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	For maintaining refill! What a great tool! Andre🚐 02:49, 8 August 2022 (UTC)

@Andrevan: thanks - though I feel like a fraud to accept this. reFill definitely wasn't my brilliant idea - it was originally developed by Zhaofeng Li so they deserve the credit. Also, I am not really actively maintaining the code - I'm a .NET developer by background and while I was hoping to cross-train myself, the reality is I found the learning curve for the various languages, frameworks and toolkits involved too steep. If you are interested and have any spare capacity, it would be great to have you on board as a dev! Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 14:19, 8 August 2022 (UTC)

I'd be happy to help out, let me know if there is a place to start reviewing the code and documentation and see if there's something I can contribute to Andre🚐 15:17, 8 August 2022 (UTC)

@Andrevan: Great!! Maybe start by looking at Wikipedia:Refill/technical, and if you're a Windows user, there's an install guide at Wikipedia:Refill/Windows. Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 17:16, 8 August 2022 (UTC)

I'm a Linux user with access to a Mac, but I should be able to get the dev environment running from these instructions. Andre🚐 17:20, 8 August 2022 (UTC)

@Curb Safe Charmer, I checked out the repo but I got stuck in trying to install Python 3.8. I have asdf, pyenv, and python 3.8 installed, but the make setup script still chokes and I haven't figured out why yet. Andre🚐 02:12, 9 August 2022 (UTC)

Prométhée (NewSpace) article submission declined

Hi Curb Safe Charmer,

As far as I understand, you declined my Prométhée (NewSpace) because “that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject”.

I discussed it with a previous reviewer (Greenman) who also declined the article for the same reason. After a short discussion with him, I changed the sources I used to ones that are praised in Wikipedia : "Les Echos" ("he first daily French financial Newspaper, founded in 1908") and "Le Figaro" ("one of the three French newspapers of record"). I think these are reliable sources and I ad links to real articles written by journalists and not copied-pasted "press releases".

So, I’m wondering what I need to add/remove/update in order to comply to Wikipedia rules regarding sources. Could you take a few minutes to explain?

Thank you very much !

Bruno Bruno renkin (talk) 08:52, 18 August 2022 (UTC)

@Bruno renkin: if you look at that message again there are four parts:

• Published
• Reliable
• Secondary
• Independent

Les Echos and Le Figaro are published, reliable sources. The publishers are no doubt independent of Prométhée, though it is not automatically the case that their writer is independent - freelance journalists may have written a paid-for piece. But in this case, the issue is WP:SECONDARY coverage. As I wrote on the draft's talk page, we need sources that provide "independent journalistic analysis, evaluation or interpretation" rather just stating that something took place. The article in Le Figaro has no byline so we don't know who wrote it; it exclusively relies on information provided by the company's president Olivier Piepsz; there are lots of quotes from him or a press release that Le Figaro has enclosed in quotation marks; the writer hasn't added any of their own analysis, evaluation or interpretation. It is not investigative journalism. Wikipedia doesn't give much weight to announcements of funding rounds when establishing notability, and that is what this source seems to be. I am not a subscriber to Les Echos so was not able to assess that source, but as there must be at least two good sources to establish notability, even if that was a great source that met the criteria, the Le Figaro piece does not, and one good source is not enough.

We generally advise new Wikipedia editors to contribute to existing articles for a while first before trying to create a new article from scratch as there's so much to learn and get right, which I think you're experiencing. Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 12:54, 18 August 2022 (UTC)

Makes perfect sense.

Thanks a lot, I'll wait for more investigative papers. Bruno renkin (talk) 07:26, 19 August 2022 (UTC)

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Re: Your removal of CSD template on Draft:Fawn Parker

Admins will typically delete autobiographies de facto under G11. Two of the references on the draft are simply links to her books on her publisher's website and another is simply a link to her website. Also, her paragraph about her life is unsourced and she's plugging her future work in the third paragraph, also unsourced. These factors combined with the user's edit history relating exclusively to herself are why I nominated the draft for deletion. Since you disagree, I won't re-add the CSD template, but I just wanted to let you know. Uhai (talk · contribs) 17:50, 8 September 2022 (UTC)

The "Paid Contributors" Tag on Ephemeral

Hi Curb Safe Charmer,

I see you just added a "paid contributors" tag to a page I submitted via AfC. The tag says, "This article contains paid contributions. It may require cleanup to comply with Wikipedia's content policies, particularly neutral point of view. Please discuss further on the talk page."

I'm confused. Isn't this "paid contributors" tag for cases of WP:UPE? I disclosed my COI on my Talk page and in the Talk page for this article, and I've followed WP:NPOV.

Or does Wikipedia require that this tag be added to any article submitted via AfC by a paid contributor?

Thank you for clarifying.

Signed,
BlueRoses13 (talk) 15:35, 20 September 2022 (UTC)

@BlueRoses13: the disclosures you currently have on your user talk page should be elsewhere. The template you've used is the one that goes on the article talk page. As the template instructions say "this template should be placed on the talk pages of articles and drafts". Please move them to the relevant articles' or drafts' talk pages. You then need to use the {{paid}} template on your user page, once for each employer.

The paid contributions template is for articles or drafts where the author has already declared that they've been paid to contribute to the article. It is distinct from the undisclosed paid template, which is used where other editors suspect that it has been created or edited by someone on a paid basis, but that editor has not made a declaration. It does not have to be added to articles which have paid contributions, but it is useful at this stage to flag to reviewers that you've already made a declaration. It means when they read it they don't start thinking "this reads like the work of a paid editor" and then going to look if you've made a declaration and if not ask you to do so. In practice I think reviewers will give your draft a better assessment than if you'd not declared it.

I note that you say you've followed the NPOV guideline, but given your conflict of interest that's not for you to say; it will be the task of an Articles for Creation reviewer and a New Page Patrol reviewer to look at the references and see whether your draft does or doesn't take a neutral point of view.

Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 16:51, 20 September 2022 (UTC)

Thank you very much for your speedy and detailed answer, @Curb Safe Charmer. I understand why adding the "paid" tag to an AfC draft would be helpful (despite the other disclosures), and you are indeed right: a decision about NPOV is best left to unconflicted reviewers. My apologies, and thanks again. Signed, BlueRoses13 (talk) 18:56, 20 September 2022 (UTC)

Charbel Elie Atallah

Hello please can u help me about informations needed ? Tomcea92 (talk) 19:26, 20 September 2022 (UTC)

Sandi's Song

Please look up Sayin' It with Love by Steve Camp on Wikipedia. This article also doesn't have any additional sources except a link to Christian Music Archive and yet it was acceptable. Must specify what additional information you need in an article. Do you mean chart placements, awards, etc? Most Christian music artists don't have additional sources or information. I have used Discogs and Allmusic for album information and album covers. Joelcab123 (talk) 20:12, 26 September 2022 (UTC)

@Joelcab123: Thanks, I've now redirected Sayin' It with Love to the article about Steve Camp. Another editor has today created a redirect from Sandi's Song to Sandi Patty, which is the standard thing to do if an album is not notable in its own right, per Wikipedia:Notability (music)#Albums. Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 20:29, 26 September 2022 (UTC)

Thank You

I will find more references and resubmit the Draft https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Navia_Lx_Rapper

Thank you for the head up I appreciated ❤ Lucifer122 (talk) 02:39, 17 October 2022 (UTC)

Kelvin Sulugwe

Please look up Draft:Kelvin Sulugwe, I have made several changes as you suggested and added new sources. I have also re-written the submission to stick to the topic that the user is notable for. Akodip (talk) 13:58, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

Sergey Saveljev

Hey, please look up https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Sergey_Saveljev i wrote it in another way and added new sources.

