User talk:Cmglee

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File:Moon_landing_sites.svg

Fixed Apollo 11 date and added chronological order.

Hello Cmglee. Great image, but there's a typo to do with Apollo 11 landing date. It landed on 20 July 1969 (not 24th). I noticed due to looking up information about today's news of the death of Neil Armstrong. Bryandongray (talk) 23:41, 25 August 2012 (UTC)

Well-spotted, and thanks for bringing it to my attention, Bryandongray. I've fixed the typo and added numbers to indicate chronological order, as on the right. cmɢʟee☎✉ 20:05, 27 August 2012 (UTC)

Use of a Photo

Hi Cmglee. I am a freelance photo researcher working on a video for Travel and Leisure magazine about all the new attractions this summer (2012) in London. I would like to use your Wikimedia Commons photo of the outside of the Olympic Aquatics Centre for a short 1-2 second use in this upcoming Travel and Leisure video "London's Coolest Attractions". I will credit you as the author of this photo/Wikimedia Commons. Can you let me know if you have any issue or problems with this use? I can be reached at paula@gillenedits.com, thank you so much for posting this image in Wikimedia Commons. (GillenEdits (talk) 17:28, 12 July 2012 (UTC)) (UTC)

Hi Paula/GillenEdits. Sure, I'd be glad to contribute the photo under Wikimedia Commons' terms. Would you be able to post a link to your finished work here, please? cmɢʟee☎✉ 17:47, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

Thank you so much, I will post the link to the video as soon as it is live. best regards Paula Gillen — Preceding unsigned comment added by GillenEdits (talk • contribs) 20:10, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

Here is the Travel and Leisure video. Will be live for the month of August 2012. http://www.travelandleisure.com/articles/londons-cant-miss-sights (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 17:04, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

Many thanks, GillenEdits. Nice video! cmɢʟee☎✉ 20:46, 27 August 2012 (UTC)

Use of a Photo

Hi Cmglee. I am setting up a magazine, and would like to use a photograph you have added to Wikipedia for the cover on an issue. Could you please drop me an e-mail on editor@fenlandfocus.co.uk to discuss? Thanks Kep69 (talk) 19:06, 9 October 2011 (UTC)

Cambridge meetup!

Hi Cmglee, this is just to let you know of a proposed Cambridge meetup - suggested dates currently Saturday 18 October or Sunday 19th October. If you're interested, please give an idea of which day might be best for you there - & if you know of anyone else who might like to attend do let them know! (I love the library hours on the user page, btw!) Cheers, Dsp13 (talk) 14:24, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

File:Moon names.jpg

Hello Cmglee. Thank you for fixing image File:Moon names.jpg in January 2010. I have noticed that in that image Mare Fecunditatis is misspelled near the 3 o'clock position. Any chance you could fix it? -- Kheider (talk) 22:17, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

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Template:Dont overwrite (The above was a template, following is by a human.) Sorry to throw this template at you, you did upload a useful impovement at File:Fukushima I NPP 1975 medium crop.jpg, the only problem is the rotation lost all the image notes and changed the appearance of the thumbnails for existing users. I have moved your version to File:Fukushima I NPP 1975 medium crop rotated labeled.jpg so you may ignore the last part of the template above. -84user (talk) 00:25, 16 March 2011 (UTC)

March 2011

Thank you for your contributions. Please remember to mark your edits, such as your recent edits to Solar System, as "minor" only if they truly are minor edits. In accordance with Help:Minor edit, a minor edit is one that the editor believes requires no review and could never be the subject of a dispute. Minor edits consist of things such as typographical corrections, formatting changes, or rearrangement of text without modification of content. Additionally, the reversion of clear-cut vandalism and test edits may be labeled "minor". Thank you. In addition to not being a MINOR edit, I'm questioning the wisdom of changing formats from JPG to SVG, considering compatibility. — UncleBubba ^{( T @ C )} 02:37, 16 March 2011 (UTC)

Hi UncleBubba,

Thanks for your note. My bad for marking it minor; I thought minor is for when no text is changed. Re:

> In addition to not being a MINOR edit, I'm questioning the wisdom of changing formats from JPG to SVG, considering compatibility

I found the labels in the original JPEG too small to view in thumbnail mode though there is plenty of space available.

I've ensured that it renders well on the MediaWiki renderer and several modern browsers. Regardless, most Wikipedia readers will see the automatically rendered JPEG instead of the original unless they choose to view it.

Moreover, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Planets2008.jpg shows that it has been translated to several languages. My initiative lets editors easily translate it into their language without needing to fix the background.

Regards,

Cmglee (talk) 18:42, 16 March 2011 (UTC)

fukushima map

Hello,

can you please tell me the date of the radation measurements in this map?

-- PM3 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.32.150.219 (talk) 00:41, 27 March 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for your answer. I have added March 15 as date of measurements to the file description. -- PM3 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.32.166.54 (talk) 12:45, 28 March 2011 (UTC)

Template:Distance from Sun using EasyTimeline

Hi. I recently came across this template and noticed that Mercury and Eris lead to disambiguation pages. However, try as I might, I could not edit the template successfully so as to disambiguate the links. Perhaps you will better know how to manipulate EasyTimeline to achieve this? It Is Me Here ^{t / c} 16:28, 28 April 2011 (UTC)

Hi It Is Me Here. Thanks for pointing it out and trying to fix the links. I've fixed the links using [[Mercury_(planet)|Mercury]] and [[Eris_(dwarf_planet)|Eris]] as EasyTimeline seems to fail on spaces in links. Please let me know if there are any other improvements to be made. cmɢʟee☺τaʟκ 19:14, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

WikiProject East Anglia

Would you be interested in WikiProject East Anglia?

