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Copying within Wikipedia requires attribution

Hi Daniel.Cardenas. It looks like you moved some content from Self-driving car to Adaptive cruise control. When you copy or move prose from one Wikipedia article to another, you need to provide attribution. This is done by saying in your edit summary that the material was copied, and where you got it. Please have a look at this edit summary for an example of how it is done. Please let me know if you have any questions, or have a look at WP:Copying within Wikipedia for more information. Thanks, — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 18:52, 25 December 2018 (UTC)

Thanks. Makes sense. Will be cognizant of that in the future.   Daniel.Cardenas (talk) 20:03, 25 December 2018 (UTC)

BFR

I would suggest you undo your move. That discussion has been ongoing, repeatedly, and every time with no consensus to move. Tarl N. (discuss) 19:19, 19 February 2019 (UTC)

You suggest to continue using wrong name? What do think of wp:bold?   Thanks, Daniel.Cardenas (talk) 19:21, 19 February 2019 (UTC)

When there have been multiple discussions in the weeks preceeding the WP:BOLD action, all coming down against exactly what you did, this isn't being bold. It's being disruptive. This goes smoother if you self-revert and take it to talk. Tarl N. (discuss) 19:24, 19 February 2019 (UTC)

As far as "coming down against", that is a bit harsh, actually plenty of supporters, with some of the dissenters suggesting to wait a month back in January and others to wait for SpaceX to confirm the name. Both of which have happened. The resolution was "no consensus" rather than directly against. I understand you think it is disruptive, I think it is helpful to stop using the wrong name. Thanks for sharing your opinion.   Daniel.Cardenas (talk) 19:34, 19 February 2019 (UTC)

From WP:BOLD: Though the boldness of contributors like you is one of Wikipedia's greatest assets, it is important that you take care of the common good and not edit disruptively or recklessly.. That exactly describes your actions - you acknowledge there was discussion, it was closed with a result, and you choose to ignore it. That is disruptive because it basically says "I don't care what any discussion said, I'm doing it my way." There are multiple reasons this is a bad idea. Again, undo your move and take it to talk. Tarl N. (discuss) 19:37, 19 February 2019 (UTC)

As stated previously it was in line with previous discussions for waiting for solidification of the name and waiting for official confirmation. Did not ignore, but paid great attention to previous discussions. Daniel.Cardenas (talk) 19:43, 19 February 2019 (UTC)

No, the discussions did not say "there is no consensus to move, so wait six weeks, ignore the discussion and do the move anyway", which is what you did. That is disruptive. Re-read WP:BOLD and WP:BRD, in particular on the need for consensus. The BOLD is intended for uncontroversial actions, not for actions which were argued about and settled against your choice. Tarl N. (discuss) 19:52, 19 February 2019 (UTC)

I think wp:commonsense says not to use the wrong name. Daniel.Cardenas (talk) 19:54, 19 February 2019 (UTC)

Ah, you were referring to the original rename. If you'd read the discussions on renaming, you'd see WP:COMMONNAME, which appears to still be BFR. And the fact that SPACEX changes names of its rockets more often than some people change their underwear. Tarl N. (discuss) 20:00, 19 February 2019 (UTC)

Per WP:COMMONNAME :

Sometimes the subject of an article will undergo a change of name. When this occurs, we give extra weight to reliable sources written after the name change is announced. If the reliable sources written after the change is announced routinely use the new name, Wikipedia should follow suit and change relevant titles to match.

WP:CORRECTNAME is not BFR. Daniel.Cardenas (talk) 18:30, 29 September 2019 (UTC)

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September 2019

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Android 10; that means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be, when you have seen that other editors disagree. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus, rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.

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Did you notice the talk discussion here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Manual_of_Style/Lists#Is_there_something_in_this_guideline_that_prevents_use_of_a_clear_concise_list_of_features_when_talking_about_update_to_a_operating_system?   Daniel.Cardenas (talk) 00:49, 5 September 2019 (UTC)

@Daniel.Cardenas: What does an active discussion have to do with the editing on the page? Per WP:BRDD, If your bold edit was reverted, then do not re-revert to your version. If your reversion was reverted, then do not re-revert to your version. If you re-revert, then you are no longer following BRD. – The Grid (talk) 17:21, 5 September 2019 (UTC)

The discussion is directly associated with edits on that page. The reverter has not discussed objections in that discussion and should not have reverted excellent improvements to the page. Daniel.Cardenas (talk) 18:00, 5 September 2019 (UTC)

• The guideline is called bold, revert, discuss. You decided to make a discussion on a completely separate page while one was made on the talk page. "Excellent improvements" is a bit much and I do suggest putting your feet on solid ground with discussions on this issue. – The Grid (talk) 18:45, 5 September 2019 (UTC)

Yes it is a guideline I chose not to follow, because revert reason cited is incorrect understanding of MOS:USEPROSE. The reason for discussion on related page was because of the reason for the revert, which is very wrong. And I do suggest when discussion policy at talk page you keep it on subject, rather than discussion irrelevant number of times someone made to a different page. Daniel.Cardenas (talk) 19:48, 5 September 2019 (UTC)

Three different editors reverted you. Let that sink-in. Walter Görlitz (talk) 13:19, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

September 2019

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war; that means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be, when you have seen that other editors disagree. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus, rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.

