User talk:C.Fred/Archive 23

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Sir if I post an article in Hindi then can I use my blog page link as an external link. what is a process to attach my blog name to my article that won't be removed by an editor? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aliscience.in (talk • contribs) 08:46, 9 December 2017 (UTC)

@Aliscience.in: You may not create an external link to your blog, period. See WP:ELNO for guidance on things that should not be linked to from articles. —C.Fred (talk) 20:12, 9 December 2017 (UTC)

Hi C-Fred...

Last week I tried to edit my Uncle's wikipedia page and you un did my comments. Just wondering, how can you allow someone else to edit my uncles Wikipedia who clearly has malice intent? Who did this and why is it allowed in there without knowing the ENTIRE truth!?!? And not allow his niece to correct it and put in the truth? I thought Wikipedia was designed to know the truth about people and not a place to find slanderous content. My Uncle Mike is the CEO of a company with partners who are some of the biggest names in sports. Do you honestly think they would add their name to Mikes company if he “choked” a child? Thank you for your time. Please help me to allow this inaccurate content to be removed. Sydneytravers (talk) 23:31, 9 December 2017 (UTC)

@Sydneytravers: If you have a conflict of interest with a subject—which you have declared—you should not edit their article. You can request changes at the articl's talk page. —C.Fred (talk) 23:32, 9 December 2017 (UTC)

In this particular case, you'll need to provide other reliable sources to counter the claims—either to say that the charges were dismissed or that the case was resolved. —C.Fred (talk) 23:34, 9 December 2017 (UTC)

@Sydneytravers: To follow on: I can't judge whether the addition of the choking allegation was malicious. I can say that, unless there were more to the story, there's not enough to warrant inclusion in the article. I've already addressed why COI says that you should not be changing the article. Since the newspaper did not retract the story over the last few years, I don't see where there's any concerns on the libel standpoint. That said, at the end of the day, what was left was an allegation—no conviction and no evidence of any repercussions—made by another party, and when that's looked at under the lens of the WP:BLP policy, it shouldn't be there. So I removed it.

If you had removed only that item, the edit would have stood. However, you removed every negative comment about Vanderjagt at the same time, including mentions of missing critical field goals. That's why your edits were undone wholesale—under the lens of what you were changing, it looked like an attempt to whitewash.

That's also why I recommend editors to make requests in small chunks, so each item can be reviewed on its own merits. —C.Fred (talk) 23:50, 9 December 2017 (UTC)

Hi C-Fred,

Firstly, thank you for removing the "choking" story and realizing that there wasnt any truth to it. Having said that, Im not sure who edited my uncle's Wikipedia. The facts are below. If you could please edit them accordingly or allow me to do, I would really appreciate it.

Mike Vanderjagt spent 4 years in the Canadian Football League and was an all pro. He was 14-14 in the playoffs, including 9-9 in the Grey Cup where he was named Most Outstanding Canadian. He also spent 9 years in the NFL, where he retired as the Most Accurate Kicker in the history of the NFL. He also retired with an NFL record 42 straight FG's made. He had 17 game winning FG's and also has the greatest season for a kicker EVER. He is also the only person to have ever led both the CFL and the NFL in scoring !

I could go on and on but my point is that he deserves to be written and recognized for all that he has accomplished and not for the negativity that someone wants to portray him as. He is on a very short list of the greatest kickers in the history of Pro Football. I would really appreciate it if you would allow me to edit is page, or if you could. Thank you. Sydneytravers (talk) 00:22, 12 December 2017 (UTC)

@Sydneytravers: Being one of the greatest kickers doesn't mean he didn't still have a slide here or there. The article needs to be written from neutral point of view, which means we include negatives as well as positives. I don't think what's in the article is grossly or unfairly negative. You're welcome to start discussion at the article's talk page to see if other editors agree that it should be removed. However, because of your conflict of interest, the community will view you as non-neutral, so you should not directly edit the article. —C.Fred (talk) 01:19, 12 December 2017 (UTC)

BudhanilkanthaNepal

Can you help me how to contribute wikipedia well. I want to change some imformation of Nepal — Preceding unsigned comment added by BudhanilkanthaNepal (talk • contribs) 03:24, 15 December 2017 (UTC)

I'm keeping this thread in one place, at your talk page. —C.Fred (talk) 03:26, 15 December 2017 (UTC)

I want add politics of Nepal page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by BudhanilkanthaNepal (talk • contribs) 03:30, 15 December 2017 (UTC)

C fred

I don't know what u mean being a pro nitrotyoe Rupert is good and I am a street sagga Ty.Hamilll (talk) 13:00, 15 December 2017 (UTC)

Replying on your talk page. Keep the thread there. —C.Fred (talk) 13:06, 15 December 2017 (UTC)

Alabama State Tuskegee football rivalry

I realize as it pertains to the Turkey Day Classic itself, yes Alabama State Tuskegee doesn't play each other in said classic. However, they are now playing each other again, 2017-2020. Aren't they considered rivals anyways since they started playing each other in 1901, 23 years before the Turkey Day Classic was born. Shouldn't there be a separate, Wikipedia page for Alabama State-Tuskegee the football rivalry that references the fact that most of their games was played as the Turkey Day Classic? 112.173.55.133 (talk) 12:25, 15 December 2017 (UTC)

References

Maybe. That's a question better asked at the talk page for the Turkey Day Classic to decide how to proceed with that. —C.Fred (talk) 12:37, 15 December 2017 (UTC)

Could there be a footnote stating while Tuskegee no longer plays in the Turkey Day Classic, they continue to play Alabama State. The rivalry will still be there and won't be deleted on the fcs section, but with a footnote. How does that sound?112.173.55.133 (talk) 12:19, 16 December 2017 (UTC)

defamatory article about me with factual errors

Dear C. Fred: I have just tried twice to fix the defamation and factual errors in the article posted about me. If you read my edit, you would see that I was born to an Austrian mother and a Spanish father, in London, England, and that I am NOT of Croatian descent. Dejan Djokic, quoted in this Wikipedia attack (probably written by Aleksa Djilas) is a Serb nationalist and author of a biased book about interwar Yugoslavia which was panned by Ivo Banac in the journal SLAVIC REVIEW. The whole point of calling me a Croat is to suggest to the reader that I am somehow biased, by birth, against Serbs. I can assure you that being half-Austrian, half-Spanish, I have not brought any national bias to my work on ex-Yugoslavia. There are numerous additional errors of fact in the article, including about the age at which I began to experience gender dysphoria, the year in which I crossed from male to female, the languages into which my books have been translated, and the supposition that the Centre for the Study of Civil War still exists (it ended 10 years of work in 2012 and no longer exists). Also, if you read the language of the article, you will see that its purpose is not to provide objective information about me but to undermine my credibility. This is inexcusable. You suggest that I may have a "conflict of interest" here; I reply that I know the facts of my life better than anyone else and that the nastiness of the Wikipedia article is so obvious that only an idiot would not see it. Please inform me how I may post a more accurate account of my life, one with is not hostile to me and full of errors. Sabrina P. Ramet Zecevi99 (talk) 21:46, 17 December 2017 (UTC)

@Zecevi99: Please direct us to where we may find an independently published reliable source (or multiple sources) which have covered your life. Wikipedia policies put far more confidence in edited works like that than statements by subjects or parties related to them. If there are concerns about the tone of the article, you need to address them at the article's talk page or, if they're that severe, the noticeboard for biographies of living people.