If yes, please support us here at Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals/East Anglia. Wilbysuffolk talk 13:08, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

I'll tentatively say yes, though I couldn't find out from the proposal page how you'd like supporters to help. I can contribute photographs and illustrations especially of Cambridge and surrounding villages. Please let me know if you'd like me to help in something specific. cmɢʟee☺τaʟκ 18:13, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

Any help will be fantastic at the moment though I need lots of helping making Wikipedia:WikiProject East Anglia. Thanks for joining. Wilbysuffolk talk 18:20, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

First thing I noticed about Wikipedia:WikiProject East Anglia is that the brown background makes the text very hard to read (on Vector skin). Mind if I make it white or brighter? cmɢʟee☺τaʟκ 18:23, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

Nope, Fine with me. Wilbysuffolk Talk to me 19:36, 8 June 2011 (UTC)

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This is the first East Anglian Newsletter. We have set up the project page and templates with help from Thomas888b (Creator of WikiProject Essex). At last count we have got 41 articles and templates. We may merge with WikiProject Essex and Cambridge. Please visit our projects talk page to submit your opinion on it. We have already merged with King's Lynn. We will hopefully soon set up the following task forces: Suffolk,Norfolk,Cambridgeshire, Peterborough, Essex & Cambridge (If/When they get merged) and East Anglian Transport.

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Meow!

Really amazing contributions you have on your user page there! I’m particularly impressed with the way you use diagrams, drawings and other graphical representations to portray interesting and important information. Keep it up!

Timwi (talk) 20:10, 30 June 2011 (UTC)

Time pyramid

Great image, really good! Well done. Calistemon (talk) 00:54, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

Thank You's

re: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Comparison_disk_storage.svg Excellent, deft compact display of layered information! Thanks! 70.254.44.105 (talk) 13:22, 14 July 2011 (UTC)

Thanks :) Glad you found it useful! cmɢʟee☺τaʟκ 22:08, 14 July 2011 (UTC)

Possible Manhattenhenge pic

Take a look at Talk:Manhattanhenge#Mockup_of_what_you_could_try and let me know what you think Egg Centric 16:20, 21 July 2011 (UTC)

File:Ship measurements comparison.svg

Comparison of bounding box of Q-max with some other ship sizes in isometric view.

Thanks for File:Ship measurements comparison.svg! Is Q-Max really unlimited draft? Slide 27 of this lists it as 12m draft. Thanks! (update: this says Ras Laffan Port is the limit; this lists 12.5m draft) 165.170.128.66 (talk) 16:01, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the note. I've updated the image (as on the right) and Q-Max#Technical_description. cmɢʟee☺τaʟκ 00:17, 30 July 2011 (UTC)

File: Thin_lens_images.svg

Fixed!

Hello Cmglee,

I believe this image is incorrect: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Thin_lens_images.svg

The letters on the right side should only be inverted vertically, not horizontally. I could do the calculations, but one way to see it is that if the letters were flipped horizontally it would imply that light from the back of the letter reaches your eye first, which is not the case.

Otherwise, the image is very useful. Keep up the good work!

DaedalusInfinity (talk) 00:59, 9 August 2011 (UTC)

Well-spotted and thanks, DaedalusInfinity. I've fixed the SVG. Let me know if you find any other errors. cmɢʟee☺τaʟκ 12:26, 9 August 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the SVG fix!

I noticed your edit on the SVG source of this file, and I was really impressed. I could tell from your user page that you extensively create/modify pictures on Wikipedia, including vector graphics. Glad that you improved mine this time, truly appreciate it.

If you don't mind, could you help me with the other 3 SVG graphics? I'm referring to this, this and this. All those graphics were made manually, meaning I was arranging those hexagons, naming them and trimming coordinates in the source, so that file sizes were kept small. I believe there is a way to create this sort of diagrams less painstakingly, just that I haven't come across it.

Could you advise me on representing by-elections clearly in the diagrams? Should texts be added for that matter? Also, what do you think about these pictures being transferred to Commons, with additional 2 sets of translated versions, in Bahasa Melayu and Chinese? Hytar (talk) 08:56, 17 August 2011 (UTC)

Demonstration of suggestions

Thanks for the kind words, Hytar; I try my best :)

I would find labels for the by-elections useful, but do get a second opinion. I prefer multiple layers of information in a single diagram but some Wikipedians find mine too cluttered.

I normally upload my images to Commons, though they have stricter policies e.g. on the corporate logos you've made.

I've done similar changes to the 3 images you linked. I must say I really like your idea of using hexagons for equal-area representation and also using more saturated colours with a border to show changes.

Did you use a script or program to generate the SVG? If not, kudos on your great effort! Here are some suggestions to reduce the work:

1. Write a script. I use Perl to generate mine.
2. Use defs blocks and xlink:href to make each hexagon a separate unit which you can place using the transform attribute.
3. "Cheat" by approximating hexagons with squares with corners cut off, so their coordinates are much simpler.

These techniques are in used in this SVG image.

Let me know if you'd like to collaborate on any new SVG visualisations you have in mind.

cmɢʟee☺τaʟκ 12:53, 17 August 2011 (UTC)

>== Re: SVG Check ==

Yes, all sound like good suggestions.

Unfortunately I'm very busy at the moment for various reasons. This means I've worked up a large backlog of "features I'd like to implement" :( (In fairness, this is also because I get new bugs in my inbox most days, and I devote time to fixing them as soon as I know about them.)

If you file a JIRA feature request, then at least your good suggestions won't get lost, even if it takes me a while to get round to doing anything about them (I do apologise for this, I just try to be realistic about these things). To do so, you have to register first (your Wikipedia login details won't "just work" unfortunately), then the "New feature request" button is fairly obvious.

Sorry to not be of more use, Grandiose (me, talk, contribs) - Jarry1250 ^{[Weasel? Discuss.]} 19:02, 19 August 2011 (UTC)

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Malaysia history chart

Hey, I just noticed the improvements you made to the Malaysia history, and am dropping this note to say good work. Colouring the columns and making a similar colour coded map was an extremely novel idea, and it works brilliantly. Cheers, Chipmunkdavis (talk) 16:19, 13 September 2011 (UTC)

Carpet cleaning

Hey,

I thought it was useful because it gave people a way to find a carpet cleaner (which is really one of the biggest reasons they visited the page). Further, the site is not selling any products.