@Curb Safe Charmer: 2001:9E8:41A9:B400:4C85:3A4A:7E88:F95C (talk) 18:10, 10 October 2022 (UTC)

Shanta Holdings

Hello Curb, I've made the necessary changes you've suggested for Draft:Shanta Holdings . I've re-submitted it 2 days ago, can you please re-review it? Many thanks! Mdabdulhalimrafi (talk) 02:55, 14 October 2022 (UTC)

Draft:Chick-fil-A and Asian Americans

The content is not covered on the Chick-fil-A page and the page is based on the existing Chick-fil-A and LGBT people page. 新城服務比中巴的更壞 (talk) 13:54, 17 October 2022 (UTC)

@新城服務比中巴的更壞: There is a section titled 'Controversies' in the Chick-fil-A article that can be expanded. We don't start a new article about one aspect of a topic until there's enough material to warrant it, which is what has happened with the LGBT controversy. See WP:SPLITTING for guidance. Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 13:58, 17 October 2022 (UTC)

User talk:Fastfoodfanatic/Race and transportation in the United States

I will add more sources. Is it not a suitable topic for inclusion, when Race and crime in the United States, among others, exists, and this has many possible sources? Fastfoodfanatic (talk) 12:08, 20 October 2022 (UTC)

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Navia_Lx_Rapper

Hey Curb Safe Charmer, Hope Your Doing Well. Please Review My Draft https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Navia_Lx_Rapper I've added new sources according to what you leave in comment few weeks ago. I would be so happy if it gets Approved or declined. please review it and leave comment so I will be able to know what to do next. Thanks Lucifer122 (talk) 17:47, 23 October 2022 (UTC)

@Lucifer122: There are currently 2,989 drafts waiting review and yours is just one of them, so you'll need to be patient. Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 09:16, 24 October 2022 (UTC)

Paul Lee page

Yesterday I added a death date to Paul Lee's page, (October 19, 2022). He was a good friend and one of his closest friends informed me. I only added that. I wanted to add a page on my archival historical site, http://www.cuke.com/people/lee-paul.htm, but I didn't see where to do that. You wrote: "Hello, I'm Curb Safe Charmer. I noticed that you added or changed content in an article, Paul Lee (environmentalist), but you didn't provide a reliable source. It's been removed and archived in the page history for now, but if you'd like to include a citation and re-add it, please do so.: " - I'm not going to do anything other than send you this note. Actually my name should be enough - or cuke.com which is a 23 year old respected historical archival site. I don't know what else I can do and I don't have time to do more anyway. Take care. David Chadwick (dchad3@sonic.net) David Reich Chadwick (talk) 02:59, 3 November 2022 (UTC)

@David Reich Chadwick: I appreciate that you are certain what you have added is factual. However, while Wikipedia is the encyclopaedia that anyone can edit, the WP:Verifiability policy is a cornerstone of how Wikipedia operates and says "even if you are sure something is true, it must be verifiable before you can add it." It must be possible for the reader to verify the statement in a reliable, published source. As your third-hand knowledge of Mr Lee's death is not a verifiable, published source the statement should be removed from the article. If a published source becomes available, such as an obituary in a national newspaper than it can be re-added with an inline reference. Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 14:51, 3 November 2022 (UTC)

Marty York Resubmission

Hi Curb Safe Charmer,

I wanted to follow up on the feedback and advice that you gave me regarding my Marty York draft submission a few months back. I finally found the time to do some research and find sources that I think meet the criteria for three key sources to demonstrate notability, based on how you explained the requirements. I've attempted to list them on the draft's talk page.

I tried to make a note on the page itself about my progress, but I am still (relatively) a beginner to this process so I apologize if I did not enter it correctly, as I'm not the most savvy with the editing layout so I can't tell if my notes have gone through as intended and I know others have edited or reviewed the article since.

My intention was to provide the following three sources as the 3 for notability:

1) https://rrj.ca/whipping-boy/

2) https://books.google.ca/books?id=7UmdBQAAQBAJ&pg=PA77&source=gbs_toc_r&cad=3#v=onepage&q&f=false (Chapter 7 - "The Enemy")

3) Borenstein, Jack (September 1, 2005). "Sports' Marty York returns to his print media roots". The Jewish Tribune. p. 11. Retrieved November 11, 2022. Link to Photo of the article: https://imgur.com/a/ntmPzRE

I hope I have updated this correctly, as I do want the article to comply with Wikipedia's standards. I don't want my lack of familiarity with the ins and outs of the process to come across the wrong way!

Thank you for any feedback or update you can provide me on this article when you have a chance.

Budgelevel (talk) 01:45, 12 November 2022 (UTC)

@Budgelevel: I see you've resubmitted the draft. Another reviewer will be along to take a look at it in due course. Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 10:51, 15 November 2022 (UTC)

Own words....?

I have been asked by Stéphane Plante to put this page together for her. I have taken paragraphs written by her from her bio with the city of Ottawa (hence you saying not orginal). Then you delete wording that on my draft. It takes a lot of time to redo my citations. I have look at other councillors pages and the depth of what she is doing in her life in my opinion in broad in scope like getting a park renamed, walkable communities and addressing doctors shortages, and opinions on critical issues for her riding. You have deleted on this from my last draft. I went to the French wiki. Put in a sentence or two in English and it published...so why are the rules so difficult in the English. Of course we are going to be building on this page of the next four years regularly as she gains more experience in her new job. 207.35.246.114 (talk) 13:44, 26 November 2022 (UTC)

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Draft:Chick-fil-A and Asian Americans

How is it contrary to the purpose of Wikipedia? It is sourced. Fastfoodfanatic (talk) 16:40, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

Chick-fil-A and LGBT people exists! Fastfoodfanatic (talk) 16:43, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

@Fastfoodfanatic::

Aoidh already explained to you what the issues with the draft are. I will reiterate here in my own words:

1. Wikipedia is not a soapbox or means of promotion.
2. Reference 4 ("Tulsa Chick-Fil-A Damaged After Fire In Drive-Thru") makes no mention of race as a motive. The connection with Oklahoma 'being a racist state' is your WP:SYNTHESIS.
3. Reference 8 ("San Francisco is the third city to tell Chick-fil-A: Keep out") makes no mention of race as a reason for the mayor's comments.
4. Reference 9 ("Lawsuit alleges Chick-Fil-A discriminates against disabled job applicants") and 10 ("Kwon et al v. Chick-fil-A, Inc") only mention disability, not race, so this doesn't belong in an article that implies the company is racist.
5. I cannot see any relevance to the article in the list of Asian franchise owners.
6. The incidents where individual staff members have made racial slurs does not mean the company is racist. These can be isolated incidents, perhaps where the individual employee is racist. The company fired the individuals involved or issued apologies.
7. Wikipedia writes about topics that have already been written about in depth in other reliable, independent publications - this is the basis of the notability policy. For this subject to be shown to be notable, there would already be, for example, national newspaper articles written about corporate racism at Chick-Fil-A that you could cite.