Please also be advised that we currently have no way to verify your identity other than your statement. Please reconcile your statement about how people are out to "undermine [your] credibility" against the fact that we have no evidence that you're you and not one of those parties that you allege is out to undermine you. Unless you contact the volunteer response team via email and verify your identity, we have to consider that you are not who you state you are. Even if you do prove your identity, that will not give you carte blanche to edit the article. —C.Fred (talk) 22:05, 17 December 2017 (UTC)

Admin page submission about my account

Thank you for your ANI notice. I have responded to the issues raised and would appreciate if AntanO would follow his own advice, and use the talk page before making any edits. He/She is preventing me from updating the page with new information and removing incorrect, and subjective information to preserve the integrity of the information on Wikipedia. I have tried to justify my edits on this users talk page but they are uncooperative and repudiated me with the statement "I'm not interested in your rationalization". This user has an ulterior motive for maintaining false information spread through discredited and out-dated sources. Kind Regards Floating Philosopher — Preceding unsigned comment added by Floating philosopher (talk • contribs) 07:09, 18 December 2017 (UTC)

Formal mediation has been requested

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Reverting of my edit on the Muhammad page

Hello. You reverted my edit on the Muhammad page, with the comment that he's an historical figure. My concern is more to do with the fact that he's described as a Prophet. This is certainly not an indisputable historical fact and it needs rewording to Clarify that he's only a prophet in Islamic belief. Would you mind having a go at this? Regards Obscurasky (talk) 10:04, 18 December 2017 (UTC)

OK, I've done it myself. Please don't revert without discussing it first. Thank you, Obscurasky (talk) 20:22, 19 December 2017 (UTC)

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Happy New Year

Happy New Year! Best wishes for 2018. —Donner60 (talk) 07:51, 31 December 2017 (UTC)

Happy New Year, C.Fred!

Happy New Year!

C.Fred,
Have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable New Year, and thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia.
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/* Username concerns */

At the beginning of December we had some communication regarding this wiki page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drunken_Peasants

You determined that one of the hosts was mononymous and stopped edits that were posting his full name. This is now continuing in an attempt to doxx me and I need assistance with resolving this issue. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by BenpaiDP (talk • contribs) 19:27, 31 December 2017 (UTC)

Hey. I'm a frequent viewer of the podcast and a close friend of Ben's. I would just like to enforce the validity of his anonymity. His identity has never been public and people are now trying to use Wikipedia as a means to get his full name out there. For the sake of his safety and that of others involved. I ask that you please make it a priority to get this under control and hopefully lock the page. Thanks for listening and hope you can help us work this out. 2601:192:8602:F1E0:181A:E358:AA46:82CA (talk) 19:37, 31 December 2017 (UTC)

2018 Kids’ Choice Awards

Mason Prince (talk) 20:55, 31 December 2017 (UTC) Hey man, can you help me with my draft after it was deleted?

@Mason Prince: It wasn't deleted; it was declined. And until the even receives significant coverage in the media, it's not ready for an article yet. —C.Fred (talk) 20:56, 31 December 2017 (UTC)

Mason Prince (talk) 21:02, 31 December 2017 (UTC) Well when will it get a page?

@Mason Prince: When it's been covered significantly in the media. Probably in the run-up to the event, after the nominations are announced. —C.Fred (talk) 21:03, 31 December 2017 (UTC)

Mason Prince (talk) 21:15, 31 December 2017 (UTC) Okay since the nominations should be announced in February who do you think should be the host?

@Mason Prince: I'm not sure what you mean. If you're referring to the article, there's no host/key editor/owner of the page. —C.Fred (talk) 22:32, 31 December 2017 (UTC)

Horstead With Stanninghall

It seems as everything constructive i wright on here is taken down for no reason, i write things and get warnings Thanks Crazynetherghast (talk) 19:54, 4 January 2018 (UTC)

@Crazynetherghast: The issue is that your contributions haven't been particularly constructive. They've either added external links improperly (see WP:EL for guidelines) or they've been non-encyclopedic and full of peacock terms. —C.Fred (talk) 00:12, 5 January 2018 (UTC)

Happy new year!

Happy new year 2018! zixuan (talk) 20:11, 5 January 2018 (UTC)

Walt Whiteman Bridge

The CO of the Walt Whiteman Bridge is LT. Dougherty. Thought it was decent info to put down. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ltgdougherty68 (talk • contribs) 04:08, 4 January 2018 (UTC)

@Ltgdougherty68: As has already been pointed out on your talk page, it's non-encyclopedic and unsourced. Plus, you have a conflict of interest. —C.Fred (talk) 04:10, 4 January 2018 (UTC)

If you want source go to DRPA Decemeber board meetings. the LT. is the CO of the bridge. Its true info. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ltgdougherty68 (talk • contribs) 04:13, 4 January 2018 (UTC)

(talk page watcher) Hi Ltgdougherty68. C.Fred will probably post something similar, but please take a look at WP:BURDEN, WP:VNT and WP:NOTEVERYTHING. "WP:BURDEN" basically says that it is the responsibility of the person adding content to an article to provide a citation to a reliable source; so, if you add content to an article and someone removes it because it's unsourced, then it the thing to do is provide the source. "WP:VNT" basically means that it's verifiability, not "truth" which matters when it comes to article content. There's lots of things in the world which are true, but Wikipedia is only really interested in those things which can be verified by checking published reliable sources. Please note that "reliable sources" has a specific meaning with respect to Wikipedia. Finally, "WP:NOTEVERYTHING" means that not everything which is true or even which is verifiable needs to be mentioned on Wikipedia, but really only those things which are encyclopedically relevant to the reader. So, assuming that the fact that the LT is the commander of the bridge can be verified through a citation to a published reliable sources, the consensus may still not be to include such information. -- Marchjuly (talk) 04:23, 4 January 2018 (UTC)

All I am doing is providing information to civilians who want to know the law enforcement official that commands the officers and sergeants on the Walt Whiteman Bridge. Some citizens think that is could be vital information to know the Lieutenants position within the department — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jfisher36 (talk • contribs) 04:34, 4 January 2018 (UTC)

@Jfisher36 and Ltgdougherty68: The information is unsourced, you're writing about yourself, and the commander of the maintenance detachment of the bridge (which is where you're placing the info) is trivial. For all these reasons, the name of the lieutenant should not be inserted in the article. —C.Fred (talk) 04:37, 4 January 2018 (UTC)

I am not writing about myself. My name is Josh Fisher and I think a respected Police lieutenant belongs there. He is key in making key decisions everyday and saves lives. If you copy this link and scroll down to where is says promotions, you will the the Leutenant's name and it says WWB for Walt Whiteman Bridge. There is the source. http://www.drpa.org/publish/library/DRPA_PATCO_BoardAgenda_2017_12_06.pdf — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jfisher36 (talk • contribs) 04:42, 4 January 2018 (UTC)

Jfisher36 When a new account is created right on the heels of an abusive one, the obvious conclusion is that the two accounts are related—especially when they both can't spell Whitman. And if the lieutenant is that important, cite some secondary sources that cover him in depth. —C.Fred (talk) 04:45, 4 January 2018 (UTC)

You asked for one source. One. So I gave you one. Why does it hurt you so much to give people info about law enforcement officials? Its simple, true info that I gave you a source for and you now ask for a second. All I am asking is for you to let me put down the information. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jfisher36 (talk • contribs) 04:52, 4 January 2018 (UTC)