Cheers,

Pragmatically — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pragmatically (talk • contribs) 01:35, 16 September 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for your speedy reply and clarification, Pragmatically. While I appreciate that you may be trying to be helpful to people who want to clean their carpets, Wikipedia is meant to be an encyclopedia, not a how-to guide. I think WikiHow is a much more suitable place for your contribution. Thanks for your understanding! cmɢʟee☺τaʟκ 18:41, 16 September 2011 (UTC)

Hi,

I would assume post people go to the carpet cleaning article to find out how to clean their carpet, no?

Cheers — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pragmatically (talk • contribs) 21:23, 17 September 2011 (UTC)

That might be our assumption, but the policy has been decided by the community as documented here. If you wish to challenge it, try discussing this at the Village Pump. cmɢʟee☺τaʟκ 21:40, 17 September 2011 (UTC)

Barber's pole

Nice pic! Happy editing. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 13:52, 12 October 2011 (UTC)

Use of a photo

Hi Cmglee!

I'd like permission to use your photo (http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Berjaya_Times_Square_theme_park.jpg) for a blog post i'm posting on Theme Parks in Asia. It's a new website so I don't have the URL yet. I'll credit of course and can link to your wikipedia page. Do let me know if you have any concerns at karl.bustamante [at] sambaash.com.

Many thanks!

08:26, 20 October 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.92.72.130 (talk)

Thanks for the note, Karl. Sure, feel free to use it! cmɢʟee'τaʟκ'maιʟ 11:55, 20 October 2011 (UTC)

2nd WikiProject East Anglia Newsletter

This is the second WikiProject East Anglian Newsletter. We have got 1,908 articles with our banner and a bot will be off soon distributing the banner to mainly Suffolk, Norfolk and Cambridgeshire talk page (Essex has been done) and have now got 13 members. We will soon fully merge with Cambridgeshire project. We need a bit of help assesing pages (about 100 need doing) but other wise we are progressing well.

Thanks for reading,
Wilbysuffolk Talk to me 20:19, 21 October 2011 (UTC) (UTC)

Barnstar

		The Graphic Designer's Barnstar
		Thank you for adding so many valuable graphics to Wikipedia! Chris (talk) 21:36, 27 October 2011 (UTC)

Thanks, Chris. Let me know if you'd like something illustrated!
cmɢʟee'τaʟκ'maιʟ 17:05, 28 October 2011 (UTC)

Edits

Hello, can I ask you to please undo some of the changes in this edit? It looks like it was a revert of my revert (without explanation), and per WP:BRD, these should be discussed before being repeated. The colour coding is fantastic, but you've changed the column titles and repeated alot of changes that I reverted. Also, why have you removed diacritics from names (even in quotations)? This pushes the reader through redirects...

...Although I've just noticed that I've put "Supportiveive" instead of the "supportive" that was agreed upon on the talk page (a mistake). Thanks, Nightw 14:04, 1 November 2011 (UTC)

Thanks mate. Appreciate it. Nightw 21:11, 1 November 2011 (UTC)

That's quick; I was going to reply after fixing the page. Sorry about the mess-up, Nightw. I didn't realise my text editor corrupts non-ANSI characters and your changes were lost due to the merge conflict.

I've tried to restore the section to the state before I edited it, except the following:

1. Colour-coding, giving more width to the Further Details column, and removing unused style attributes (my original intentions)
2. Restoring the headings -- I think "Position" and especially "Rec." are not descriptive enough
3. Restoring "Support" and "Oppose" -- I think "Supportive" and "Against" are unnecessarily long
4. Restoring a reference for Bosnia-Herzegovina removed without explanation

Hope that's ok now! cmɢʟee'τaʟκ'maιʟ 21:24, 1 November 2011 (UTC)

After reading the discussion on the Talk page, I've changed Support/Supporting to Supportive and Oppose to Against. cmɢʟee'τaʟκ'maιʟ 21:35, 1 November 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, looks good. Thanks for taking the time to review. And thanks for editing the table as I consider it an improvement. Regarding the headings, I think a key will probably be added to better explain the table (will do so myself as soon as I get a chance), so don't worry about that for now. I deliberately removed the reference for the Bosnian position because it was attributed to the Israeli government (not appropriate given the context). You were right to add that back since I didn't give an explanation in my edit summary. I've tagged it with an explanation, will remove it again tomorrow if nobody objects. Not a big deal. Thanks again, Nightw 21:43, 1 November 2011 (UTC)

Thanks too. I'm done editing the page and shall leave it to you and others to improve it :) Have a good day! cmɢʟee'τaʟκ'maιʟ 21:48, 1 November 2011 (UTC)

Transparent Background

Hi Cmglee. You do really nice work. I was wondering if the image found here http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Ideal_projectile_motion_for_different_angles.svg could be uploaded with a transparent background? Bruhow (talk) 23:12, 8 November 2011 (UTC)Bruhow

Thanks, Bruhow. I've made the background transparent and improved the scale on the ground. Incidentally, could you forward me to a document that explains why it should be transparent? Wikipedia:Preparing_images_for_upload does not explain it. I can understand it lets images be used on different backgrounds without unsightly borders, but for graphs (especially colourful ones like this one), wouldn't that make certain parts unreadable? The white background guarantees that this cannot happen. cmɢʟee'τaʟκ'maιʟ 13:05, 9 November 2011 (UTC)

US standard atmosphere

Hi, the current version of the US standard atmosphere is 1976, not 1962. I think it would be better to use the current data for the articles you just added your 1962 image to. Q Science (talk) 06:10, 12 November 2011 (UTC)

Hi Q Science, I'm aware of that, but could not find any suitable graph of all 4 properties to trace. If you have one, or know the vertices of a piecewise-linear function (or quadratic/cubic Bezier curve), please let me know. Nevertheless, since NASA used it for their Centennial of Flight site, it shows at least some acceptance of the 1962 model. cmɢʟee'τaʟκ'maιʟ 15:57, 12 November 2011 (UTC)

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Thanks for good work! And, problem with Sagittarius A* graphic

Hi! Seems like you've done a bunch of really good work here - thanks! I just found what I think is a problem with your (otherwise most excellent) graphic on the star orbits around Sagittarius A*, the black hole at the center of the Milky Way. See the talk page at Sagittarius A*. I didn't want to fool around with your graphic, so I just documented what I think are the errors, and suggested improvements, there. Hope I'm right, and I hope you can fix them (assuming they need fixing) - have a look. thanks - lanephil Lanephil (talk) 21:13, 20 December 2011 (UTC)

