User talk:Deavenger/Archive 1

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Greetings!

Welcome to wikipedia:-) I hope you enjoy your time here, and help build up a high quality encyclopedia. I have noticed your question at the help desk, and have answered it for you. In the future if you need any help feel free to ask me on my talk page if you would like:-) Happy editing!--SJP (talk) 06:45, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

NAFTA

Let me know what you think about this. AlexCovarrubias ^{( Talk? )} 20:28, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

This user supports NAFTA.

IP Trouble

Hey Deavanger, as to your IP nuisance, as far as I know there is no set process for blocking an IP, though I imagine there would be. Blocking IP addresses is the same as blocking users. The simplest way is to:

1. Go to an admin, preferably one who is involved with a project that Punjab Police falls under.

2. Show them what the IP has done

3. Ask them nicely to block this troublemaker

That's how I've gotten IPs blocked before. Thank you very much for coming to me about your problem. If you have any other dilemmas like this please let me know and I'll help as much as I can. I've already found a couple of anti-vandalism admins to help and hopefully block the user: Necrothesp and SGGH. Good luck. --Hobie (talk) 18:47, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

Millions

As I said, poverty is relative. If you look at the global line of poverty, then only about a fifth to a third of India's population is in poverty, but if you look at poverty as it is in the west, then almost everybody is in poverty. Besides that Yale source has nothing to do about India's status as a superpower.Swedish pirate (talk) 05:14, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

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Sock

Thanks for letting me know. I agree it's getting to be a nuisance when editors try to push their POV but at least they've stopped edit warring recently. I'll look into the issue and work with you and Hobie to resolve the situation. Nirvana888 (talk) 03:39, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

User:Goingoveredge

Thanks Deavenger. I'm all for considering new reliable sources and differing views. But the section should still be kept neutral and edit warring certainly didn't help his case. That said, asking him to use the Talk page has not helped so far as he continues to pushing his POV. Hopefully, it won't get out of hand. Do me a favor and keep an eye on it. Nirvana888 (talk) 23:36, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

I'm checking his sources too. His first source does not talk about India as a future superpower. I did a search for the term and it was mainly discussing how India should orient itself towards the other superpowers. Nirvana888 (talk) 23:52, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

Hmm, I don't know what to do with him. So far we've been pretty strict with including sources that directly discuss a nation's potential to be a superpower. His sources are mainly OR or argue for special cases such as potential "economic superpower" or "superpower rival" in the Indian Ocean. What do you think about this? Nirvana888 (talk) 23:58, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

I'm reporting you and Deavenger for joint 3rr edit-warring.Goingoveredge (talk) 00:30, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

You might want to have a look at this Deavenger: Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/3RR#Nirvana888_and_Deavenger_reported_by_Goingoveredge_.28Result:_.29 Nirvana888 (talk) 01:47, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

I'll put in a few comments... damn, I was hoping this wouldn't happen. Master of Puppets _{Call me MoP! :)} 02:47, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

Heh, his tag is fairly fitting, and appropriate I guess. Increasingly I'm beginning to think that this will not end in his favour though (too much namecalling being thrown around, for starters). Master of Puppets _{Call me MoP! :)} 04:02, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

Potential superpowers

Hi Deavenger, I think I will go through the article and clean up sources that do not direct discuss a candidate's potential for superpower status. I've been meaning to do this for a while but haven't had time. How is the research on the other sections going for you? Nirvana888 (talk) 02:24, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

Take your time. I definitely appreciate the effort and am sure your research will be great. I like the two journal articles that you've compiled on your user page about Russia. In particular, the one from the Russian journal discusses not only Russia but other powers' potential as superpowers? I still have to read over the other article but from a brief perusal, it looks like a good source. Nirvana888 (talk) 00:56, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

Yes, I am able to read both articles as I have subscription to the journals. I would suggest that you use the source that you can access and I will look at the other source and try to reference it in the article. Nirvana888 (talk) 00:03, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