@Jfisher36: If you're Ltgdougherty68 and created a new account to try and get this information added to the article, then you are not only engaging in edit warring, but you are using sock puppetry to do so. You're a new editor so others are going to be willing to cut you a little slack, but they will not be willing to continue to assume good faith if you continue to violate Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If you're not Ltdougherty68, then my suggestion to you is that you slow down and read what others have posted because you're going to end up getting blocked as not being here to help build the encyclopedia if you keep doing what you're doing. As I posted above not everything which is true and verifiable about the bridge deserves to be mentioned in the Wikipedia article written about it. You need to discuss things on the article's talk page and establish a consensus for including the commanding officer's name. -- Marchjuly (talk) 04:56, 4 January 2018 (UTC)

@Jfisher36 Dosen't try to edit because i mentioned alert you need to add this such as edit My Bold to '''My bold'''. You need to edit this or i ping C.Fred: "@[[User:C>Fred|C.Fred]] C.Fred, You need to wait to add some more information for "Wait Whiteman Bridge". "zixuan (talk) 20:52, 5 January 2018 (UTC)

Wiki Changea

Hi c.fred, i understand ive done some unconstructive things in the past, but i just made a constructive edit to the horstead wih stanninghall page, it was then removed by a automatic bot, i was wondering if you could get the changes back? Thanks Crazynetherghast (talk) 21:41, 2 January 2018 (UTC)

@Crazynetherghast: You'll need to rewrite the changes into encyclopedic tone and provide reliable sources. —C.Fred (talk) 21:54, 2 January 2018 (UTC)

@C.Fred: You need to rewrite this. zixuan (talk) 20:45, 5 January 2018 (UTC)

@Zixuan75: I'm not familiar enough with Horstead with Stanninghall to have sources to work on the article. —C.Fred (talk) 20:47, 5 January 2018 (UTC)

@C.Fred: This article moves to C.Fred. zixuan (talk) 20:59, 5 January 2018 (UTC)

@Zixuan75: Umm, no. There's no need for a valid article to be moved to my user page. —C.Fred (talk) 21:00, 5 January 2018 (UTC)

@C.Fred: Oh, i move back. zixuan (talk) 21:02, 5 January 2018 (UTC)

Do not edit me?

	Do not edit me?
	a post zixuan (talk) 20:41, 5 January 2018 (UTC)

@Zixuan75: If you make constructive edits and don't make a mess with your experimentation, then I won't need to fix your edits. —C.Fred (talk) 20:43, 5 January 2018 (UTC)

@C.Fred: If you can undo my Hambright page, you edit this. zixuan (talk) 20:44, 5 January 2018 (UTC)

@Zixuan75: I don't follow you. —C.Fred (talk) 20:45, 5 January 2018 (UTC)

@C.Fred: I don't know why you edit my post.zixuan (talk) 20:54, 5 January 2018 (UTC)

@Zixuan75: Because you're doing things to disrupt the encyclopedia, like creating pages in other users' user space. —C.Fred (talk) 20:56, 5 January 2018 (UTC)

@C.Fred: Umm, no. I saw why edit the Hambright page. zixuan (talk) 21:05, 5 January 2018 (UTC)

@Zixuan75: I haven't touched Hambright. —C.Fred (talk) 21:10, 5 January 2018 (UTC)

@C.Fred: Ok, why edit me because something else touched me not you. zixuan (talk) 21:13, 5 January 2018 (UTC)

@Zixuan75: If you mean User:Hambright, you created a page that qualified for speedy deletion, because there's no such user. —C.Fred (talk) 21:28, 5 January 2018 (UTC)

Pat O'Keeffe edit. Okeeffemarc (talk) 03:53, 5 January 2018 (UTC)

Hello, yes this edit i did was about my Great grand Father...using facts and figures...please tell me that i can still find everything I've just edited still once you are happy that is true....i just spent HOURS on this :(

Okeeffemarc (talk) 03:53, 5 January 2018 (UTC)

@Okeeffemarc: Really, since it's a family member, you shouldn't be editing the article at all. If you are going to edit, you need to show that the material you added came from published, independent reliable sources. —C.Fred (talk) 03:57, 5 January 2018 (UTC)

Okeeffemarc (talk) 04:06, 5 January 2018 (UTC) ok, but I was just adding to what was already there, from an autobiography that a non family member made. I have no need or desire to embellish, but to enrich the internet with more information, the author of the book, along with most people spelt the surname wrong, but if you look at the content of what I have added, you’ll see there are pictures with the correct spelling. Has the edit that I have just done been completely deleted? It took all day to do.

@Okeeffemarc: Material from an autobiography is only usable in an article about the author of the autobiography; it should not be used in an article about anybody else. —C.Fred (talk) 04:07, 5 January 2018 (UTC)

Okeeffemarc (talk) 04:11, 5 January 2018 (UTC) ok, so I can edit anything that is about others. How do I get to the edit I made? Okeeffemarc (talk) 04:11, 5 January 2018 (UTC)

@Okeeffemarc: No, you can't. You just said the source you were using is an autobiography. Sources need to be written by independent editors and published; see WP:RS and WP:Secondary sources for more info. —C.Fred (talk) 04:13, 5 January 2018 (UTC)

Okeeffemarc (talk) 04:17, 5 January 2018 (UTC) Apologies for my noob ness, it’s a biography, not an auto biography. I didn’t realise the difference. It was written by Alan Stratton, I can send pics of it all if that helps? If there’s a way to? Okeeffemarc (talk) 04:17, 5 January 2018 (UTC)

@Okeeffemarc:(talk page watcher) A general comment first: You don't need to start a new discusison thread each time you post; just hit the edit button for the exisitng thread and add you post accordingly. You should properly indent and sign your post as explained in Help:Talk pages. Please take the time to read that help page because it will make it much easier to assist you.

Now for something more specific. You have identified yourself as being related to O'Keefe (or O'Keeffe) which means you have a conflict of interest with respect to anything written about him on Wikipedia. Although conflict-of-interest editing is not expressly prohibitted, it is something which is highly discouraged because it can lead to more serious problems. Please read Wikipedia:Plain and simple conflict of interest guide to familiarize yourself as to what kinds of edits the Wikipedia community thinks are acceptable for COI editors to make. Basically, you can make minor changes as long as they are not considered to be controversial, but anything else should be requested on the article's talk page as explained in Wikipedia:Edit requests. Any major expansion of an article, like what you did, needs to be discussed on the article's talk page first per WP:CAUTIOUS. A name change as well should be discussed on the talk page first since this is a major change.

The text and image content you added apparently came from a book. Did you just copy what Stratton wrote into the Wikipedia article? If you did, then that is something Wikipedia would consider to be a copyright violation. Basically, we as editors are expected to summarize what published reliable sources say about a subject in our own words; we are not allowed to copy and paste or close paraphrase what others have written into articles. The same applies to images; you shouldn't take photos of images you find in books and claim them to be your "own work". The photo you take of the image is yours for sure, but the original image was almost certainly created by someone else and may still be protected by copyright. I've asked about these at c:COM:VP/C#Pat O'Keef(f)e photos, so you can clarify things there if you wish.

This is quite a lot to digest so please take some time to read through the links (the words in blue) I've added above. If you have any questions after reading through all them, please ask them on the article talk page or at the Wikipedia Teahouse. -- Marchjuly (talk) 04:55, 5 January 2018 (UTC)

Hi again Okeeffemarc. I believe I found the Stratton book you used for reference on Ebay. To me it looks more like a self-published book than something put out by an established publishing house with a strong record of editorial control which was written by a well-established writer; this means that it's value as a reliable source for Wikipedia is highly suspect and probably should not be used. This is just my opinion, but its value as a source is also something you should also discuss on the article's talk page. -- Marchjuly (talk) 05:11, 5 January 2018 (UTC)

Hi Marchjuly thanks for taking the time to explain this all. I appreciate your patience. I saw my great grand fathers name on this site and immediately wanted to change all the incorrect information and add all the information I have. I realise now that it’s not that easy. I thought that if I cite the source of the text and images, then I’m acknowledging the fact that the work belongs to the source?