Hi Lanephil, thanks for the compliments and feedback. It's really perceptive of you! I've replied to your comments on Talk:Sagittarius_A*#Problem_with_x-axis_scale_in_.22Galactic_centre_orbits.svg.22_graphic.3F. I hope you don't mind my splitting your message into paragraphs for greater readability. cmɢʟee'τaʟκ'maιʟ 18:30, 23 December 2011 (UTC)

Tensegrity

What is the simplest structure having ten struts? Kittybrewster ☎ 09:53, 24 December 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, no idea. As the number of possible structures increases exponentially with the number of struts, it may be unfeasible to get a definitive answer. cmɢʟee'τaʟκ'maιʟ 12:05, 29 December 2011 (UTC)

File:Comparison_satellite_navigation_orbits.svg

I don't know what made you use Mm (Megametre? Megamillimetre?) instead of km (kilometre) in this diagram, but may I ask you to correct it? (Unless I'm missing something.) Thanks! Nageh (talk) 14:22, 29 December 2011 (UTC)

The megametre is a perfectly valid unit in the metric system and is equivalent to 1000 km. I would have used "x000 km" instead, if there had been sufficient space in the diagram. cmɢʟee'τaʟκ'maιʟ 18:35, 29 December 2011 (UTC)

Ack. I was being stupid, that's all. I was relating miles with metres (instead of kilometres) for a moment, which made me wonder where the 'M' came from. Thanks for the diagram then! Nageh (talk) 19:09, 29 December 2011 (UTC)

Tensegrity graphics

Hi, FYI:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Tensegrity#Distracting_animations

Wondered if you might be interested in doing this. Regards, 86.167.19.92 (talk) 18:26, 2 January 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for bringing it to my attention. I've replied on that page.

Orchard Park piccies

Hi. We seem to disagree on the pictures in the Orchard Park article. I've started a discussion at Talk:Orchard Park, Cambridgeshire which I invite you to contribute to. Cheers! Ilikeeatingwaffles (talk) 22:56, 2 January 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, Ilikeeatingwaffles. I've replied on that page. cmɢʟee☎✉ 13:19, 3 January 2012 (UTC)

Image request

Cycadeoidea marylandica fossil at the National Museum of Natural History.

Hello once again! I'm not sure if you're interested enough in biology to do this, but would it be possible for you to create a reconstruction of the Cycadeoidea plant? I've listed it at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Palaeontology/Paleoart review, but some entries there have been stale for years. Chris the Paleontologist (talk • contribs) 23:06, 19 January 2012 (UTC)

Hi, Chris. To be honest, I don't think I've the necessary skills to redraw http://taggart.glg.msu.edu/isb200/cycadl3.gif . How about using one of the existing pictures of fossils at http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ASearch&search=Cycadeoidea (like the one on the right) or http://www.mgs.md.gov/esic/brochures/fossils/trias.html (dating from 1906, I think the drawing is in public domain), or linking to http://www.turbosquid.com/FullPreview/Index.cfm/ID/285729 (I'm not sure what Product License: Standard Royalty Free means). cmɢʟee☎✉ 18:57, 20 January 2012 (UTC)

Sorry for bothering you with this one; I wasn't aware of the existence of those images. I'll look harder next time. Thanks for pointing them out anyway, though. Chris the Paleontologist (talk • contribs) 20:52, 20 January 2012 (UTC)

No worries — glad to help! cmɢʟee☎✉ 11:25, 21 January 2012 (UTC)

Addition of Comparison angular diameter image to Solar eclipse

I find this image redundant for the article. The article already has a chart showing the different apparent sizes of the sun and moon as seen from earth and I think the chart is easier to see what is going on than with your graph which seems to me a bit cluttered with all the circles so close together. In short I don't see how it adds to the article what isn't already there, furthermore I don't think it conveys very well, visually, the apparent sizes. Before I remove it, I figure it would be nice to get your feedback on my criticisms. Thanks. --TimL (talk) 01:33, 27 January 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the note, TimL. I understand that there's a chart showing the apparent sizes (I made it!) but I find it very difficult to distinguish the sizes from the thumbnails; I suppose it's below my threshold of just-noticeable difference, whereas I find the image makes it clearer. Would it be less cluttered if only the sun and moon (and not the planets and ISS) are shown? cmɢʟee☎✉ 13:05, 28 January 2012 (UTC)

thanks for the reply. In the chart, the moon seems quite visibly diffrent in size, the sun, not at all. So I partly agree with you about the chart. However, if one looks at the chart they can see the Sun's angular diameter varies very little, thus explaining why they look the same size in the chart. The problem I see with your diagram is all the circles are to thin and too close together to easily tell apart. Perhaps you could "zoom in" on part of the "disk" and create a figure showing just an arc (representing part of the full disk of sun and moon rather than the whole disk) whereby the differences in angular diameter could be "magnified" so to speak, leaving it an exercise for the reader to imagine the whole disk if they would like, which I think would be fine. Thoughts? --TimL (talk) 12:47, 1 February 2012 (UTC)

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Historic Coventry edit-a-thon at Herbert Art Gallery and Museum, Coventry

Historic Coventry Edit-a-thon - You are invited!

The Herbert Art Gallery and Museum is hosting an edit-a-thon on Saturday 31 March 2012. 15 Wikimedians will have to learn more about "historic Coventry". The day will centre upon editing, however and we aim to improve the coverage of Coventry's illustrious history on Wikimedia projects. For more information and to sign up, see the event page. We hope you'll join us! Rock drum Ba-dumCrash 20:54, 20 March 2012 (UTC)

A preserved fruit bat showing how the skeleton fits inside its skin.

A preserved turtle skeleton showing how the carapace connects with the rest of the skeleton.

Thanks, Rock drum for the invitation but sadly I can't make this Sat.

