User talk:Carcharoth/Middle-earth in popular culture

Planned rewrite

Reminding myself what I'm planning:

• I feel there should be an article on Middle-earth in popular culture, and I feel that the existing information would be useful in writing that article.
• References to books and papers on the impact Tolkien's works have had on popular culture, such as Brian Rosebury's book which includes a chapter ""The Cultural Phenomenon." In this chapter Rosebury examines the "afterlife" of Tolkien's works and attempts to bring Tolkien criticism up to the present moment by considering the "cultural afterlife" of The Lord of the Rings in popular culture."
• Work from the existing article and pare it down and rebuild it with references.
• Also, this article is actually part of a series of three articles on "after Tolkien". See Template:After Tolkien navbox.
• The onus is on me (or whoever writes or rewrites the article) to find the references and sources first.
• Restore and then move to my userspace, and then delete the redirect.
• I would then carry out a rewrite, adding sources, and then move it back to mainspace when I thought it was ready. I would notify you when I move it back, and if you or anyone thinks I've moved it back too early, or it is still unsuitable, then they could open a new AfD.
• Most of the material won't prove very useful.
• Some more sources: this book and this research project. There are also several news articles such as this one and there is also the J. R. R. Tolkien Encyclopedia, which has several entries devoted to the reception of Tolkien's works in various countries, and in particular an article on Tolkien's cultural impact on the USA in the 1960s.
• Quite clearly, there is enough in various sources for an article. The question then becomes how to illustrate the article with examples? Which ones should be chosen and which should be omitted? That would be something that would be discussed on the talk page of the article. Some of the ones I think worth mentioning are The Return of the Fellowship of the Ring to the Two Towers, The Ballad of Bilbo Baggins, Misty Mountain Hop, and Nightfall in Middle-Earth. The more trivial, one-liners, would be excised from the article.

The above is some notes on what can be done and what needs doing. Carcharoth 02:28, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

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• Elfwood

References

• Obviously the book I waited ages for to do the rewrite with (Tolkien: A Cultural Phenomenon)
• Middle Earth’s Messianic Mythology Remixed: Gandalf’s Death and Resurrection in Novel and Film - An article from the Journal of Religion and Popular Culture