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Commonname

Hello Daniel,

The mistake was not explained.

• My edit has been reverted, so instead I should explain your mistake as nobody below seems to have noticed it... There is no, "exception to this ... when an official name change has occurred".
• The current guide seems to stress the phrase "extra weight", but in fact it is supposed to stress the word "after". Extra weight will be given if the new name is published widely enough, in reliable sources, to prove it is now the most commonly recognisable name. (<--this is the key, most commonly recognisable name)
• The extra weight is never given to a new name because it is new.
• If a name has been used for 100 years, and it has been changed last year, the number of resources using the 100 year old name will far outweigh the use of the new name, even after the new name has been proven to be accepted well enough, that it can now be assumed to be the most commonly recognisable name for the future.
• Have you heard of the great artist Michelangelo? His official name is, Michelangelo di Lodovico Buonarroti Simoni.
• In the old day, this policy was based largely on the fact it would help search engines. Search engines would have to be configured to cope with names which are official but rarely recognised. Wikipedia is not a money making business, but it is a business in a way, an academic business. We want as much advertising as possible, as many hits as possible from search engines.
• It does not affect quality to prefer most commonly recognisable before official. It rejects tradition. Tradition is not reason. Apologies. ~ R.T.G 18:07, 23 October 2019 (UTC)

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I see the pot calling the kettle black. Daniel.Cardenas (talk) 20:38, 26 January 2020 (UTC)

2019–20 Wuhan coronavirus outbreak countries

I think you might have cut a bit hard here when making 2019–20 Wuhan coronavirus outbreak countries, and there should be a summary in 2019–20 Wuhan coronavirus outbreak. Also I hop you are going to fix the references that are now split between articles! Graeme Bartlett (talk) 21:46, 26 January 2020 (UTC)

Here is the relevant section on the talk page. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:2019%E2%80%9320_Wuhan_coronavirus_outbreak#Page_size Feel free to revert if you don't think it was the right thing to do. Yes, I'll work on those issues. Daniel.Cardenas (talk) 21:49, 26 January 2020 (UTC)

I have fixed lost refs in 2019–20 Wuhan coronavirus outbreak now. I am not complaining about the split, so I won't revert. But we do need a bit more text there beyond the lead summary. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 21:55, 26 January 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for fixing the refs. That was fast.

I wrote this for summary:

The virus is spreading widely on the planet. The unknown cases maybe 10 times the number of confirmed cases. With children and young adults being less strongly affected than elder's, they maybe carriers of the disease. Countries have invoked measures to screen incoming passengers from China.

Now I need to find references. Daniel.Cardenas (talk) 22:14, 26 January 2020 (UTC)

• Daniel there is nothing gramatically wrong with "a dozen deaths in each of Iran, South Korea, and Italy". It is communicating that each of the three countries had a dozen deaths. "A dozen deaths particularly in Iran, South Korea, and Italy" has a different meaning, it's implying other countries also had a dozen deaths. "A dozen deaths in Iran, South Korea, and Italy" is ambiguous but implies a dozen deaths total for the three countries. Cheers! Captainllama (talk) 17:21, 29 February 2020 (UTC)

Yep, just read poorly. "in each of Iran". Got a mental block on that one. To be more clear if that was the goal versus succinct, one could have says in each country of ....   Thanks, Daniel.Cardenas (talk) 00:16, 1 March 2020 (UTC)

March 2020

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X-37 reference

Sources usually should NOT be repeated in the Lead if cited in the body of the article per MOS:LEADCITE. -Fnlayson (talk) 23:13, 17 May 2020 (UTC)

Sorry, MOS:LEADCITE doesn't say that. Daniel.Cardenas (talk) 03:09, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

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Talk about the pot calling the kettle black. Daniel.Cardenas (talk) 22:00, 30 June 2020 (UTC)

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Look in the mirror. Daniel.Cardenas (talk) 17:16, 1 December 2020 (UTC)

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misleading unassisted driving

You wrote:

In road-transport terminology, lane centering is a mechanism designed to keep a car centered in the lane, relieving the driver from the boredom of steering. Lane departure warning systems are similar to lane centering technology, but tend to have the negative affect of weaving inside the lane. Together with adaptive cruise control these vehicles allow for unassisted driving for some seconds.

Unassisted driving wording might be ambiguous as long as you did not define unassisted driving. By unassisted driving, did you mean:

• a mean (such as in reg 130) to manually deactivate the assisted feature?
• a kind of autonomous driving system such as Level 3?
• a kind of assisted driving such as hand-off?

5.2.3. The LDWS shall be active at least at vehicle speeds above 60 km/h, unless manually deactivated as per paragraph 5.3. below.

5.3. If a vehicle is equipped with a means to deactivate the LDWS function, the following conditions shall apply as appropriate

— Regulation UNECE 130

I do not understand what you call unassisted driving. My understanding is driving is unassisted when there is no driving assistance, that is no lane centering, no LDWS, and no ACC.

Can you provide missing information? 77.193.104.36 (talk) 12:00, 21 October 2023 (UTC)

Feel free to correct or delete the ambiguous text. Thanks for reviewing. Daniel.Cardenas (talk) 20:18, 23 October 2023 (UTC)