Since you and User:HJ Mitchell are active in GLAM, I wonder if you've come across the Horniman Museum which I wholeheartedly recommend, especially due to their idea of comparing the same class of artifact from different cultures. They pride themselves to be a teaching museum, so may be keener than most to open their doors to Wikimedia. Sadly, I don't have a contact there, but their guides seemed quite open to ideas.

On my last visit, I photographed some specimens with skins/shells cleverly sectioned to show how the underlying skeleton relates to the rest of the animal (something I'd not seen before), as in these examples. Because they were behind glass, there were many reflections, and I could not get better angles. I think these are excellent illustrations of assorted animal anatomy, as I've done for turtle shell and bat#Wings. Under GLAM, the museum may briefly open the cabinets for someone to take better pictures.

I should thank both of you for your devotion to GLAM. Not many people would be willing to spend their time and effort organising such events. Keep up the great work!

cmɢʟee☎✉ 17:47, 28 March 2012 (UTC)

Comparison highest mountains graphic

Very impressive work on this graphic [[1]]. I just saw your additions of it to the mountain lists. Overall I like it, but it could use some improvements. A couple things that jump out:

The use of the question mark really needs to go. It should be another symbol. The question mark being there makes it seems as though the author or someone is questioning the data or indicating that we are unsure about something.

Since Everest/K2 are members of both the 8000ers and the Seven Summits/Seven Second Summits, it would be nice if there was a more prominent way of indicating this fact on the graphic. Maybe with a unique color code or something just for these two peaks.

Just my own initial thoughts for now. Thnx --RacerX¹¹ Talk to me^{Stalk me} 00:36, 5 April 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, Racerx11. I struggled to find symbols I could use. Strangely, non-ASCII characters e.g. † (dagger) failed to display in Firefox. Can you suggest some appropriate ASCII symbols? I thought the symbols were sufficient to show which sets each peak belongs to, and used colours to denote continents. How about if I use increased saturation to indicate the Seven Summits/Seven Second Summits? cmɢʟee☎✉ 12:22, 5 April 2012 (UTC)

How about asterisk * and caret ^ or asterisk * and double **, any of those would be better imo, if they work. I see now that you used the color coding to denote continent. That makes sense so never mind about Everest and K2 with their own color, unless... It occurs to me if you color coded by list, one color for eight-thousanders, one for seven summits and a third for second seven, then it would make sense to have a fourth shade just for Everest and K2 to indicate membership in more than one list. Additionally you could could have different shades for Bass and Messner which would solve the non-ascii symbol problem. --RacerX¹¹ Talk to me^{Stalk me} 17:56, 5 April 2012 (UTC)

Sorry, when I wrote the above, I wasn't considering that you were already using * and ^. I was just now trying to work it all out and come up with a scheme that solves everything. My mind started swimming. The more I look at it, the more I realize with what you were trying to do, what you have now is about the best it could have been. Just thinking out loud now. Could you color code for each list, including for Bass and Messner, or use * and ^ if needed, and then simply state the continents by name in text? Would that work?--RacerX¹¹ Talk to me^{Stalk me} 15:08, 6 April 2012 (UTC)

I think have something I would prefer: Use just three colors. One for each list. Then use ^ to denote Messner and * to denote Bass for both of the seven summit lists. Simply enter the continents using text below each mountain name. So for example Mount Townsend would be colored using the seven second summits color and the text would look like:

Mount Townsend*

2209 m

Australia*(asterisk optional here)

(with * denoting Bass list)

As for Everest and K2 belonging to more than one list. Make the triangular peak graphic a two-toned image for those two peaks only. For example, one half of K2's triangle would be colored with the eight-thousander color and the other half colored with the seven second summits color. Follow me? Wouldn't that work or am I overlooking something? --RacerX¹¹ Talk to me^{Stalk me} 15:37, 6 April 2012 (UTC)

Wow, thanks for putting so much thought into this, RacerX11. I like your 3-colour image idea, except that it might be confusing for Everest and K2 to be half one colour and half another. I could stripe them as in File:Prevailing world religions map.png, but I think I've an idea where it's the labels that are grouped (though requiring Everest and K2 to have repeated labels). Give me about 3 hours to come up with something... cmɢʟee☎✉ 15:47, 6 April 2012 (UTC)

Great! My suggestions are mostly intended as food-for-thought or maybe something that would strike you as a good idea to improve on. Will wait to see what you come up with. Take as much time as you need. No one is in a hurry over this. --RacerX¹¹ Talk to me^{Stalk me} 16:07, 6 April 2012 (UTC)

Comparison of the heights of the Eight-thousanders, Seven Summits and Seven Second Summits.

What do you think of this? cmɢʟee☎✉ 19:46, 6 April 2012 (UTC)

I like it, very much! The text is much cleaner without too many supscripts. Less potential for confusion. I would be fine with going live with this version. You apparently have a knack for this sort of thing. You have done some great work :) --RacerX¹¹ Talk to me^{Stalk me} 20:09, 6 April 2012 (UTC)

Many thanks for the kind compliment and Barnstar. I couldn't have done it without your recommendations and feedback, RacerX11. Guess this shows the power of collaborative editing of Wikipedia :) Let me know if you'd like to work on anything together. Have a good day! cmɢʟee☎✉ 14:30, 7 April 2012 (UTC)

Sure, and the next time I see a need for a new or better graphic, I will certainly keep you mind. --RacerX¹¹ Talk to me^{Stalk me} 14:52, 7 April 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you

		The Graphic Designer's Barnstar
		In recognition of the fine work you do. RacerX11 Talk to meStalk me 22:46, 6 April 2012 (UTC)

Saw one on this page, but if you don't have the alternate version, here you go! --RacerX¹¹ Talk to me^{Stalk me} 22:46, 6 April 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Graphic Designer's Barnstar
	For your I'm honoured to award you this. A great addition! Qwrk (talk) 14:18, 20 April 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the barnstar

Hi, thanks for the barnstar. My first ever !

Just a note on the sRGB data for the ColorChecker card, there are a couple of people in the external links on that article [ Bruce Linbloom and Danny Pascale and both seem to know what they are talking about] and from what I can make out they both conclude that the manufacturer's sRGB data isn't particularly accurate.