When a draft is accepted into mainspace you are writing in Wikipedia's voice, which many people trust, and it is inappropriate to include an article that is based on your synthesis of a list of isolated incidents that implies a company is inherently racist.

Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 18:37, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

The article is NOT implying CFA is inherently racist. It is a list of incidents and facts related to both Chick-fil-A and Asian Americans, and the list of franchise owners shows the article is not meant to be one-sided. Plus "many people trust" is not a good reasoning - the fact is Wikipedia should not shy away from topics like this, and it is NOT considered a reliable source by experts and teachers. Fastfoodfanatic (talk) 18:51, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

Irrespective of your intention, as a reader who has never been to one of their restaurants, I interpreted what you had written as implying that the company is racist. What you have written is contrary to WP:NPOVVIEW. Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 18:54, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

That's your opinion, and I can reword it and change the description to just be an article about all Chick-fil-A facts relating to Asian Americans. Would that be fine? Fastfoodfanatic (talk) 18:56, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

No. You should expand the Chick-fil-A article instead. Any decision to WP:CONTENTFORK should be proposed on that article's talk page and a consensus achieved before writing a spinoff article. Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 19:01, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

Why is it not fine? There is enough content to justify a separate page, similar to Chick-fil-A and LGBT people. Fastfoodfanatic (talk) 19:02, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

Regarding Times 40

Hi Curb,

As you've said Anjali Phougat WP:Films which I think he is not as she won the cannes film award for her LGBT film. Second thing you have said times 40 is not notable award so let me explain. The times 40 under 40 is notable award by the Times group which is one of the largest media group of APAC. Some of the references for you where you can learn the notability of Times 40 under 40. Fortune 40 under 40 has Wikipedia page, later ET and Times Group merged into it. Fortune India is the main example of [1]

Thirdly she is into fashion field and i think attending international events pass the notability WP:GNG Draft:Anjali Phougat But still I am fixing the article more.

[2]https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/company/corporate-trends/et-40-under-forty-india-incs-top-young-leaders-2021/ankit-agarwal-38/slideshow/90744257.cms [3]https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/business/india-business/times-40-under-40-north-2022-leaders-honouring-excellence/articleshow/92646683.cms https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/40_Under_40 Hukumat Namanzoor (talk) 09:00, 9 December 2022 (UTC)

@Hukumat Namanzoor: I know that The Times of India is a major newspaper. According to WP:TOI, the consensus is that editors consider it a neutrally reliable or unreliable source. That is not the issue here. When assessing notability, reviewers pay little or no regard to someone being in a '40 under 40' list, no matter who the publisher is. We look for independent, in-depth coverage in reliable sources, which I have established are lacking in this draft.

• For filmmakers, we also look at WP:FILMMAKER which provides specific guidance as to which filmmakers are likely to be notable. Which of those four criteria does Phougat meet?
• The Cannes Global Short Film Festival isn't part of the Cannes Film Festival - if she had won the Short Film Palme d'Or that would be notable.
• Editors have twice deleted articles about her based on consensus that she is not notable.

Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 10:19, 9 December 2022 (UTC)

Editor deleted it because the previous ones has 10 references and that too SEO blackhat websites (you can compare all the deleted version with this one kindly) but none of the articles are used in this version which were previously deleted. All are major independent news outlets. I have seen 17 Wikipedia pages of her competitors or from the same field, they have 5 references in Google and they have Wikipedia page and none bother to delete it. Pakistan Today is independent newspaper which tells clearly that Phougat has won times 40 under 40, if we look into US publications then we see more independent coverage.

The person is regarded as an important figure or is widely cited by peers or successors (Phougat is definitely passing it, I can share 5 Independent references)

The person has created or played a major role in co-creating a significant or well-known work or collective body of work. In addition, such work must have been the primary subject of multiple independent periodical articles or reviews, or of an independent and notable work (for example, a book, film, or television series, but usually not a single episode of a television series) (Phougat's film is mentioned by independent third party news websites including ANI the national news agency of India)

She is also a designer and was part of NYFW 2022 where she was recognized as well, doesn't makes her notable??

The person's work (or works) has: (a) become a significant monument, (b) been a substantial part of a significant exhibition, (c) won significant critical attention, or (d) been represented within the permanent collections of several notable galleries or museums. (Phougat is designer and she was the official stylists of Miss Universe Harnaaz Kaur Sandhu Anjali's design was wore by many models and Anjali's design was not only mentioned by independent news outlets but also mentioned by the Harpar Bazaar. Hukumat Namanzoor (talk) 10:33, 9 December 2022 (UTC)

She is Manya Pathak in Cannes 2022 she wore the Anjali's design, Anjali was mentioned by multiple news outlets as she was appeared in red carpet of Cannes.[4]https://www.koimoi.com/fashion-lifestyle/cannes-2022-dilli-darlings-fame-manya-pathak-walks-the-prestigious-red-carpet-looking-stunning-in-luxury-brand-designer-dream-collection-by-anjali-phougat/eam-collection-by-anjali-phougat/

I have not mentioned the APN News here but this is one of the notable magazine of India Hukumat Namanzoor (talk) 10:37, 9 December 2022 (UTC)

Which five references shows that Phougat's filmmaking is widely cited by peers? Which well-known work has she created that has been the main subject of multiple independent periodical articles or reviews or had a film, book or TV series made about it?

No, just being a designer and having a celebrity wear your dress does not make someone notable by Wikipedia's definition.

Her designs being worn by models is not a significant monument, not part of a significant exhibition of her work. Which fashion critics have given them significant critical attention? Which gallery or museum have her dresses in them?

The Koimoi.com link you provided above returns a 404 error.

The APN News reference is a PR piece where the designer talks about herself, rather than independent coverage.

I am afraid you continue to fail to convince me. Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 10:45, 9 December 2022 (UTC)

I would definitely convince you cuz you're continuously forcing other editors not to review the page by adding remarks which tells clearly that you want other editors not to pass this Wikipedia at any cost. You saying this was deleted two times which I said it was but have you even seen the previously deleted version? I recommend you to do so. Don't be so harsh and kindly if that doesn't makes her notable then let me share some more Wikipedia pages of other celebrities of the same industry, they're having Wikipedia with no or less references but never got deleted. I will see if you can put the remarks their as well :) and here's the Koimoi link Hukumat Namanzoor (talk) 10:57, 9 December 2022 (UTC)

Which five references shows that Phougat's filmmaking is widely cited by peers?