With regards to conflict of interest, we may share the same surname, but he died 60 yrs ago, I have never met him, we are far removed.

With respect to the biography, this is where I’m struggling. I understand that you need to have solid sources to back up your claims, but there is very little information out there on the net about Pat O’Keeffe, and the stuff that is out there appears to be inaccurate. This biography was made by someone who knew him (and still spelt his name wrong!)and researched his career thoroughly. There are plenty of dates and names in this book, could I use it in conjunction with finding more evidence from these places and dates? I see you found a copy being sold in the US, that’s fascinating! I have no idea how many copies there are. I will go on the talk page and, get concencus and change things slowly. Okeeffemarc (talk) 14:00, 5 January 2018 (UTC)

You seem to have figured out how to use the article's talk page, so it's probably best from here on to add any comments/questions about the article there to make it easier for other editors to participate in the discussion. -- Marchjuly (talk) 22:51, 5 January 2018 (UTC)

zixuan75 This wait a construction on 36th street, you don't non wiki this: Bold text. zixuan (talk) 20:56, 5 January 2018 (UTC)

Edit due to missing references

You undid something I added to the entry on Fetlife; I get why, there was no cited references. I am not sure how to do references - it is somewhat problematic since I have no webpage sources. The information was about censorship. The trouble is that very few people bother to create an entire webpage about their missing blog posts. I would like to refer to groups outside Fetlife discussing specifically Fetlife censorship - How should I go about that? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Banana Bannister (talk • contribs) 18:54, 6 January 2018 (UTC)

@Banana Bannister: People creating a webpage about missing blog posts wouldn't meet the requirements. You need to provide a link to a newspaper or magazine story about the deleted links. That would satisfy the requirement to provide a reliable source. —C.Fred (talk) 18:56, 6 January 2018 (UTC)

@C.Fred: Well that makes it tricky, then. Journalists are not going to go around asking 20 thousand site members if they've had their blogs removed. I guess wikipedia is not a viable medium for dealing with controversy. Banana Bannister (talk) 19:08, 6 January 2018 (UTC)

@Banana Bannister: Remember that Wikipedia is an encyclopedia. We aren't really built for breaking stories or ongoing controversy. We're better suited to after-the-fact reporting based on what's in published, independent sources. And yes, FetLife falls into the range of topics that are hard to get sources on because of their nature. —C.Fred (talk) 19:11, 6 January 2018 (UTC)

@C.Fred: Check. I'll see if I can find some other public solution; the tricky part is that it needs corroboration. Chicken and egg problem. Thank you for your time and explanations. Banana Bannister (talk) 19:16, 6 January 2018 (UTC)

I'm still on it

Hi, @C.Fred I'm still on it but please could you add some things at references and external links. C.Fred I'll make sure that by Sunday I would be done with it and I'll try to call you in order to read it and see whether I made mistakes or not. Please give me time. Gontle Galefite (talk) 19:02, 6 January 2018 (UTC) Gontle Galefite (talk) 19:02, 6 January 2018 (UTC)

@Gontle Galefite: Sorry, but no. I'm not familiar with the topic, so I'm not sure where to go to find references. —C.Fred (talk) 19:04, 6 January 2018 (UTC)

@C.Fred thanks for that at least you had tried. But don't worry I'll try to edit it and maybe you can help me out in the future articles that I'll being working on. Thanks a lot! Gontle Galefite (talk) 20:18, 6 January 2018 (UTC)

YGM

Hello, C.Fred. Please check your email; you've got mail!
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Wicknell Chivayo

@@ C.Fred: Did you delete the page Wicknell Chivayo because of the image? I thought it was a free image. I even indicated that I found it of the internet and I don't know if the image is free or if its copyrighted. As a first time offender who unintentionally made an honest mistake I thought you wouldn't delete the page as I had started to provide more sources and coverage for the article including numerous blue links. Jakelewis2 (talk) 13:44, 7 January 2018 (UTC)

@Jakelewis2: The page hasn't been deleted, just the offending images. —C.Fred (talk) 14:07, 7 January 2018 (UTC)

@@ C.Fred: Thank you so much for the help. I am still new to wikipedia editing. I wanted to ask the best place for free images? Is it okay to use images obtained from facebook? I ask this because there were a lot of technical terms that I didn't understand regarding image copyrights. Thank you once again for helping me I really wanted to remove the image from my wikipedia commons page but failed to do so as soon as I noticed it was tagged for speedy removal. Thanks for assisting a new user I appreciate it.

@Jakelewis2: Frankly, the best place for free images is to take them yourself. Most images on the internet—including Facebook profiles—are copyrighted and may not be used on Wikimedia Commons. It's hard to find images online where there's a verifiable free license. —C.Fred (talk) 17:22, 7 January 2018 (UTC)

Thank you

@ C.Fred: Thank you so much Jakelewis2 (talk) 22:36, 7 January 2018 (UTC)

barnstar

		The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar
		Thank you for compromising and realizing that Arrest of Mark Kaminsky and Harvey Bennett was notable. Please always, always, always always give people the benefit of the doubt before deleting their work. We want wikipedia to grow and flourish. WP:BITE! FOR THOSE OF YOU DISPUTING A SPEEDY DELETION OF C.FRED - LOOK AT HOW I DEALT WITH IT I appreciate you helping build this article Fred :). Imaginelenin (talk) 21:48, 7 January 2018 (UTC)

Your Speedy deletions one minutes after I created an article

As you recall 1 minute after I created Mark Kaminsky yesterday you put it up for speedy deletion.

I am retiring.

Today, another article Good Germans was put up for deletion 4 minutes after I created it by User:Arthistorian1977.

"'Notability purges' are being executed throughout Wikipedia by empire-building, wannabe tin-pot dictators masquerading as humble editors."

"There are some people on Wikipedia now who are just bullies, who take pleasure in wrecking ...They poke articles full of warnings and citation-needed notes and deletion prods till the topics go away.

-- The Charms of Wikipedia By Nicholson Baker The New York Review of Books.

I believe Speed deletions are only hurting wikipedia in the long run. Imaginelenin (talk) 15:02, 8 January 2018 (UTC)

@Imaginelenin: I would not have nominated Good Germans for speedy deletion. But that doesn't mean it was a bad-faith nomination.

Speedy deletion is a necessary part of Wikipedia, especially when it comes to copyright violations and blatant promotions. The A7 criterion acts as a check to keep from an article getting written about every man, woman, child, and cat on the internet. Really, which would have been better: to have the Kaminsky article wither in a barely-developed state for months, or to get immediately developed into a more thorough treatment? Because really, the speedy-delete tag is what got the article onto the latter path. —C.Fred (talk) 16:01, 8 January 2018 (UTC)

thanks for helping with cliff chipmunk wiki

	thanks for helping with cliff chipmunk wiki
	thanks for helping with cliff chipmunk wiki RodentGod2888 (talk) 05:02, 10 January 2018 (UTC)

Hi, I'm a writer at Sports Illustrated hoping to get in touch with you for a story on the UCF football team. Could you find me on Twitter at @stephapstein? (I'm new to this so not sure I want to post my email address on what appears to be an open page, but happy to DM it to you so we can proceed.) Thank you! Stephaniesi (talk) 16:14, 10 January 2018 (UTC)

Thanks

Thank you for your help. I explained what I think is going on over on my talkpage. Montanabw^(talk) 00:00, 11 January 2018 (UTC)

Coach, Inc.: Revision history

Hello, I see you reverted the changes done to Coach, Inc because of "Unexplained fork - article still about the same company."