I wanted to added Bruce Lindbllom's sRGB data to the article but I don't quite know how to justify including his data [is he a keen amateur or a credible source of info on the topic? Or both!] He has links on quite a few Wikipedia articles to do with colorimetry etc. I'd be fairly sure he knows his stuff but I can't quite get my head around citing his data.

Anyway, thanks again for the barnstar.Sun Ladder (talk) 11:41, 21 April 2012 (UTC)

You're welcome, and thanks for the note, Sun Ladder. I've read some articles by Bruce Lindbloom and he indeed seems quite knowledgeable. In this case, I'm unsure what the best approach is, too. I would open the topic to general debate on the ColorChecker talk page by copying what you wrote above there (I can do that for you if you like). If there's no reply in several days and you feel strongly about it, perhaps you could add his data to the ColorChecker article with a reference? Just a thought... cmɢʟee☎✉ 12:09, 23 April 2012 (UTC)

Comparison angular diameter image for Solar eclipse

Fixed Sun labels

Hi. Unlike one of the previous commentators, I think this image is a terrific addition to the Solar eclipse article. However ...

The caption stating the maximum and minimum angular diameter of the sun (in actual numerals) cannot be correct because it indicates that the maximum diameter is less than the minimum. I would correct this if I knew how, which I do not.

Furthermore (but less important) the numbers shown do not correspond exactly to what is shown in the table of values within the Solar eclipse article itself, even if they were to be reversed, as apparently they should be. This is a less interesting issue than the reversal, since the discrepancy of the values is small, although I do not know the source of this discrepancy. Paul (talk) 22:19, 28 May 2012 (UTC)

p.s. By the way, you do great work on a variety of images, which have become some of the highlights of Wikipedia. Paul (talk) 22:19, 28 May 2012 (UTC)

Thanks and well-spotted, Paul. I've fixed the labels as on the right. The values in the graphic were from the How long will we continue to be able to see total eclipses of the Sun? answer at NASA, but there is a mistake: "...the Sun's angular diameter varies from 32.7 minutes of arc when the Earth is at its farthest point in its orbit (aphelion), and 31.6 arc minutes when it is at its closest (perihelion)." It should appear smaller when farther, so the values should be swapped. I've updated the table and noted this mistake. cmɢʟee☎✉ 13:11, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the fix. For a minute there, it appeared that the values in the image caption were still wrong, but in reality I simply needed a judicious dose of "F5" (refresh). And then it was all clarified. Paul (talk) 19:43, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

Panamerican Peaks

Thanks for the great graphic. In 2009-2010 I embarked on my adventure of a lifetime called Panamerican Peaks: Cycling between Alaska and Patagonia (Panamerican Highway) and Climbing the highest peaks of every country along the way.

As it turns out, there are 14 countries, and so I wondered whether you could help me create a graphic comparing those 14 Panamerican Peaks with the 7 Summits and 7 Second Summits. (Four of them are identical: Denali, Logan, Ojos, Aconcagua). Below is a list of the country, peak, height data. You can also find info about this project (photos, videos, stories, etc.) on my website panamericanpeaks dot com

Seq     Country Peak    Altitude
1       United States   Denali  6194
2       Canada  Logan   5959
3       Mexico  Orizaba 5636
4       Guatemala       Tajumulco       4220
5       El Salvador     El Pital        2730
6       Honduras        Las Minas       2849
7       Nicaragua       Mogoton 2106
8       Costa Rica      Chirripo        3819
9       Panama  Baru    3475
10      Colombia        Cristobal Colon 5776
11      Ecuador Chimborazo      6267
12      Peru    Huascaran       6768
13      Chile   Ojos del Salado 6893
14      Argentina       Aconcagua       6962

You can also email me directly: [email address removed]

Many thanks in advance.

Cheers,

Thomas Laussermair.

File:comparison_of_highest_mountains.svg adapted for User:tlausser.

Thanks. I've replaced the Eight-thousanders of File:comparison_of_highest_mountains.svg with your list. If you know the Perl programming language, you can extract the Perl code at the bottom of the SVG file and make your own graphic, too. Congratulations, by the way, on your successful climb! cmɢʟee☎✉ 20:12, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

Hi Cmglee,

Thanks for turning this around so quickly. I see from the svg file that you just had to replace the driver table for your Perl script and some of the color assignments. Pretty nifty script there - have never written Perl myself.

Did you start out with a drawing tool (like Adobe Illustrator), save in .svg and then refine with Perl? Or did you start from scratch with Perl?

On the color assignments, perhaps one could use the green and blue (for North and South American Panamerican Peaks) instead of the yellow. ::Also, the fact that Denali (=McKinley) and Logan are listed multiple times is a bit confusing.

Anyway, I added it to my most recent Blog post at http://visualign.wordpress.com

Thanks again,

Thomas.

Thomas Laussermair

Hi Thomas,

Thanks. I just visualised it on paper and directly wrote the Perl script to plot it. Of course, the design changed quite a bit as I went along.

If you wish to fix the graphic or plot your own mountains, first get a copy of Perl (I recommend ActivePerl) and a Perl tutorial. Knowing how obfuscated Perl can be, I've tried to write it as simply as possible. If all you want to change are the mountains and colour assignments, just edit the string $data_string and hashtable %continents. Each line in $data_string corresponds to one mountain belonging to one of the continents (loosely used to mean "category"). The fields, delimited by "|" are

1. x-coordinate of centre of mountain and label
2. y-coordinate of baseline of label
3. continent code
4. rank in continent
5. height in metres
6. name

They are plotted in the specified order, so earlier ones appear "behind" later ones. The %continents structure should be self-explanatory.

Good luck! cmɢʟee☎✉ 23:19, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

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Thanks for your kind words.

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Seven Second Summits map

Hello again. The map you have added at Seven Second Summits has a small issue for me. It indicates Puncak Trikora as the second highest point of Australasia/Oceania/New Guinea, (Messner list). The discussion about Puncak Mandala vs Trikora as the true second highest is at Talk:Seven Second Summits#List may be incorrect. The consensus reached from that discussion was that Mandala is higher and we made made all the changes in all related articles based on the best information from reliable sources we could find. We have also left notes on certain articles explaining that the two peaks are very close in height and some sources may list Trikora as higher and/or being a member of the Messner list. The most recent and accurate data does support Mandala being higher (note however, user:Viewfinder does add that this is "not 100% conclusive").