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Hukumat Namanzoor (talk) 11:06, 9 December 2022 (UTC)

Her designs being worn by models is not a significant monument, not part of a significant exhibition of her work. Which fashion critics have given them significant critical attention? Which gallery or museum have her dresses in them?

I am hearing it first time that dresses stays in museum to get Wikipedia notability lol, Please explain me why this page is active on Wikipedia if Nalini Sriram's dresses are not in museum?

Another Indian fashion designer, check her articles and (interviews) I need to see your response on this

Only 8 references of Komal Shahani, tell me is she eligible? Hukumat Namanzoor (talk) 11:14, 9 December 2022 (UTC)

You are totally silent, why?? I want you to let me know about the 3 Wikipedia pages which I have mentioned. Dare to put AFD there? or removing some bad references? or this facility only available for the selective pages??? Hukumat Namanzoor (talk) 09:10, 17 December 2022 (UTC)

reFill for other wikis

Hi Curb Safe Charmer. You're a maintainer of reFill. Quick question: what does one need to do to add more wikis to the drop down menus at refill.toolforge.org? Where does one localize/translate CS1 templates (or just their names, leaving English parameter names) for other wikis? I'd be interested in adding support for hrwiki, but I'm not sure what needs to be done. Thnx, Ponor (talk) 13:00, 29 December 2022 (UTC)

Reply to your message re: More Than I Want to Remember

Hello!

Thank you for your message! I believe my Wiki article to be factual and unbiased, as I worked to closely follow the terms laid out on Wikipedia. I am not being paid to create this page, though I do know about the project. It is a short film that is shortlisted for an Oscar and we are trying to give it (like all the other animated shorts on Wiki) a Wiki page for reference. As you mentioned, I'd love to ask you or another editor to proofread this page, as I think you'll find it ready to publish and meeting Wiki's terms. Please let me know if you need anything else and thank you so much for reaching out so quickly!

(Morethaniwanttoremember (talk) 21:45, 12 January 2023 (UTC));

Appreciation for your contributions and building a positive relationship

Dear Curb Safe Charmer,

I wanted to reach out and express my gratitude for your help in correcting my mistakes and providing helpful suggestions on my national and international language edits on Wikipedia. As a new editor, I am learning new things every day and I appreciate your guidance. I would love to build a positive relationship with you as fellow editors. If you are open to it, please consider adding yourself to my friend list table on my user page. Thank you for your support. Alexandar Garcia (talk) 23:54, 12 January 2023 (UTC)

Draft:Marnovation (G11: Unambiguous advertising or promotion)

Can you please guide me on where I went wrong with this article. As I am new here and didnt post it, for the reason mentioned by the deleter Marvinks.wellsltd (talk) 11:53, 13 January 2023 (UTC)

@Marvinks.wellsltd: Wikipedia is an encyclopedia. It is not a place to advertise your new website. Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 11:54, 13 January 2023 (UTC)

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Hi, Curb Safe Charmer‬

I have updated the info regarding HTML on your page / article. I thought it would help the community and i didn't attached any likn with my piece of content except the reference source. could you please reconsider your action regarding my info removal? if so, I will be highly obliged.

Regards! Misbah6666 (talk) 11:15, 19 January 2023 (UTC)

@Misbah6666: thank you for your contributions. However, please add references from recognised reliable sources and note that Wikipedia doesn't include everything about a subject. Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 18:03, 19 January 2023 (UTC)

noted with thanks @Curb Safe Charmer and yeah I know Wikipedia doesn't include, I just added the reference and I will remain careful about that for sure! Misbah6666 (talk) 05:47, 20 January 2023 (UTC)

Can you move Draft:Council for Foreign and Defense Policy from draft to a normal article space?

Hello Curb Safe Charmer! I found your name here:

• https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Participants

congratulations on being one of the anointed. 😀

Can you move this out of draft? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Council_for_Foreign_and_Defense_Policy

Thank you in advance Curb Safe Charmer! Metro2fsb (talk) 06:26, 23 January 2023 (UTC)

@Metro2fsb: Seems you've already moved it, but not using the right method, see HELP:MOVE. Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 07:18, 26 January 2023 (UTC)

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bhupenddra Singh Raathore

Hello. Does the sudden "speedy keep", by a nominating account a month old, strike you as a bit odd? The account's edits also overlap with blocked sock User:Jamalahmadpk, starting from their first edit. 2A01:4C8:522:ABAC:E1B2:E055:AF79:123F (talk) 12:45, 28 January 2023 (UTC)

Fiinu wikipedia draft

Hi there,

Thanks for taking time to review my submission for Fiinu Plc. I am wondering if there is anything specific you saw that led you to reject the draft? We are keen to see the page go up and think that it will be a useful resource for consumers as we expand it so any guidance would be much appreciated.

Thanks in advance. Brazil200 (talk) 11:52, 23 January 2023 (UTC)

Deletion of Anusha Nuthula page

Hi Curb Safer, I am Sorry, I don't know about three revert rule. I revert the page once. Only change was I removed that message to protect my senior page. Because I thought as threat. But I understand right now. Please forgive me. If I did any mistake. Sorry for the ruckus.

I will rewrite the details from the start don't worry. Santhanakkulu (talk) 13:40, 31 January 2023 (UTC)

ReFill isn't working for MONTHS

Tracked in Phabricator
Task T295327

Just letting you know. MONTHS. --Bageense^(disc.) 16:18, 30 January 2023 (UTC)

@Bageense: I use it daily on the English Wikipedia. Which language version are you editing on? What doesn't work? Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 17:15, 30 January 2023 (UTC)

I (try to) use ReFill in the Portuguese Wikipedia. I thought the problem had something to do with the old ReFill, and that the new version (which I can't find anymore) would work. In other words, I thought that the old refill had been discontinued. --Bageense^(disc.) 22:34, 30 January 2023 (UTC)

@Bageense: is this the error you get?

Error Uh-oh! We couldn't retrieve the page! Either it doesn't exist, or there were some network hiccups. Please try again.

Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 22:44, 30 January 2023 (UTC)

Yes! Every time. --Bageense^(disc.) 01:03, 31 January 2023 (UTC)

@Bageense: For now, please try this instead. Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 12:58, 31 January 2023 (UTC)

That's the tool I was looking for. I couldn't find it on Google or in the page Wikipedia:ReFill, which is supposed to be about the tool. Just an advice, it is necessary to properly "advertise" the product.

Well, it worked. All I had to do was use a custom script to translate the templates. That's it I guess, thanks! --Bageense^(disc.) 16:56, 31 January 2023 (UTC)

Merges and merges and merges!

