Cafe.doppio

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If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to contact me on my talk page. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 20:05, 30 September 2020 (UTC)

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Hi, Cafe.doppio. I answered your questions on my talk page. Usually people prefer to keep a discussion in one place so since you asked on my talk page, I answered there. I also created a section heading for your comment so it doesn't blend in with the discussion before. There really isn't much back-story to the thing you were asking about. Jason Quinn (talk) 16:09, 22 October 2020 (UTC)

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Hi. If you want to change the article you've assigned yourself, click on the "Assign myself an article" button on the Dashboard. You can type in the title of the new article you want to work on. If you want to unassign yourself an article, just click on the - sign next to the article.

Helaine (Wiki Ed) supports instructors, I support students. It's just the two of us, most of the time. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 21:05, 22 October 2020 (UTC)

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Hi! I posted this in response to your message on Ian (Wiki Ed)'s talk page, but wanted to post it here as well:

• I always recommend drafting it in your sandbox first, as this gives you a chance to work on it at your leisure and try out different things. When you edit live, there's the expectation that any additions will be "ready" as soon as you save your work - meaning that it'll be written in a neutral encyclopedic style and use proper sourcing. When you work in the sandbox you can stop and come back to your work if you have to step away, use it as a general scratchpad, or so on. As far as when it's ready, you can always run things through Ian and your instructor (or me!) if you have any questions. On a side note, since this looks like it's going to be a new article, you may find this framework handy. Essentially this is a template (of sorts) for biographies. Not all of the sections will be applicable for every person and there may be some that you need that aren't there, but the basics are there. Another thing that would be useful would be to use a similar article as an example or guide while drafting. So for example, while they're not the exact same type of scientists the articles on Nina Demme, Carl Linnaeus, Barbara McClintock, or Charles Darwin would be good articles to use as a guide since they're among the best examples of biographies on scientists on Wikipedia and show a good depth of coverage. Your draft doesn't have to be as comprehensive, of course, but they can give you some good ideas for sections and starting points. ReaderofthePack(formerly Tokyogirl79) (｡◕‿◕｡) 02:56, 29 October 2020 (UTC)

Thanks very much for the feedback and ideas 67.169.193.129 (talk) 20:33, 30 October 2020 (UTC) Please look at the sandbox and re-direct for my work. I went to our Wiki Educ site and tried to access my work and it was empty. My active work sandbox is cafe.doppio/sandbox and the WikiEd determined site is User:Cafe.doppio/Janine Caira. I tried to move it and ended up with a re-direct. Please adviseCafe.doppio (talk) 04:34, 12 November 2020 (UTC)

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Your sandbox is currently at User:Cafe.doppio/janine caira. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 19:03, 12 November 2020 (UTC) The peer reviewers cannot access it from here: https://dashboard.wikiedu.org/courses/Portland_State_University/Women_Scientists_(Fall_2020) or here: https://dashboard.wikiedu.org/courses/Portland_State_University/Women_Scientists_(Fall_2020)/students/articles/Allisonkirkpatrick and this also goes for the other student who is assigned to review my workCafe.doppio (talk) 22:49, 12 November 2020 (UTC)

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Your draft at User:Cafe.doppio/janine caira looks pretty good. It needs some copy-editing - several sentences lack periods at the end, and one ends in a comma. So look over things like that. The "Research and teaching" section has a lot of quotation marks, and I'm not entirely sure that they're all appropriate. If that is all a long quote, I recommend that you try rephrasing it in your own words. And I don't quite get the point of the legacy section - it's a general statement about academics rather than something specific about Caira.

A couple other stylistic things - Wikipedia articles tend not to use titles, and "Professor" isn't one that's used often at all. And where you say "Currently..." it's better to say "As for 2020". Since articles aren't dated, it can be hard for readers to know what to make of "now" statements. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 18:38, 30 November 2020 (UTC) Thanks very much for the suggestions and style info. Cafe.doppio (talk) 19:20, 30 November 2020 (UTC)