So alas the map is somewhat contradicting what the article currently states. Possible solutions:

• 1) Edit article to explain or reflect what the map indicates.
• 2) Replace map with one that instead, displays Mandala as #2.
• 3) Simply delete the map.

Thoughts? --RacerX¹¹ Talk to me^{Stalk me} 01:34, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

Well spotted, Racerx11. I took the image from the French page. I've added a note in the caption with a link to the talk page. Hope that helps! cmɢʟee☎✉ 11:54, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

I have replaced the link to the discussion, with an inline citation—a better way to support your note I believe. Thanks! --RacerX¹¹ Talk to me^{Stalk me} 03:04, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

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See http://www.gutenberg-e.org/kirkbride/chapter1.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.107.37.101 (talk) 21:19, 14 July 2012 (UTC) Since you like architecture, also "Diagramming Architecture", Francis Ching "Form and space in architecture" 81.107.37.101 (talk) 22:01, 14 July 2012 (UTC)

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Detail of the front facade of the Judge Business School, Cambridge, UK.

Fisheye stiched panorama of the rear aspect of the Judge Business School, Cambridge, UK.

Do you have any more photos of the Judge Institute, especially close ups? I found out yesterday that poor old John Outram didn't have a wiki page, so have been hastily trying to cobble one together. There's a nice building of his round the back too, if memory serves. Pete.boardman (talk) 20:57, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

Hi, Pete. Well done in writing up the article. I've uploaded the following photos of the Judge. Hope they are useful! cmɢʟee☎✉ 21:01, 15 September 2012 (UTC)

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Thanks, Charles. That looks useful! cmɢʟee☎✉ 12:14, 21 November 2012 (UTC)

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g function - wrong direction

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Comparison_convolution_correlation.svg on the Convolution part the g function (red line) is probably skewed in the wrong direction. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.206.22.43 (talk) 01:10, 4 December 2012 (UTC)

I started a thread at Wikipedia:Reference_desk/Mathematics#File:Comparison_convolution_correlation.svg but noone has replied. Would you please explain why the red line is incorrect? cmɢʟee୯ ͡° ̮د ͡° ੭ 20:16, 6 December 2012 (UTC)

Original Research

Visualization of the Mesoamerican Long Count calendar

Please don't add original research as you did to the Maya calendar articles. Senor Cuete (talk) 15:06, 21 December 2012 (UTC)Senor Cuete

From your comment "Revert to last un vandalized and no OR version" on Mesoamerican calendars, I infer that you meant that my illustration is original research. All the information in it is derived from tables in Mesoamerican_Long_Count_calendar#Correlations_between_Western_calendars_and_the_Long_Count and Maya_calendar#Long_Count — I just organized it in a graphical form so that it is much easier to compare the large range of numbers. Could you identify what you mean by original research? I'll start a thread on Talk:Mesoamerican_Long_Count_calendar and apppreciate your feedback there. cmɢʟee୯ ͡° ̮د ͡° ੭ 19:36, 21 December 2012 (UTC)

River Alde map

Thanks for adding this to the commons and to the River Alde article. It's great - and really interesting, as a local, to be able to pick out Iken church for example! I'll probably use it in a couple of other articles for the area that I'm considering working up fairly soon.

You might want to note that there's a public domain flag on the Commons that you might need to address for the image. Images always scare me so I'm not entirely sure what the flag is...

Btw, if you have a moment could you look at the River Ore article. I was considering combining the Alde and Ore in one article - I'd value any thoughts you might have on this. Thanks again for the map. Blue Square Thing (talk) 19:28, 24 January 2013 (UTC)

That was quick! My pleasure, Blue Square Thing — I'm glad you found the map useful. I've updated the licence to Template:PD-Art-100 which I think fits better. I'll have a look at Ore, though I'm not particularly familiar with it. cmɢʟee୯ ͡° ̮د ͡° ੭ 19:35, 24 January 2013 (UTC)

P.S. On reading River Ore, I've come to realise that it's effectively the same river as River Alde. Therefore, I agree on a merge, leaving a Redirect from River Ore. I've proposed a merge there, so please support it if you like. cmɢʟee୯ ͡° ̮د ͡° ੭ 19:56, 24 January 2013 (UTC)

Ta - I've tidied the merge stuff up a little and made a formal proposal. Blue Square Thing (talk) 20:34, 24 January 2013 (UTC)

An earlier effort of yours

Template:Volcanic Eruption Map (renamed from something .svg): While the work is appreciated, it was a wee bit broken. I'm going to adjust this template a bit, add some vars. Good work on the scaling, though. Can't believe I didn't see that until today. ResMar 01:36, 25 January 2013 (UTC)

Since you seem to be an image specialist, have you looked at the following script: User:Dapete/ImageMapEdit.js? Imagemaps seem precisely up your alley. And one more thing: I made a request at the workshop a while ago that has since gone stale, think you can handle it? ResMar 01:57, 25 January 2013 (UTC)

&one more thing, the Merapi event was in 2010, not 2011, so that needs correcting. I would do that myself but you have some wonky root protection on the image and I don't know how to ungroup the objects through it. Say, how *did* you do that? ResMar 02:53, 25 January 2013 (UTC)

Many thanks for creating the image map and notifying me about the mistake, ResMar. I've fixed Merapi's year, but I'm unsure by what you mean by "root protection" — I create the SVGs by hand in a text editor, so perhaps Inkscape or another graphics editor doesn't like the formatting. Converting a bitmap to SVG is very difficult by hand, so I've to leave the task to someone more familiar with Inkscape etc. Though WIkipedia prefers SVGs, I think the GIF is fine (I can convert it to PNG if needed) especially since the USGS is a public domain source. I'm unfamiliar with image maps, so can you tell me how to use ImageMapEdit.js? cmɢʟee୯ ͡° ̮د ͡° ੭ 03:04, 26 January 2013 (UTC)