The Coach Inc edits spoke about Coach, and Tapestry Inc spoke about Tapestry. Can you let me know why the changes were reverted? Thanks!

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Coach,_Inc.&action=history

Mnasr24 (talk) 20:25, 11 January 2018 (UTC)Mnasr24

@Mnasr24: The new version of Coach still referred to Tapestry, the company. It's one company, so the article needs to be at Tapestry. If you think Coach is unique enough as an ongoing brand to be separate from Tapestry, discuss the split at the Tapestry article's talk page and see if there's support. —C.Fred (talk) 20:34, 11 January 2018 (UTC)

Request on 20:57:45, 11 January 2018 for assistance on AfC submission by VernonBC

• VernonBC (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Vernon Tigers Junior Lacrosse Club (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Hi, I wanted to add the Vernon Tigers article because the team is already referenced on the Vernon BC page - see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vernon,_British_Columbia#Sports_and_recreation Was planning on expanding the VT page a little, too... VernonBC (talk) 20:57, 11 January 2018 (UTC)

@VernonBC: Everything that's mentioned in an article doesn't need its own article. It's reasonable to mention the junior lacrosse team(s) in the Vernon article, but that doesn't mean they warrant their own articles. —C.Fred (talk) 20:59, 11 January 2018 (UTC)

Do you live in Vernon? The lacrosse games are a pretty big deal in this little town! And Lacrosse is CANADA'S NATIONAL SUMMER SPORT (as per the Government of Canada, see http://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/n-16.7/page-1.html )

best regards, Michael

@VernonBC: "A big deal in this little town" does not equate to a notable topic for a worldwide encyclopedia. When the league they play in isn't notable, that's a good sign that the team isn't either. —C.Fred (talk) 21:09, 11 January 2018 (UTC)

Not sure why you think the TOJLL league is not notable - they already have their own rather extensive wikipedia page. see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thompson_Okanagan_Junior_Lacrosse_League Why wouldn't we want to expand that entry with links to detailed team pages? — Preceding unsigned comment added by VernonBC (talk • contribs) 21:33, 11 January 2018 (UTC)

Cryptocurrency

Fred, miners ONLY have a financial incentive to provide maintenance for the ledger until it is profitable to do so. Once the profit is no longer an option, miners no longer have an incentive to maintain the ledger and the ledger is no longer valid. I’d like to hear your thoughts on this with specific logic statements and a reference.

The old statement was "Miners have a financial incentive to maintain the security of a cryptocurrency ledger."

vs.

The new statement is "Miners have a financial incentive to maintain the security of a cryptocurrency ledger until mining is profitable."

The old statement assumes an indefinite lifespan of the system and is false by default.

Let me know your thoughts, thanks.

[1]

Litesand (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 21:15, 12 January 2018 (UTC)

@Litesand: First, I don't see anything that clearly links profitability to miners wanting to supply ledger maintenance. That said, I would only think that miners would be interested in providing maintenance if it were profitable, and not when it isn't.

Your statement, "Miners have a financial incentive to maintain the security of a cryptocurrency ledger until mining is profitable", implies that miners will not have a financial incentive to provide the service once mining is possible. I think you might want to say while instead of until; either way, you should get consensus about the condition before adding it to the sentence. —C.Fred (talk) 21:36, 12 January 2018 (UTC)

@C.Fred:First, hard costs clearly define a link between profitability - the hard costs are one indispensable element of profitability and revenue is another. Once the costs exceed revenue, no miner can or would want to stay in business to supply ledger maintenance, basically there is no reason to do that job any longer. Second, yes miners would be interested in providing maintenance if it were profitable, and not when it isn't is. This is exactly my argument. Yes, my statement also implies that miners will not have a financial incentive to provide the service once new mining is either theoretically impossible or not profitable. I agree, while "instead" of "until" may work better, people had deleted my correction and I had to resort to the simplest wording possible. Yes, it would help to have a consensus, and I hope you can see why. Maybe you can recommend a better statement that can clarify the finite nature of the system is directly linked to the profitability of miners. For now, I think we have an agreement that this statement is ok with you - "Miners have a financial incentive to maintain the security of a cryptocurrency ledger while mining is profitable." Thanks. Litesand (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 21:55, 12 January 2018 (UTC)

"Andrea Betzner" listed at Redirects for discussion

An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect "Andrea Betzner". Since you had some involvement with the "Andrea Betzner" redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you have not already done so.  — PinkAmpers&^{(Je vous invite à me parler)} 22:06, 13 January 2018 (UTC)

Vanished user 9397739208574728

I think he's asking for his TPA to be revoked. Adam9007 (talk) 18:35, 14 January 2018 (UTC)

Why is my page redirecting to Nootropics Wikipedia page?

Hello C. Fred,

Thank you for your input on the article I created on Wikipedia - Intelligent Pills. The page redirects to the Nootropics Wikipedia page (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligent). Is there anything I can do to make the article stand-alone and not redirect?

Regards, — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sambabkc (talk • contribs) 15:20, 14 January 2018 (UTC)

@Sambabkc: Let's review what happened. You created Draft:Smart pill, but it was rejected. Rather than addressing the problems with that draft and resubmitting, you then created multiple versions of the article under different titles. So, if you think the smart pill is a topic that warrants its own article, then you need to work on Draft:Smart pill and provide independent, reliable sources that show the subject is notable. The, resubmit the draft; don't create the article outright. —C.Fred (talk) 17:55, 14 January 2018 (UTC)

@C.Fred: Hello,

I have updated the article. Please kindly review it and let me know if I need to improve it further.

Thank you —Sambabkc (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 19:43, 14 January 2018 (UTC)

Smart pill page is updated

Hello, I have updated the article - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Smart_pill. Please kindly review it and let me know if I need to improve it further. Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sambabkc (talk • contribs) 19:49, 14 January 2018 (UTC)

@Sambabkc: Yes, much more work is needed. I've left a comment on the draft. —C.Fred (talk) 20:35, 14 January 2018 (UTC)

I'm trying to edit my own page

i keep trying to delete my own birthday and age and someone won't let me. My name is zach blair. how do it do it? Harmzay73 (talk) 03:22, 7 January 2018 (UTC)zach blairHarmzay73 (talk) 03:22, 7 January 2018 (UTC)

@Harmzay73: The birthday on the Zach Blair article is based on what can be found in published reliable sources. We won't change the article based on the word of a newly-registered user. —C.Fred (talk) 03:35, 7 January 2018 (UTC)

What source are you referring to?--Moxy (talk) 03:40, 7 January 2018 (UTC)

@Moxy: In the case of the Blair article, it looks like the dob is omitted right now due to the lack of a source. I'm also dealing with somebody trying to change the birthdate of a baseball player, stating the baseball cards and stat books are wrong. —C.Fred (talk) 03:43, 7 January 2018 (UTC)

Correct.....thus I take it your re-addition of the date was an error. All good now....with no date--Moxy (talk) 03:45, 7 January 2018 (UTC)

Fred I am the legal creator of Wally the green monster feel free to call me [redacted] Rogerthechef (talk) 00:09, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

@Rogerthechef: Sorry, but you need a published reliable source to support your claim. Neither can we take your claim nor do we have any way to verify it. —C.Fred (talk) 00:10, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

Marshall Rogers

You help mediating the Rogers article would be appreciated. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Panix comics (talk • contribs) 02:15, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

@Panix comics: Remember, if I'm there in an administrative capacity, it's to make sure that discussion is ongoing civilly, not to make a ruling on the merits of the edits. —C.Fred (talk) 02:19, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

Having a civil conversation is very good start. I don't know how we can get past this though, without third party commentators on the quality of the edits, and the quality of the original article.

