 1993 DVD (?) for your source, but The film was only released on VHS by that time, can you tell me some specifics? I've removed the Spanish-language part of the lead, as I feel the second paragraph in the lead explains the Spanish-language situation a bit better for unfamiliar readers. Thoughts? Andrzejbanas (talk) 03:18, 5 April 2023 (UTC)

Sure! After I submitted that edit note, I realized that I typo'd the date on the DVD. I just have a regular DVD copy from the year the DVD release was made (or, presumably, a re-release of that same content from a later year)--I can double-check the date on the box later.

There is possibly a deeper issue that I don't know how to deal with: I have no way to verify that the cast title card of the DVD is equivalent (ie, has the character name "Drácula" spelled the same way) to the title card of the original theatrical release of the spanish-language Dracula. In fact, the copyright notice is on that card, and that's when I noticed the copyright notice was from the '90s instead of the '30s, in the first place. I don't know how relevant that is, or how worried I should be about it. I wouldn't want to contribute to revisionist history about how to spell spanish Dracula's name, but if his name really has had an accent mark in it the whole time, it would be good to include that detail on the page. The sources are mixed about this, and I don't think any make definitive statements on the matter. It's very common for English language sources to simply drop accent marks out of names for typographical convenience; similarly, it would be quite possible for someone with a familiarity with the Spanish language to simply add an accent mark to the appropriate place once they had heard the pronunciation of "Dracula" in the film; so I don't think either the sources with or without accents in Dracula's name are definitive proof of anything. But the DVD having an accent on Drácula's name is pretty suggestive.

A similar worry also applies to other character names, although less so... I find it difficult to believe that the film would in dialogue refer to a character as "Lucía Westron", as this film does, but refer to her character name officially as "Lucy Westerna" on a title card or elsewhere; I find it far more likely that when and if a secondary source refers to this character as "Lucy Westerna", they are speaking metonymically, as Lucía Westron is based on Lucy Westenra.

Regarding the title of the film, however, I think it's pretty clear in any case that the lede should include ", also called Drácula,", because a fair number of the sources already cited on the page use that title, and Wikipedia usually lists not only the most common or official title for something but also any other common names for it.

Moving about the qualification / explanation of Spanish-language is fine by me; I thought perhaps it should be in the first sentence because it's one of the features that most usefully distinguishes it from the other Dracula film of the same year, but I don't have very strong feelings about it.

Those are all my thoughts, of both immediate and questionable usefulness :). Perhaps I should have put these on the page's talk page. I would be happy to hear any thoughts you have on these subjects, as well. Dingolover6969 (talk) 03:59, 5 April 2023 (UTC)

@Andrzejbanas: Checking now, I find that my DVD box ("Universal Studios Classic Monster Collection: Dracula", online listings available on Amazon and DVDs 'n such) lists copyright 1931, 1999. The opening title card ('Carl Laemmle presenta "Dracula"', etc) lists a copyright of 1992. (The copyright text doesn't flicker slightly like the main text, and is in a different font, suggesting it's been superimposed on the original title card—although, we already knew this.) Presumably the 1992 copyright is from the 1992, which was used for the VHS version and later this DVD version, and the 1999 copyright is for the DVD release itself. Hope that clears that up! Dingolover6969 (talk) 05:15, 6 April 2023 (UTC)

Code2000 update

James Kass requested update even further, and you still do not know it:

HOWTO: https://www.code2001.com/Code2000_Wikipedia_update.txt

REQUEST: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Code2000&oldid=1055684985#Updated_information

Please fulfill his request on this editprotected page, thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.26.156.111 (talk) 07:58, 12 April 2023 (UTC)

Well, thanks for bringing this to my attention. However, I am not involved involved enough with the page's unique history and context to feel able to resolve the situation confidently. Good luck! Dingolover6969 (talk) 10:16, 12 April 2023 (UTC)

Perhaps the best way for James to make information available to Wikipedia would be to talk to some publications, such as, uh, typography and computing magazines(?), which could then publish the information, which Wikipedia could then cite. Dingolover6969 (talk) 10:21, 12 April 2023 (UTC)

Sorry, but you placed in Code2000 fake link to fake impostor website, while real homepage of James is here: https://www.code2001.com Please fix these lies, ASAP! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.26.156.111 (talk) 11:57, 12 April 2023 (UTC)

Look, fonts are developed through end of 2022 year, even into having NEW Code2003 font in its family: https://www.code2001.com/#dn And now Wikipedia still cites some fraudster. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.26.156.111 (talk) 12:05, 12 April 2023 (UTC)

Hmm, you know, yeah, I should do something about that. I will do so in a while. Dingolover6969 (talk) 19:17, 12 April 2023 (UTC)

Even if all other wikis Wikidata:Q1105549 already updated their Code2000 articles, leading English wiki still is obsolete in regard to it. How long will take this "while" in article link update? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.26.156.111 (talk) 08:27, 13 April 2023 (UTC)

Oh, probably a couple days so I can cross-reference the sites and see what's up. I should be done in no more than a week, if I figure out what to do at all. I've removed the reference to the imposter current code2000.net to tide you over ;) Dingolover6969 (talk) 09:47, 13 April 2023 (UTC)

Yeah, ok, I put in a link to code2001.com because it's a good website, and removed the link to code2000.net because it's a bad website, but I didn't do any of the other proposed changes mostly because I can't vet the information about fonts (ie, presumably the font file itself is a fine source about whether it supports, say Balinese script, but it would be painstaking for me personally to verify this). I decided this almost immediately, but waited to see if I changed my mind about it—I have not. Dingolover6969 (talk) 09:14, 27 April 2023 (UTC)

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