It's a tool that loads onto the page whenever you end up at an image. It adds a button below the image that lets you map coordinates, assign links, and etc. for imagemaps. I tuned Template:Volcanic Eruption Map using it, for instance, and I think you would find it handy given that you're a technical graphic contributor. Just looking at your talk page it would be useful for File:Moon landing sites.svg and File:Comparison of highest mountains.svg As for the map, that would explain it, I don't have experience with Inkscape's raw XML editor (or, really, raw XML, yeah, I know). The low quality of the GIF bothers me, is the problem. I looked through your image credits and really, I'm impressed, so here have one of these:

		The Graphic Designer's Barnstar
		Awarded for bang-on illustrative contributions, because Wikipedia needs more technically-minded graphic artists. ResMar 14:51, 26 January 2013 (UTC)

addendum: I took a stab at converting the graphic, this is the result. ResMar 19:37, 26 January 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the Barnstar, ResMar. I'll keep User:Dapete/ImageMapEdit.js in mind for relevant images. cmɢʟee୯ ͡° ̮د ͡° ੭ 15:01, 27 January 2013 (UTC)

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Hi, I think that the map needs to be modified. Mindanao can be regarded as a province in the illustration and Zamboanga is its capital. What I can suggest is we change the font size of Mindanao as well as Zamboanga's, and adding Bongao as the capital in addition with the existing Simunul marker. If I may add, Sipadan is irrelevant to the ongoing conflict in Sabah as this pertains only to the 2000 Kidnapping incident in which Kirams or the Malaysian government is not a part of it. Thanks! adkranz (talk) 02:05, 5 March 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for your feedback, Adkranz.

1. I'm unsure what you meant by the first part. Do you mean that Zamboanga is incorrectly indicated as the capital of Mindanao? I've updated the markers to show that it is a city but not the capital.
2. Tawi Tawi is already too crammed to fit a Bongao marker. Besides, it's not mentioned in the article.
3. I think the 2000 kidnapping is wholly relevant as it's another "terrorist" (for lack of a better term) incident by another militant group in the vicinity. I've made the font smaller to deemphasise it.

cmɢʟee୯ ͡° ̮د ͡° ੭ 12:12, 5 March 2013 (UTC)

Also, don't forget to update your map on ms wiki. ;) — иz нίpнόp ^ʜᴇʟᴘ! 16:52, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

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Thanks, Lettres. That's a nice infographic. cmɢʟee୯ ͡° ̮د ͡° ੭ 21:10, 8 April 2013 (UTC)

State election results template

• Regarding the extra column in the Template:Malaysian general election state results, 2013, I don't see it as necessary. We already have the number of seats in Barisan, Pakatan and Independents and their variances, including the totals. Can you explain by what you mean when you say changes in the number of seats for each state? There hasn't been any changes in the number of seats in states for the past 10 years or the introduction of new state seats. This procedure I believe is only done every 10 years due to population changes in the country.Lazybugger13 (talk) 07:41, 11 May 2013 (UTC)

• Hi Lazybugger13, if you look at the +/- columns for Kedah and Selangor, the sum of all the parties' values is not zero (e.g. Selangor has BN losing 9 and PR gaining 10, implying that one new seat has been created). Since you wrote, "There hasn't been any changes in the number of seats in states for the past 10 years or the introduction of new state seats," does that imply that the numbers in the table are wrong? cmɢʟee୯ ͡° ̮د ͡° ੭ 21:08, 12 May 2013 (UTC)

Hi guys, sorry for interjecting your conversation, but allow me to clarify a few things on this topic. Indeed, there's no change in state assembly seats between 2008 and 2013. However, there could be changes within that period like by-elections and passing of an assemblyman, which is reflected in List of State Seats Representatives in Malaysia (before GE13). If you refer to that article for the changes in seats, you might find that the figures don't add up properly, as in the Selangor example.

Vacant seats should not be considered "missing" in 2008 results and "added back" in 2013. Still, it's not clear whether you want to base the changes on the 2008 elected results, or up to the point before GE13, including by-elections and changes of allegiance. Hytar (talk) 21:51, 12 May 2013 (UTC)

Hi cmglee, actually when I started the summary table I was basing it from the List of State Seats Representatives in Malaysia, whereby for example Selangor has 56 seats. There hasn't been any new seat created in Selangor since the the 2008 general elections. Going through the Selangor list again, BN has 21 seats, DAP has 12 seats, PKR has 14 seats and PAS has 8 seats (this gives PR 34 in total) and one vacant seat(due to the passing of assemblyman Edward Lee from DAP on December 2011). Now BN won 12 seats (meaning they lost 9 seats), PR won 44 seats (meaning they won 10 seats, including the vacant seat). Now regarding Kedah, we got BN at 14 seats, DAP 1 seat, PKR 2 seats, PAS 16 seats(This gives PR 19 seats in total) and 2 independents. The recent election saw BN winning 21 seats (gain of 7 seats, meaning they scooped up both the independent seats too and 4 PR seats) and PR gaining 15 seats (lost of 4 seats). So in a way the table is correct and those need an extra column on seat variances next to the total. As Hytar mentioned we are looking at basing the changes up to the point before the GE13 taking into account, by-elections and changes of allegiances.Lazybugger13 (talk) 08:29, 13 May 2013 (UTC)

My apologies regarding the previous post regarding Kedah. In actual fact let's summarise the Kedah list again. I shouldn't have taken the list at face value without checking it thoroughly. BN has 14 seats, DAP 1 seat, PKR 4 seats, PAS 16 seats (this gives PR 21 seats) and 1 independent This gives us 36 seats in total. Recently BN won 21 seats (a gain of 7 seats) and PR has won 15 seats (a lost of 6 seats) and the independent lost his seat. So in actual fact the table has to be tweaked with new corrections.Lazybugger13 (talk) 08:49, 13 May 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the detailed analysis, Lazybugger13. In that case, I agree with you that the +/- column in the table is redundant. cmɢʟee୯ ͡° ̮د ͡° ੭ 11:07, 13 May 2013 (UTC)