Maybe I have an idea Panix comics (talk) 03:16, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

Is there a way I can keep my Week of Football and Week of Basketball to my self where only I can see if yes can you please recreate those pages TreyD24 — Preceding unsigned comment added by TreyD24 (talk • contribs) 11:32, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

Recreate pages

Is there a way I can keep my Week of Football and Week of Basketball pages to my self so only I can see it if yes can you please recreate those pages TreyD24 (talk) 12:07, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

is a Google business listing a good enough peer reviewed source for Vengaboys Museum?

is this Google link a good enough peer reviewed source for Vengaboys Museum to pass? I'm talking about this link here confirming it's existence on the map and a business listing when you do a search for it

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Ellington+Vengaboys+Museum/@42.2162127,-79.1132867,15z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x0:0x39d244afc4e326b!8m2!3d42.2162127!4d-79.1132867 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ellingtonmuseum (talk • contribs) 18:44, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) No, because Google Maps are user-edited (anyone can create a supposed landmark to display on them), and especially since the site depicted is actually the Ellington, New York Town Hall [2]. Please don't waste our time with this foolishness. General Ization ^Talk 18:46, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

Article is updated

C.Fred,

I just updated the article - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Smart_pill. I will be happy to get your feedback as soon as possible.

Best, — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sambabkc (talk • contribs) 22:14, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

@C.Fred: The new content is not promotional in anyway. What should I do now? —Sambabkc

@Sambabkc: The smartpillwiki isn't a reliable source, so don't use it, for starters. —C.Fred (talk) 22:54, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

@C.Fred: The smartpillwiki reference has been removed from the article. I hope it is not backlisted? Should I edit the introduction section with the previous content? Thank you for your time. — Sambabkc (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 22:59, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

Article is updated

The article has been updated. Please kindly review. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Smart_pill — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sambabkc (talk • contribs) 23:20, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

Can you review and implement my draft for this page?

I made a draft for the page The Heroic Imagination Project. Here is the draft: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:EverydayHero/sandbox/The_Heroic_Imagination_Project_Edits Can you proofread and then implement those changes? Only change made was deleting information about a project that is no longer active within the organization. Thank you so much! EverydayHero (talk) 00:42, 16 January 2018 (UTC)

@EverydayHero: In that form, it would not last, as there's not a clear indication of the organization's importance; it would be speedy deleted under criterion A7. The article needs expanded with more coverage in reliable sources, not shortened. And if the project from 2011 concluded, leave it in for historical reference. —C.Fred (talk) 00:47, 16 January 2018 (UTC)

You beat me to it!

Thanks for reverting that BLP violation. I was doing the exact same thing, but you beat me to it ;-). I appreciate it! ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 02:02, 17 January 2018 (UTC)

Please clarify this for me

Hi,C.Fred, this is ColdBold. If you say Jam Filled is a subsidiary of Boat Rocker Media, does this company have a Wikipedia page? Please clarify so I can comprehend. Thanks!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.218.223.7 (talk) 11:15, 18 January 2018 (UTC)

Mausumi Dikpati

Hi C. Fred

I am Mausumi's husband.

Things are written incorrectly and slangy language about personal life. Furthermore the career section needs corrections. You are reverting back my effort and promoting vandalism. Please stop doing this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by SiddharthaSGhosh (talk • contribs) 03:17, 19 January 2018 (UTC)

@SiddharthaSGhosh: We have no evidence that you are Dikpati's husband. Further, your edits are unsourced and disruptive. If the information needs updated, place the updates and reliable sources on the article talk page for independent editors to add. But because of your admitted conflict of interest, you should not edit the article. —C.Fred (talk) 03:19, 19 January 2018 (UTC)

Paine College

Hello. I found the new logo for athletics on their website. It looks like the site was updated recently. You can find the new logo here: http://www.paineathletics.com/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tonya.williams (talk • contribs) 03:27, 20 January 2018 (UTC)

@Tonya.williams: Got it. Thank you! —C.Fred (talk) 03:42, 20 January 2018 (UTC)

Are you like Interstate Highway System?

I don't like Interstate Highway System. I like DNA and Light rail. Are you like it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zixuan75 (talk • contribs) 01:45, 22 January 2018 (UTC)

Zixuan75

I believe WP:CIR is a factor here. They're creating weird redirects and incomplete help requests, and they've now reorganized the material at the top of my talk page. Home Lander (talk) 02:24, 22 January 2018 (UTC)

@Home Lander: Yeah, I'm thinking that's the situation here. They seem to be unable to engage in English conversation, so there may be a communication factor, but...if you can't stop making a mess, there's only so many chances you get. —C.Fred (talk) 02:27, 22 January 2018 (UTC)

See [3] now. Not sure what the deal is with this page. Home Lander (talk) 02:34, 22 January 2018 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Original Barnstar
	C.Fred helped me to correct my page and make it seem less bias. Although I wasn't writing for any particular person and I was just making the page out of respect for history, after he told me I sounded a bit bias, I went back and discovered that I did. Thanks, C.Fred! Liana Crime Family (talk) 04:03, 25 January 2018 (UTC)

Hoax back to draft

I've asked for the 'article' to be speedy deleted, and given the editor's explanations here [4], doubt that they're planning to contribute to the encyclopedia. Thanks, 2601:188:180:11F0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 02:49, 26 January 2018 (UTC)

Brad Weidel

Brad Weidel is a notable police chief in Ramapo, and there are many sources for that. I think it was too early to delete the article. Could you please restore it so that others can have a say? Thanks.--Peter Dunkan (talk) 22:39, 26 January 2018 (UTC)

@Peter Dunkan: Being a police chief in a municipality somewhere in New Jersey does not make one significant or important. Elected officials wouldn't even qualify, much less a police chief. —C.Fred (talk) 22:41, 26 January 2018 (UTC)

We have articles for people holding similar level positions in the United States police departments, for example Alejandro González Malavé.--Peter Dunkan (talk) 22:48, 26 January 2018 (UTC)

@Peter Dunkan: If Weidel is truly comparable, you should have mentioned the book written about him or the major television coverage in the article. —C.Fred (talk) 22:50, 26 January 2018 (UTC)

He has book mentions: [5] too.--Peter Dunkan (talk) 22:52, 26 January 2018 (UTC)

@Peter Dunkan: Just being mentioned in the book doesn't cut it. It boils down to this: Malavé appears notable, or at least has a strong significance of importance; Weidel doesn't even have an assertion of importance. —C.Fred (talk) 22:54, 26 January 2018 (UTC)

Alright I give up. FYI, Weidel did also have a fleeting appearance on TV (Forensic Files). Regards,--Peter Dunkan (talk) 22:57, 26 January 2018 (UTC)

CF, you made the right move. Peter Dunkan, please learn wikipedia notability guidelines. Assistant principal at a junior high school, a self-published author were just two of the crazy entries you had at List of Mercy College (New York) alumni. I'm a self published author of 23 books and three of them made best seller status (Two of them made BS for a very short period like a day or two. My best seller ever was on a list for most of a month) at Amazon. I'm not in any alumni (Florida Atlantic University or notable people sections for places I have lived (Centereach, New York, Lighthouse Point, Florida to name just two) and shouldn't be either....William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 23:48, 26 January 2018 (UTC)