I laughed when I saw your note about AWAS Aviation Capital now needing to be merged into AWAS (company). Isn't that always the way? I saw that you've been here 15 years! I can't imagine how I haven't bumped into you before now. Anyway, happy merging! Joyous! | Talk 16:07, 14 February 2023 (UTC)

@Joyous!: Thanks for the message. Nice to meet you! I think today was my first proper merge, so maybe that's why our paths haven't crossed! Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 16:11, 14 February 2023 (UTC)

Draft:Tabiti

Hello. Concerning the submission at Draft:Tabiti, the content on the website https://slife.org/scythian-religion/ is itself a mirror of the Wikipedia article Scythian religion, all of whose contents were written by myself. None of this material is copyrighted. Antiquistik (talk) 20:18, 16 February 2023 (UTC)

I have replied to you on your user talk page. Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 21:18, 16 February 2023 (UTC)

Assistance, please

I am trying to document a feature of text editors, and attempted to follow the example of other headings in a request that I document the feature. If I can not document Virtual Space with an article, then how should I document the meaning of Virtual Space in the context of a text editor. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_text_editors

I've spent hours trying to contribute, and I do not have much more time to give. Regards, Tribernia (talk) 17:09, 8 March 2023 (UTC)

@Tribernia: hi. I can see that you're trying to document which editors include virtual space support and another editor has questioned what this feature is. I think you should write a sentence or two about what it is within the comparison of text editors list, and then add a reference to a reliable source backing up what you've written. You don't need there to be a separate article about virtual space. For there to be a separate article you'd need to be able to show that multiple reliable, independent publications such as books, academic journals or reliable technology magazines had written in-depth about the subject, which I presume is unlikely. Wikipedia only includes articles about subjects that are notable. I hope this doesn't put you off contributing to Wikipedia. Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 17:19, 8 March 2023 (UTC)

Humanist and Non-religious in Defence

Dear CSC,

Thank you for your feedback. This is my first attempt at creating a wiki page. I understand and agree the points you make. My question is that as I was basing content on another wiki page Armed Forces Christian Union, and they have had theirs published, please can you advise on where I am failing to make a similar page to theirs which I assumed was ok due to it having been published. Many thanks, Neil Ndweddell (talk) 13:11, 2 March 2023 (UTC)

@Ndweddell: You'd be best letting someone else who is independent of HAND write about it due to your conflict of interest. Writing a Wikipedia article is hard enough without the added challenge of removing your inevitable bias. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a means of free publicity - try setting up a website, or see this list of alternative platforms.

While it might seem sensible to base your article on the existing one for AFCU, that article doesn't meet Wikipedia's standards and will probably be deleted. Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 13:22, 2 March 2023 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: Draft:Virtual Walk in Clinics in Canada

Hello Curb Safe Charmer. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Draft:Virtual Walk in Clinics in Canada, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: Virtual clinics are a serious issue invading the Canadian health care system. An encyclopedic treatment is warranted; this isn't it and it should have been rejected, but there's a kernel of an article here and the author should be given the opportunity to work on it. It is not unambiguously promotional. Thank you. Ivanvector (^Talk/_Edits) 15:12, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

Please give me your thoughts on my draft

Hi Curb Safe Charmer, I'm a little stuck on what to do further about this draft I've been working on for the last few days. Came across this company recently because they have one of their products associated with the G20 summit in India later this year. I've been trying to look at articles on similar topics and then copying the structure and writing style. I saw that you are on the Companies WikiProject and an AFC reviewer. Is there any scope for improvement for this article or is it good to go? 2405:201:1006:E279:B45A:5BAE:B6CB:41F4 (talk) 07:42, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

Request on 14:36:13, 9 March 2023 for assistance on AfC submission by Mvojte

• Mvojte (talk · contribs)
  • User:Mvojte (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

The page Ondřej Chybík is a translation of an existing page and an official biography of the subject of the page. The author of the text is the original author of the biography and the content is not copied.

Mvojte (talk) 14:36, 9 March 2023 (UTC)

@Mvojte: did you read the messages left for you on your talk page? Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 14:37, 9 March 2023 (UTC)

Draft:Godson Umeh

You declined my article Draft:Godson Umeh despite the subject been feature in many publishing reliable media houses @Curb Safe Charmer subject has enjoyed significant coverage since last. submission. from The Sun (United Kingdom) [5] which simply is kind of a controversial fight having the fact that he had to wait for 15 minutes before coming out to fight only to lose after Round One of the fight, which actually made headlines also.

Also passing mention from Daily mirror [6] [7] subject also have been the headline of many Nigeria media houses which have been deemed reliable.

Please explain to me why you still feel the subject is not qualified. Beckyrose233 (talk) 05:57, 12 March 2023 (UTC)

@Beckyrose233: I have already explained my reasoning, which can be read in the comment I added to the draft which is also available on your user talk page. Regarding the argument you make above, The Sun is not considered to be a reliable source, and is not to be used to establish notability of a subject - per WP:THESUN. There is no consensus on whether the Daily Mirror is to be considered more reliable than The Sun - see WP:DAILYMIRROR. As you said, they are only mentioned in one sentence in the Daily Mirror and the same in The Daily Express. I suggest you find another subject to write about. Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 17:26, 12 March 2023 (UTC)

Request on 18:03:09, 9 April 2023 for assistance on AfC submission by Luigi Alberto Irauzqui

• Luigi Alberto Irauzqui (talk · contribs)
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helo: my wikipedia article got rejected because of copywright issue. i dont know which content in it is copywright. As i am not writing autobiography, actually it is biography6 of my client whose previous wikipedia article was taken down. Please do highlight the content in my article that is copywright so that I may remove it.as the details are authentic, then why article got rejected? because that has been already deleted? i am waiting for you kind response. Luigi Alberto Irauzqui (talk) 18:03, 9 April 2023 (UTC)

helo:

my wikipedia article got rejected because of copywright issue. i dont know which content in it is copywright. as i am not writing autobiography, actually it is biography of my client whose previous wikipedia article was taken down.please do highlight the content in my article that is copywright so that i may remove it.as the details are authentic, then why article got rejected?

because that has been already deleted? Luigi Alberto Irauzqui (talk) 18:10, 9 April 2023 (UTC)

@Luigi Alberto Irauzqui: Wikipedia articles have to be written in your own words. If you have another attempt at creating an article, please ensure you do this rather than copying text or images from another website. Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 08:58, 18 April 2023 (UTC)

CS1 error on Simon Talbot

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ReferenceExpander

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Glazermann

That would be me. I am already busy with citation bot. AManWithNoPlan (talk) 15:02, 9 June 2023 (UTC)

@AManWithNoPlan: thanks for identifying yourself, and thanks for your recent contributions to the repo, especially as your focus is elsewhere. Even if you don't have time to be a maintainer, your knowledge of developing tools is invaluable. Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 16:21, 9 June 2023 (UTC)

STS Lord Nelson

Hi - Way back in 2018 you got this article off the ground, and were intending to come back to it later.

I suppose that this water has passed under many bridges by now. Can I tempt you have another look? Davidships (talk) 04:24, 26 June 2023 (UTC)

Draft: Excell Metal Spinning LTd. - need assistance regarding sources

Hello, thank you for reviewing my page, I see there is an issue with the sources, I've removed the source from the website directly associated with the company and have left only sources from reliable news channels. Can you see any further issues that I can correct? Curtis Bligh (talk) 14:12, 10 July 2023 (UTC)

Draft since deleted as G11 and editor blocked.