Hey, I'm really busy right now so I don't know how much I can work on it. I think you have a good grasp on what constitutes a reliable source. Also, any OR should be avoided, research must directly comment on future superpower status. Nirvana888 (talk) 02:11, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, I saw that and was slightly amused. The editor was probably trying to knock on Pakistan's "slim to no chance" of becoming a superpower. Nirvana888 (talk) 08:25, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

Backward Castes in India

Hi there, sorry to revert your edit on Religious violence in Orissa. Actually OBC ( other backward castes) is the term used by the govt. "Lower caste" is POV as it suggests derogatory. See also Other Backward Class. It is the collective term, used by the Government of India, for castes which are economically and socially disadvantaged and face, or may have faced discrimination on account of birth. -- Tinu Cherian - 04:28, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

Superpower

I've reverted the edits by the IP to the previous version. As I noted in the Talk page "There is no widespread belief in the international relations community that Russia is a "superpower" in the sense that it has been defined here. Fareed Zakaria in the The Post-American World (2008) that there is “one superpower, many great powers". Parag Khanna (2008) believes that Russia will never be a superpower given the foreseeable trends. Even China, a country cited many experts as having the highest chance of becoming a superpower does not have comparable global influence as the United States - and it will take at least some years/decade before it approaches the United States in comprehensive power. Bold statements that suggest a country has become a superpower should be supported by reliable sources from not only the media but also the academic community." Nirvana888 (talk) 00:03, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

I agree with what was said in the Noticeboard discussion. Key sources from international relations experts are desirable and preferred but I think there is nothing wrong with also including a source from the mainstream media to give further evidence from another viewpoint. As I said earlier, this issue is rather moot, as experts do not widely consider China much less Russia a full-fledged superpower comparable to the United States. Moreover, Zakaria, as recently as this year, believes that the US fulfills the role of the sole superpower. Nirvana888 (talk) 00:39, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

Indeed, I think the best way is to include both articles from influential IR journals (e.g. Foreign Affairs) and reliable mainstream sources such as NYT. Also, if the IP editor is convinced that Russia is a superpower, they should probably have a look at the Russia section in potential superpowers as it certainly does not suggest that Russia is currently a superpower and in my view should be overhauled if necessary before we make bold changes in the superpower article lead.

I'll have a look. Ideally, Hobie would best be able to accumulate evidence on possible sockpuppetry since he is most familiar with Versace's modus operandi and has been the main target of his interactions. Nirvana888 (talk) 06:11, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

Congrats!

		The Original Barnstar
		Just want to say it's been great pleasure working with you so far on these controversial articles. Keep up the good work with maintaining and improving the WikiProject articles! Nirvana888 (talk) 04:17, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

RE:90.196.3.37

I left a note on their talk page. My personal conviction holds me from blocking anyone but a blatant vandal on sight; I'd like to see if this person will talk to me. If he continues, then I'll block. As always, please feel free to keep me posted so that I don't miss anything; also, if you need anything else, do let me know! :) How did the potential superpowers article situation turn out, by the way? Master of Puppets _{Call me MoP! :)} 03:05, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

Awesome news about the superpowers article; I think you could shape that up quite well! And yeah, I had to protect it as the dynamic IP would require a rangeblock otherwise and those are too cumbersome. Hopefully now the user will discuss things. Master of Puppets _{Call me MoP! :)} 04:30, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

There's a bunch of discussion on my talk page about this; if you'd like to read up, feel free to. You can even weigh in if you feel like it. Cheers, Master of Puppets _{Call me MoP! :)} 07:24, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

How old are you ? Have you passed any GCSE's Question for Deavenger (A person who claims not to be a sikh but posts a lot on articles related on Sikh fundamentalism) strange dont you think ?

Islam and Sikhism

I appreciate your efforts towards saving an article Islam and Sikhism from serious vandalism. I have answered/replied to most of the questions on User Talk: Master of Puppets. Please feel free to read/reply out there. --Singh6 (talk) 07:58, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

Can I second that appreciation.--Sikh-history (talk) 15:15, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

Power in International Relations wikiproject

Yeah, sure, where do i sign:D - Swedish pirate (talk) 06:20, 5 November 2008 (UTC)