@WilliamJE: Congratulations on your achievement! I believe you are notable, but if your books made the NYTimes best seller list, then I would be certain about that. I also authored two self-published, partly ghost written books, lol. But none were very successful. I'm an assistant professor, and someday when one of my research papers get cited enough, I may become notable and get included on List of St. John's University alumni. But that day is not coming any time soon.--Peter Dunkan (talk) 00:15, 27 January 2018 (UTC)

Universalizing religion

Why Universalizing Religions is up for deletion? It is valid lingo used in study of religions. Eg Hinduism is a major world religion, but not Universalizing Religion. @realphi

As the nominator and I both said, there aren't sufficient reliable sources to show the term is in wide usage. —C.Fred (talk) 23:32, 14 January 2018 (UTC)

Bing search of "Universalizing Religion" returns 46,000 pages. Isn't that sufficient? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Realphi (talk • contribs) 23:40, 14 January 2018 (UTC)

@Realphi: Nope. —C.Fred (talk) 23:42, 14 January 2018 (UTC)

Don't you think wikipedia and the world doesn't deserve an article with the list of competing worldviews with universal applications? What is the opposite of "Ethnic Religion"?

@Realphi: You mean major religious groups? Already got it. —C.Fred (talk) 23:46, 14 January 2018 (UTC)

major religious groups includes ethnic religions, Universalizing religion doesn't. It is a philosophical category error , and a very very very very very big one , with the implications that can change direction of human civilization.

@Realphi: If it's that significant, then you should be able to find multiple reliable sources that make the distinction. Currently, the best the article can do is a handout from a K-12 school. —C.Fred (talk) 23:55, 14 January 2018 (UTC)

I would argue that if tomorrow Jimmy Wales say that we can have only one category in Wikipedia, which category should be preserved? I would argue that Universalizing religion category should be preserved.

@Realphi: That argument doesn't follow; "if X can't exist, then Y can't" is an argument to be avoided in deletion discussions. —C.Fred (talk) 23:55, 14 January 2018 (UTC)

I don't follow you. zixuan (talk) 00:35, 22 January 2018 (UTC)

If X + Y = Universal set and if X exists then adding Y completes the Universal View from a particular perspective. Universalizing Religion/Ethnic Religion is one of the most important perspective to view the Universe.

The very fact that it is part of K-12 school handout is the proof that our government feels that out kids should know about this very important categorization of religions.

This is my first major wiki article. Let me gather some more sources. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Realphi (talk • contribs) 00:19, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

"I don't follow you. zixuan (talk) 00:35, 22 January 2018 (UTC)" Did they saying very helpful? 172.73.149.44 (talk) 07:47, 27 January 2018 (UTC)

I have added one more reference.

http://www.lancaster.ac.uk/staff/gyaccp/geography%20and%20religion.pdf

Quote from the article:

Classification There are various ways of classifying religions, and the most commonly used ones reflect differences in belief. From a geographical perspective it is more useful to distinguish universal and ethnic religions. Universal (or universalising) religions - such as Christianity, Islam and the various forms of Buddhism - seek world-wide acceptance by actively looking for and attracting new members (converts). Ethnic (or Park, C. (2004) Religion and geography. Chapter 17 in Hinnells, J. (ed) Routledge Companion to the Study of Religion. London: Routledge 5 cultural) religions, are very different in that they do not seek converts. Each is identified with a particular tribal or ethnic group. Tribal (or traditional) religions involve belief in some power or powers beyond humans, to which they can appeal for help. Examples include the souls of the departed, and spirits living on mountains, in stones, trees or animals. More broad based ethnic religions include Judaism, Shintoism, Hinduism and the Chinese moral-religious system (embracing Confucianism and Taoism), which mainly dominate one particular national culture.

Note that article classifies Hinduism as Ethnic Religion , so does Wikipedia.

Let me know if we have sufficient references.

I have added couple of sources from Google Books. Is it sufficient now? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Realphi (talk • contribs) 00:59, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

@Realphi: It's the additional sources that are helping, not the fact that it's in a textbook.

That said, if I'm following the classifications correctly, both Satanism and Pastafarianism should be included in universal religions, since they are not identified with a tribal or ethnic group. Correct? —C.Fred (talk) 01:26, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

If they claim to be explaining all the phenomena of the universe , then yes. If they are outsourcing 99% of explanations to science , then no. Also, probably important info will be how many temples do that have currently in the world and how many committed followers are attached with that philosophy. Also , generally , existence of supreme being with at least omniscience out of all the omnis will be required , because otherwise , how will you claim to explain everything? Also , it should be substantially different than existing universalizing religions for obvious reasons. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Realphi (talk • contribs) 02:27, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

If they are outsourcing 99% of explanations to science , then no. That'd include secular humanism. Ian.thomson (talk) 02:30, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

That's why secular humanism and scientism are considered kind of same religion and that's what article indicates. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Realphi (talk • contribs) 03:57, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

Facepalm That remaining 1% of secular humanism that isn't just science doesn't make religious claims, unless "this is not a religion" is somehow a religious doctrine. Ian.thomson (talk) 04:00, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

This is from Torcaso v. Watkins#Secular_humanism_as_religion. Also, common sense will say that majority of the people's conduct in today's world more or less follow principles of secular humanism in their day-to-day life. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Realphi (talk • contribs) 04:54, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

@Realphi: That's a US court case, though. Hrm. So if only secular humanists in the US are a religion—as in, the "religion" aspect is confined only to the US—wouldn't that qualify it as ethnic? —C.Fred (talk) 20:22, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

Addings

Hi well I'm a teenager and all this editing business is new to me .Sir I just wanted to add pictures and songs that teens love for eg:pictures of Edward Cullen of twilight and as for songs I would add images of lyrics so plz allow me to do that .

Thank you Lithe-thaa (talk) 16:56, 27 January 2018 (UTC)

@Lithe-thaa: What are the pictures that you've taken that you want to add? If it's a picture you just found on the web, you probably can't add it.

Even if they're images, you can't add lyrics to articles, because of concerns about copyright violations. —C.Fred (talk) 16:59, 27 January 2018 (UTC)

Fine then thank u. now how do I exit this account thing Lithe-thaa (talk) 17:02, 27 January 2018 (UTC)

@Lithe-thaa: If you're done editing for the day, hit the "Log out" button at the top right of the screen. —C.Fred (talk) 17:06, 27 January 2018 (UTC)

Paul George - 2018 NBA All-Star

I'm following up with your reply from Paul George's page. The NBA has officially updated the insertion of Paul George in the 2018 NBA All-Star game with an article on their website (http://global.nba.com/news/oklahoma-citys-paul-george-replace-cousins-team-lebron-2018-star-game/?cid=trafficdriver:nbacom:homepage). It includes a statement from NBA commissioner Adam Silver choosing Paul George as an injury replacement for DeMarcus Cousins.