Draft:RAAAF

Hi Curb Safe Charmer, quite some months ago you declined my draft for a Wikipedia article on Dutch artist studio RAAAF. You gave me some valuable comments/links with respect to the guidelines on referencing, notability and having to write the article in my own words, which made me fully understand why the article was declined. I have used these comments for rewriting the article (this is what it looks like now: Draft:RAAAF). Any further comments would be welcome. At this point the article does most likely still need some work, and I do not plan to resubmit before I am more certain it meets Wikipedia's standards.

I thank you in advance for your response!

FromAbilityToNeed (talk) 13:57, 16 July 2023 (UTC)

Draft:Robert chahine

hello, you once reviewed the article “draft:Robert chahine “ . it has been re-submitted since with your propositions taken into consideration (4 month ago)

could you please review it again?

thank you

Maria 130.25.103.109 (talk) 05:51, 12 July 2023 (UTC)

@Mariaelhayek: I see Draft:Robert Chahine has been submitted for review. You'll need to be patient as there is currently a long backlog, but someone will review it in due course. Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 12:22, 19 July 2023 (UTC)

Draft:Bernard Schapiro - need help regarding sources and references

Hi Curb Safe Charmer, first of all - thank you for reviewing and improving the draft. There are many different references online, some of them in German, some in Hebrew and some in English. I've incorporated some of them where I saw fit in the article itself. How can we further improve the article ?

Thank you!

as for the needed notability criteria, I believe there are many supporting references online- here are some of them,

• Significant Contributions to Sexual Science: Dr. Schapiro's research and work in sexual science, particularly during the early 20th century, have had a lasting impact on the field. You can find some of his contributions on PubMed.
• Association with a Renowned Institution: His role as the Assistant Director at the Institute for Sexual Science in Berlin, a pioneering institution in sexual science, significantly adds to his notability. More about his role can be found on the Hirschfeld in Berlin website.
• Collaboration with Renowned Individuals: Dr. Schapiro worked closely with Dr. Magnus Hirschfeld, a prominent figure in sexual science. This association further enhances his notability. More about their collaboration can be found on the Magnus Hirschfeld Gesellschaft website.
• Groundbreaking Research: He co-authored several scientific papers, including a notable study on transvestism. This groundbreaking research has been recognized for its importance in the field. More about his research can be found on Manchester Scholarship Online.
• Historical Recognition: Dr. Schapiro's contributions to sexual science are recognized in several historical records and photographs, indicating his importance and influence during his time. Some of these records can be found on the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum website.

Below are some additional references used, in no particular order.

• Bernard Schapiro in the US National Library of Medicine
  • https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/12703271/
• Bernard Schapiro in the Institute of Sexual Sciences:
  • https://www.hirschfeld.in-berlin.de/institut/en/ifsframe.html?personen/pers_06.html
  • https://magnus-hirschfeld.de/institute-for-sexual-science-1919-1933/personnel/dermatologists/
  • https://picryl.com/topics/institut+fur+sexualwissenschaft
• Sexologist and sex reformer Magnus Hirschfeld (center) with his co-worker Bernhard Schapiro (1885-1966) …
  • https://collections.ushmm.org/search/catalog/pa1136956
• Bernhard Schapiro, Magnus Hirschfeld, Tao Lee
  • https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Bernhard_Schapiro,_Magnus_Hirschfeld,_Tao_Lee.jpg
• Bernard Schapiro in an essay: “Out on the TownMagnus Hirschfeld and Berlin’s Third Sex”
  • https://publicdomainreview.org/essay/out-on-the-town
• Bernhard Schapiro in Archive for Sexology
  • http://www.sexarchive.info/GESUND/ARCHIV/SCHAP.HTM
• Bernard Schapiro in Institut für Sexualwissenschaft
  • https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Institut_f%C3%BCr_Sexualwissenschaft
• Bernard Schapiro in A Sexologist and His Two Archives: An Interview with Erwin J. Haeberle
  • https://notchesblog.com/2015/03/19/a-sexologist-and-his-two-archives-erwin-j-haeberle/
• Bernard Schapiro in Manchester Scholarship Online
  • https://academic.oup.com/manchester-scholarship-online/book/16818/chapter/174014328

Weghit (talk) 06:46, 15 July 2023 (UTC)

@Weghit: I see the draft has been accepted - well done. You might want to continue to add some of these references in relevant places in the article, or copy the list to the article talk page so that others who want to enhance the article can make use of these sources. Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 12:40, 19 July 2023 (UTC)

credibility

Hello, you wrote that my edits were not verifiable. I am not sure what your policy requires. In this instance I was working with Tony Athos when he helped create this 7 S model and my facts are based on my real time experience. I actually used the 7 S model in a class at Harvard Business School in 1981, probably one of the first times the model was ever used at Harvard. If you want me to cite someone else's work that is published, I could possibly look to some recent information that was published by Tom Peters, but I don't care to do that. You are simply asking me to cite what he remembers and in an article in 2019 he writes similar information. At the end of the article in what is currently online it does talk about the contributions from Tony Athos. It just doesn't mention tham at the top of the article which is all that people might read. That is why I wanted to make the changes I suggested.

Chuck Wolfe CjwEmotRd (talk) 15:27, 27 July 2023 (UTC)

@CjwEmotRd: as the message I left for you said, "Wikipedia articles should refer only to facts and interpretations verified in reliable, reputable print or online sources or in other reliable media." It is not sufficient for you to write something in Wikipedia's voice, based on your personal experiences, which readers cannot verify. Please see WP:V for the policy on this, which says "Even if you are sure something is true, it must be verifiable before you can add it." If you aren't willing to provide a source then your contribution won't be included. Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 15:39, 27 July 2023 (UTC)

Hi, actually I am suggesting the changes, not just based on my memory, but what is on the existing Wikipedia page. The correct information is already printed on your page, which says that Tony and Richard contributed to the authorship of the Model. It just doesn't appear at the top of your Wikipedia page where most people will stop reading. Since it is already accepted in your page, but towards the bottom, could you put it also on top.

Here is a quote from the 6th paragraph on the Wikipedia page under History.

