Cole1906

December 2011

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J. Cole → Isaac Cole

I notice you have changed J. Cole to Isaac Cole in a number of articles. The englandrl.co.uk makes reference to J. Cole which would idicate that his forename is not Isaac. Do you have any references to confirm his forename as Isaac? Are you a member of his family? Best Regards. DynamoDegsy (talk) 09:00, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

I am a direct descendant, who has researched his career over a number of years. I can provide evidence that he is indeed Isaac, not J. Cole as noted, if you could inform me as to what you require I'll be happy to supply. I was to contact Tony Collins to amend the RL page today, but would you complete this also? Thanks. --Cole1906 (talk) 12:02, 1 January 2012 (UTC)

A reference from a newspaper or matchday programme would be helpful. FreeBMD has an Isaac Cole born during April→June 1886 in Pontefract district, and an Isaac Cole dying during April→June 1940 in Halifax district, could these be your relative? Does Tony Collins have the permission to amend the englandrl.co.uk website? If so, there's a few other tweeks that need to be done. If you have enough detail, we could create Isaac Cole's own article. I'm in Wakefield if you like to pass your information onto me, I'd gladly help you create an article for him. Best Regards. DynamoDegsy (talk) 10:58, 2 January 2012 (UTC)

The references are for the same Isaac Cole. He was born on 9th April 1886, died 30th March 1940. Yorkshire post 18th Jan 1906 notes "Huddersfield have secured the sevices of Isaac Cole, the Castleford NU and Yorkshire County forward...". I'm unsure if Tony has permissions to change the website, but as he's the RL historian, he'll be able to direct the query appropriately. I've mailed him previously, do you want me to ask? It would be good to create Isaac's own article as I will have sufficient information and any help would be appreciated, just let me know what we need to do. Many thanks.--Cole1906 (talk) 22:15, 3 January 2012 (UTC)

I've knocked up an article for Isaac Cole, please feel to amend it, and add any references. Would you have details of his Yorkshire County appearances, would know whether he played for anyone other than Castleford and Huddersfield, would you have a photograph of Isaac Cole? Best Regards. DynamoDegsy (talk) 20:12, 4 January 2012 (UTC)

I've commenced update of the article re clubs played for & Yorkshire. I do have a photo with cap. How do you add references?--Cole1906 (talk) 20:13, 6 January 2012 (UTC)

There's a paragraph in the article that states... Upon signing for Wakefield Trinity on 1 February 1910, the game against Rochdale Hornets was cancelled due to the weather, resulting in them being unable to qualify him for the cup ties, although he did receive a winners medal. Would you know for which cup the winners medal was awarded? Wikipedia is very particular about the copyright of images, but as the image is likely to be pre-1923, it would be considered public domain in the United States. If you click on this... Isaac Cole.jpg, it should start you on your way to uploading the image, and I'll attempt to sort out the copyright stuff before the image gets deleted by Wikipedia administrators. Best Regards. DynamoDegsy (talk) 14:07, 3 February 2012 (UTC)

On the front of the medal it notes 'Yorkshire County Northern Rugby Football Union' inset with 'Challenge Cup'. The reverse states '1910-11, Wakefield Trinity F C, I Cole'. I'll take a photo of the medal and I Cole and follow the link. I should be able to do this tomorrow.--Cole1906 (talk) 19:37, 4 February 2012 (UTC)

From the information you have provided above, I believe the medal will be for Wakefield Trinity's 8–2 victory over Huddersfield in the 1910–11 Yorkshire Cup final. Would you know whether he also played in Huddersfield's 21–0 victory over Batley in the 1909–10 Yorkshire Cup final? I have a couple of other queries reading dates; The article states "Isaac Cole scored 6 tries playing on the wing for Huddersfield on 30 January 1907 in the 63-0 defeat of Liverpool City", the 30 January 1907 was a Wednesday, an unusual day for a rugby match, is this date correct? Also, the article states "In the benefit match played for Ernest Whitehouse, on 21 December 1919, Isaac Cole played for the defeated Billy Batten XIII versus Halifax by 6-16" the 21 December 1919 was a Sunday, a very unusual day for a rugby match, as sport wasn't generally allowed to be played on Sunday, is this date correct? Best Regards. DynamoDegsy (talk) 11:45, 6 March 2012 (UTC)

No, he didn't play in the first half of the 1909-10 season (still registered at Huddersfield) and transferred to Wakefield on 1st Feb 10, although he may have played for Castleford when they formed in December 1909 for a few games prior to signing for Wakefield. There is a poor photo of the team in the Cas & Pontefract Express with 'Cole' named but I can't prove it's Isaac, although the Knottingly cup tie fits with a family story. The 30th Jan 07 is taken from the RL Record Keepers Data. The 21 Dec 19 date, I'll recheck in the Cas & Pont. Express some time, it's not recorded in the Halifax paper of the time.--Cole1906 (talk) 21:09, 25 March 2012 (UTC)

I think the wording requires correction re the Huddersfield final, as whilst he was registered with them he wasn't playing and in respect of Wakefield he received the medal, but did not play in the final.--Cole1906 (talk) 21:21, 25 March 2012 (UTC)

Photo now attached.--Cole1906

January 2012

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