"In 1980, Waterman joined Peters, and, along with Waterman's friend Tony Athos and Richard Pascale - both academics - came together at a two-day retreat in San Francisco to develop what would become known as the 7S Framework," CjwEmotRd (talk) 16:57, 27 July 2023 (UTC)

Thank you; I understand now. However, the lead section should be short, concise and summarise the key facts - see Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Lead section for the guideline. I don't think the sentences that you proposed adding belong in the lead, and I think the existing lead should probably be pared back a little - it seems to me that MBWA is somewhat tangential to be in the lead. Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 17:16, 27 July 2023 (UTC)

You are right. (MBWA) "Management By Walking Around" was a very clever idea Tom Peters wrote about in his book In Search of Excellence however it has nothing to do with the 7 S Model. To get the facts right you should get rid of that and replace it with the fact that Tony Athos, who Robert Waterman acknowledges as absolutely critical to the model's development should be listed as one of the authors. You do want to get this to be correct. CjwEmotRd (talk) 19:28, 27 July 2023 (UTC)

Ref Page Agri Sena

Hi,

Thank you for your feedback. You have mentioned "This submission is not adequately supported by reliable sources. Reliable sources are required so that information can be verified. ". The issue is Agri Sena was found in 1983 and there are not enough news articles available online. There are lot of social media sources available but i doubt if that would be considered as reliable source. Could you guide me on what i can present as reliable source? Thanks

regards,

dinesh Mhatrewiki (talk) 18:58, 29 July 2023 (UTC)

@Mhatrewiki: reliable sources don't have to be online - they can include books, newspapers, magazine articles, academic papers or journals. Social media sources don't really help. What we are looking for is the extent to which independent sources have written in depth about the organisation. Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 11:05, 31 July 2023 (UTC)

Hi Curb Safe Charmer,

Thank you for feedback. I added manifesto of Agri Sena i read from books "Nirdhar" and "Nirbhay" written on founder of Agri Sena Rajaram Salvi. However I got feedback that i am making and advertisement and that got deleted under speedy deletion. Later I took help of a similar organization page on wikipedia Kunabi Sena to write current content for Agri Sena. Do you think the current content looks good?

Regards,

Mhatrewiki Mhatrewiki (talk) 12:49, 31 July 2023 (UTC)

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Draft: Petzone

Hey so my article got rejected on basis of its lack of notability. I avoided trying to add more about the subject from obvious sources (like their website for example) as I do not want to use that as a direct reference. Also will adding images or a info box on the side improve the overall notable aspects of the page? Any help on this will be greatly appreciated. Averus19 (talk) 10:40, 31 August 2023 (UTC)

@Averus19: Wikipedia is an encyclopaedia, not a directory of companies. It only includes companies that are notable. You cannot fix a lack of notability. Please find another subject to write about. Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 10:54, 31 August 2023 (UTC)

Minors

Hi. You declined a draft that was clearly an autobiography of a minor; please see Wikipedia:Guidance_for_younger_editors#Your_safety_and_security_matters. That kind of content should not be here, and I'm going to delete it. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 16:17, 13 September 2023 (UTC)

• I think it was a bunch of schoolkids, using a half dozen accounts. What they don't realize, perhaps, is that they are endangering themselves by doing that... Drmies (talk) 16:24, 13 September 2023 (UTC)

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Shudhu Tomari

Hello, Just letting you know I deproDed that page and will try to improve it. Best, -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 21:26, 5 October 2023 (UTC)

ReFill RfC

Hi, recall Wikipedia:Village_pump_(proposals)/Archive_187#RfC:_Block_reFill_tool_until_fixed. I believe we left it that we would wait a year or so and see how things went. I'm considering another RfC, but before I do, I wanted to check how things are going. I looked at the Github page and see a few closed issues, outweighed by newly opened issues (since January 2022). There is some work being done, but it's hard to tell how substantial it is. A report from a new user of the tool is that it is "squirrely as f**k". Many rodents still alive, apparently. -- GreenC 17:23, 6 October 2023 (UTC)

reFill remains in need of developers. As you pointed out last time, a couple of people stepped forward but didn't actually do anything. A few months back, Folly Mox called for the underlying issues in Citoid, which is meant to be WMF-maintained, to be addressed. Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 07:05, 10 October 2023 (UTC)

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Draft:Mario Zamora Gastélum

here is the link https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Mario_Zamora_Gast%C3%A9lum bruh, check the mexicano wikipedia https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mario_Zamora_Gast%C3%A9lum 2604:3D09:A986:C700:4148:C20E:1E32:6747 (talk) 23:46, 18 October 2023 (UTC)

Marking AfC submissions as under review

Just wanted to let you know I unmarked Draft:Ubong Nse Thompson as being under review as it has been over ten days since then without the submission being accepted or declined. Deauthorized. ^(talk) 12:50, 22 October 2023 (UTC)

@Deauthorized fine; I had marked it as such because of Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Ekpestar Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 16:59, 22 October 2023 (UTC)

I left a comment linking to the SPI. Deauthorized. ^(talk) 17:08, 22 October 2023 (UTC)

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Nirim massacre

Are you aware that I moved that article to draftspace (per my edit summary) because it was a non EC ARBPIA creation. See Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard#A_few_further_examples. There is also NPOV controversy over the title. Polyamorph (talk) 19:35, 4 November 2023 (UTC)

@Polyamorph "If EC editors then want to take repsonsibility for them, then fine"? Re the title, let's have an article talk page discussion. Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 21:50, 4 November 2023 (UTC)

That's fine, just wanted to make sure you were aware. Someone can propose a move, if they wish to change the title, personally I've fulfilled all my obligations now. Cheers Polyamorph (talk) 22:08, 4 November 2023 (UTC)

Help and feedback on article Rosemarie Scolaro Moser

Thank you for your advice on using Google Scholar. I have since added another resource (Research Gate) as well as an article in Suburban Life-Philadelphia that covered my work. Please advise on how I can improve this page. Should I cut out more of it? Should I omit certain resources? I have looked at colleagues Jon Baron and Eileen Kennedy Moore pages and their sources are not as independent. Baron refers to his vita and Moore's seems lacking in support. Is this Moser page really hopeless? Thank you for your help. SportsNeuropsychology100 (talk) 15:43, 17 November 2023 (UTC)

ReFill

Hi. What is required to add Serbian, Serbocroatian, Croatian and Bosnian wikis to list of supported wikis? KrleNS (talk) 05:55, 19 November 2023 (UTC)

I have added major sources

Indont know im only getting rejected even though im only applying major sources :( 182.190.213.219 (talk) 22:30, 23 November 2023 (UTC)

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2601:646:200:43F0:B503:1BFB:4E74:B8BB (talk) 20:12, 2 December 2023 (UTC)

Just ran it. Seems fine to me. Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 06:35, 3 December 2023 (UTC)

hey there 🙂need your assistance

can you look at my article I think it's 100% perfect now to be ready

you can review citations. references and make some corrections if needs

I'll appreciate your help SaneFlint (talk) 17:54, 25 November 2023 (UTC)

hi

https://platform.almanhal.com/Files/2/101155 this references will be suitable? SaneFlint (talk) 14:27, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

Can I send you urdu references pages screenshots which you can translate thru a Google translator or any better one. and also look at them on references there?🙂

other editors seen them too like this SaneFlint (talk) 10:03, 30 November 2023 (UTC)

Ref 6 - https://ibb.co/px6xyZx

that's where you should be looking in Ref 6. just pointing to help out 🙂 SaneFlint (talk) 10:08, 30 November 2023 (UTC)

https://ibb.co/NrfvN4W that's screenshot to point to where to look about age /date of birth

reference https://archive.org/details/MajallahBahrulUloomMuhaddisUlAsarNoMuhibullahShahRashdi_201502 SaneFlint (talk) 10:13, 30 November 2023 (UTC)

https://ibb.co/F72cDt3

there

page 1 in ref 1.

other pages tells his story about Sindh Khilafat Movement especially page number 10

https://ibb.co/QmmPqpM but remember these are only screenshots which I took to point out where to look and ref 2 has alot more information with ref 1. SaneFlint (talk) 10:19, 30 November 2023 (UTC)

it seems translator hardly translate Arabic numerals. that's what is giving us problem

1313 27 Rajab Born

1358 15 Shaban Death SaneFlint (talk) 11:27, 30 November 2023 (UTC)

also in a quote its 13 October as ١٣ not 3 October. just letting you now 🙂

and I don't know how they translate Islamic calander properly ? my Islamic calander translators says 13 October and 13 September which is confusing me your help on it will be appreciated SaneFlint (talk) 11:30, 30 November 2023 (UTC)

one more worth nothing is that https://ibb.co/6gJLzNj there its mentioned in a Islamic calander as ١٣٥٨ -1358 H counts as 28 or 27 September I think there is a issue with calculation between hijri to

Gregorian calendar either wr calculate wrong or they calculate wrong but its worth being noted that In old time they only used to remember and write dates in Islamic calander SaneFlint (talk) 12:16, 30 November 2023 (UTC)

worth notice * SaneFlint (talk) 12:16, 30 November 2023 (UTC)

hi one more thing

when you search in (Urdu: سید احسان اللہ شاہ راشدی) you'll find his topics. also when you do search in Sindhi: احسان الله شاهه راشدي

you'll find topics about him. especially in urdu it's listed on Urdu Wikipedia too.🙂 SaneFlint (talk) 18:38, 1 December 2023 (UTC)

hi

Additionally, for more insights, consider searching for "Sayyid Ihsanullah Shah Rashdi" in Urdu, like( سید احسان اللہ شاہ راشدی)there is an article on Urdu Wikipedia. Many websites also use his name in Urdu and Sindhi. SaneFlint (talk) 16:43, 3 December 2023 (UTC)

I think Google translation has some errors or bugs but Sindhi and Urdu is relatively similar on its wording but talking way is different all these books are in urdu++ SaneFlint (talk) 18:51, 3 December 2023 (UTC)

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Draft:Joan Javits Zeeman

Sorry! I did not notice you were actively working on the draft. Happy to revert my decline. Just let me know. S0091 (talk) 20:26, 19 December 2023 (UTC)

@S0091: no problem - I would have declined for verifiability anyway. Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 20:30, 19 December 2023 (UTC)

She's likely notable. I might do some digging myself and/or post at Women in Red. S0091 (talk) 20:36, 19 December 2023 (UTC)

In the meantime I've created a redirect at Joan Javits Zeeman to Santa Baby. For WP:COMPOSER it looks like even if she only co-wrote one notable work they could be notable, or GNG could be met outright depending on coverage. Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 11:17, 20 December 2023 (UTC)

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Hi @Curb Safe Charmer, Happy new year! I hope this message finds you well. I was wondering how Urdu language can be added on ReFill? Looking forward to hearing from you. Best regards, ─ The Aafī (talk) 20:33, 31 December 2023 (UTC)

@TheAafi: Happy new year to you. Simple answer: I don't know... Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 15:57, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

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Draft article -- Retrieval Augmented Generation

Hello Charmer, thank you for your thoughts on the Draft submission. In the past, Wikipedia had stub articles so I thought my article would qualify for that type. Oh well, I will add more details to the article and re-submit it. Numiri (talk) 18:36, 8 February 2024 (UTC)

@Numiri: We do indeed have stubs, but we try to avoid having information on the same subject in two different places. It is better to expand the content we already have about RAG before starting a new article. You can then WP:SPLIT the article once there's too much about RAG within the existing article. 19:46, 8 February 2024 (UTC)

Request for Re-Review of Draft:Hana Knizova

I wanted to let you know that I've made some edits and improvements to the draft you reviewed. I have addressed the issues you mentioned regarding the lack of reliable sources and notability. Would you mind taking another look at the revised draft when you have a moment? Your insights are always appreciated.

Thank you for your time and assistance. Gardenchef19 (talk) 13:18, 28 February 2024 (UTC)

This has since been moved to mainspace by another reviewer. Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 19:33, 15 March 2024 (UTC)

Request on 07:21:29, 28 February 2024 for assistance on AfC submission by Sorbete de Cereza

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Hello! I'm wondering what exactly is wrong with the source I've used for this article; is it not sufficient? Is it an availability issue? Should I have used inline citations?

Sorbete de Cereza (talk) 07:21, 28 February 2024 (UTC)

@Sorbete de Cereza: You only have one source, which is a conference paper that according to Google Scholar has only been referenced four times.

Please add additional references from independent sources that cover the subject in-depth, allowing the reader to verify for themselves that the information is correct and also to satisfy the notability criteria for inclusion of the subject in the encyclopedia. Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 09:50, 28 February 2024 (UTC)

About my topic

Mr Curb Safe Charmer, i am here to talk to you about my article that i wrote about Abdul Salam al Bakr, you said to me that i need to search some better sources about him and the provided sources in the draft are the best sources online because there are a few sources about the aforementioned person so review my sources on last time and if not provided. post it and tag it with reference reviewing and by time, someone with better knowledge about the person could add his sources and thank you for reading Yousifali777 (talk) 17:50, 12 March 2024 (UTC)

@Yousifali777: Wikipedia should contain only facts about somebody which readers can verify in reliable published sources. Your draft seems to be based on what the subject has written or said, or based on your opinions. The burden to provide reliable sources for information lies with the editor that added the material (i.e. you) and can't be left to some other editor who comes along in future. If there aren't any published sources for what you have written, it doesn't belong in Wikipedia. Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 10:54, 14 March 2024 (UTC)

American Trial: The Eric Garner Story moved to draftspace

Thanks for your contributions to American Trial: The Eric Garner Story. Unfortunately, I do not think it is ready for publishing at this time because it has no sources. I have converted your article to a draft which you can improve, undisturbed for a while.

Please see more information at Help:Unreviewed new page. When the article is ready for publication, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page OR move the page back. Boleyn (talk) 16:11, 18 March 2024 (UTC)

@Boleyn: Hi. Thanks for the message, but this is not my article - I was just the AfC reviewer. I am not sure why you say "it has no sources" when it clearly does? Do you mean it has no inline citations? If so, I am not seeing any content requiring WP:MINREF? Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 16:18, 18 March 2024 (UTC)

Boleyn As you've not replied or taken any action, I'll move this back to mainspace. Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 12:30, 19 March 2024 (UTC)

This went to AfD and was kept. Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 17:26, 2 April 2024 (UTC)

About my topic

Hi Curb Safe Charmer, just wanted to reach out regarding my article on MillTechFX which you declined for creation.

Would greatly appreciate some pointers on how to get this uploaded!

Best ExmouthJ (talk) 17:28, 15 March 2024 (UTC)

@ExmouthJ: What's your connection to the company? Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 19:29, 15 March 2024 (UTC)

Help with the company's PR ExmouthJ (talk) 12:56, 19 March 2024 (UTC)