@Jkang1995: I cited the NBA's release when I added it. —C.Fred (talk) 01:30, 28 January 2018 (UTC)

Domestic violence

Hi C.Fred, Looks like a sock puppet here, what do you think? - Samf4u (talk) 01:27, 29 January 2018 (UTC)

Reverting edits

I explained why content was removed. “Removed false information, added content” Do I need to detail exactly how each item is incorrect for you to not revert legitimate edits? Redbeard3006 (talk) 04:00, 31 January 2018 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Fart

Is this Wikipedia:Fart, or worthy of article:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5297849/Iran-lawyer-raises-concern-missing-hijab-protester.html

http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-42788549

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2018/01/23/iranian-woman-in-iconic-video-feared-to-have-been-arrested-after-waving-hijab-on-stick.html

http://www.latimes.com/world/middleeast/la-fg-iran-headscarf-20180124-htmlstory.html

http://metro.co.uk/2018/01/24/lawyer-took-off-hijab-protest-goes-missing-iran-7255213/

http://www.news.com.au/world/middle-east/the-reason-this-woman-has-become-a-symbol-of-revolution/news-story/dea7331ab2498e5b2f8ac878d0f64be0

There is article for similar Death of Neda Agha-Soltan.

Thanks,--Peter Dunkan (talk) 23:12, 26 January 2018 (UTC)

@Peter Dunkan: I don't follow your question. Death of Neda Agha-Soltan is amply cited and clearly suitable for an article. —C.Fred (talk) 23:33, 26 January 2018 (UTC)

I mean whether or not this arrested activist, who became "symbol of resistance" during 2017–18 Iranian protests per some sources, deserves article. Also, another problem is that her name is not known yet.--Peter Dunkan (talk) 00:23, 27 January 2018 (UTC)

@Peter Dunkan: Other stuff exists. I am not going to play the game of "does this warrant an article?" as you try to justify an article on Weidel. —C.Fred (talk) 01:31, 27 January 2018 (UTC)

I already said I agree with you on Weidel[6]. I'm no-longer advocating for an article on Weidel. This is a totally different thing. I'm just asking for your suggestion on whether or not this merits an article. "The lone woman has become a symbol of protest in Iran" from yet another source: [7]--Peter Dunkan (talk) 04:03, 27 January 2018 (UTC)

• Still, C.Fred, you'll have to admit that WP:FART is a lovely essay. Drmies (talk) 01:23, 2 February 2018 (UTC)

I Am Only Adding Relevant Facts.

C. Fred, Samf4U, Why Are You Guys Acting This Way?!! I Am Only Adding Relevant Factual Stuff to The Story. I Know that I Am NOT In The Wrong.This Makes NO Sense to Me. Axl Was In Rapidfire, They DID Record An E.P. Back In 1983 Called "Ready To Rumble." 3 Days Before They Broke Up.and I DOn't Understand Why You WOuldn't Want Fans to Know All The Facts.Namdaed18 (talk) 17:45, 3 February 2018 (UTC)

@Namdaed18: There is a technical issue with Rapidfire not being added properly to the infobox. There is a further issue with whether Rapidfire meets the criteria to be included as an associated act. That's why you should discuss the issue at Talk:Guns N' Roses to get support for the matter. —C.Fred (talk) 17:49, 3 February 2018 (UTC)

I Know That I AM Right! There is a Rapidfire Wikipedia, How's That For Verifiable?

Same as above. —C.Fred (talk) 17:49, 3 February 2018 (UTC)

I Wouldn't Do Anything to Disparage Guns N' Roses. My Favorite Band Since I was a Kid. And Still Are. Just Please Consider My Contributions.Namdaed18 (talk) 17:58, 3 February 2018 (UTC)

@Namdaed18: If they comply with the requirements, then they can be included. —C.Fred (talk) 18:02, 3 February 2018 (UTC)

Lord Blagoja

This Is The Third Time I have come to you ~ Bible.

Thank God you keep records of what you delete.

Can you update the deities page with the Information that Julian Assange has put on My bio - https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Lord_Blagoja_Eleninovski - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Lordblagoja

If you love Me, you will keep My commandments. And I will ask the Father, and He will give you another Advocate to be with you forever — the Spirit of truth. The world cannot receive Him, because it neither sees Him nor knows Him. But you do know Him, for He abides with you and He will be in you - John 14:16. Prophecy Fulfilled.

Update that fact that My Lord Jesus is Not a self made deity ~ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lists_of_deities

Lordblagoja (talk) 23:02, 3 February 2018 (UTC)

word of the day

"please" DrVogel (talk) 00:36, 4 February 2018 (UTC)

I don't know what mess you're talking about. I haven't finished editing yet. I will deal with the links before I finish. Why do you assume bad faith/incompetence? DrVogel (talk) 00:36, 4 February 2018 (UTC)

UCTV page

Hello, I am the Operations Assistant for UCTV and one of my jobs was to update our long neglected Wikipedia page. The main things I did was update our board of directors to the current people, change the website linked to our current one and add descriptions for our series that have been added or modified. I noticed all of my edits were reverted and I was told it was because I have a conflict of interest. I get how that could be concerning but the nature of things I'm adding are just updates to make the page relevant and populated with current information and not promotional material. What can I do to get this page updated if I can't do it myself? UCTVOpsAssistant (talk) 20:28, 6 February 2018 (UTC)

Reply at your talk page. —C.Fred (talk) 20:30, 6 February 2018 (UTC)

Notice

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is WP:CBAN for My Royal Young. Iggy (Swan) 00:08, 12 February 2018 (UTC)

Contesting your recent speedy deletion

@C.Fred: Thorns & Spells is not unambiguously promotional in the same way that Five Nights at Freddys, Tibia, or Bastion are not unambiguously promotional - to use just a few examples. There is nothing about the Thorns & Spells page that can be interpreted as more or even equally promotional to these other similar pages, which have not been deleted from Wikipedia. By that precedent, Thorns & Spells should also not be deleted. The page follows a very standard format for pages that describe video games and their development. Some pages - like Ashen Empires - have sections that describe details of development, launch, and monetization strategies which have encyclopedic value to other application or game developers. Thorns & Spells offers that same encyclopedic value, at least. There is also a place for Benny Schmidt and Thorns & Spells on various lists on Wikipedia, including List of indie game developers, which would add to the encyclopedic value of those lists. Please reconsider, thanks for your time. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bennyschmidt (talk • contribs) 22:52, 11 February 2018 (UTC)

@Bennyschmidt: Here's the thing: you were just turned down at AfC for an article about your game, and then you created it in article space. I could've speedy deleted it A7, non-notable web content, just as easily (or moreso) than G11. But because you were writing about your own game, the conflict of interest made the motive pretty clear. That's why it's a bad idea to start an article on your own projects. —C.Fred (talk) 02:12, 12 February 2018 (UTC)

@C.Fred: Whether or not another person declined it as an AfC is not a reason to speedy delete, you should provide some independent reason for why it must be speedy deleted, and perhaps why you removed half of the references - all of which are valid (Chrome Web Store isn't reliable, really?). I understand your eagerness to delete after seeing it be declined as an AfC, but the decliner had a conflict of interest in reviewing the article in the first place, and also, there are real third-party, reliable sources about Thorns & Spells online. It is a real game that real people play. There is encyclopedic value in the description of its development and supported platforms. Its existence on Wikipedia would enhance the encyclopedic value of other Wikipedia entries too, including List of indie game developers, and many other articles. The general knowledge base available on Wikipedia about indie games and their development has more value if there is more information about what exists and how they were developed. If a person is doing research on indie game developers, perhaps for another company's market research or product development research or for school, it would be beneficial to have a comprehensive list like List of indie game developers to reference - adding Thorns & Spells only further completes that list. Most of those lists don't like red links and require that a page exists. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bennyschmidt (talk • contribs) 02:42, 12 February 2018 (UTC)

@Bennyschmidt: I didn't remove any references. And a game with 400 players...sorry, I don't see inherent significance or importance there, and I don't see substantial independent coverage. —C.Fred (talk) 02:44, 12 February 2018 (UTC)

I concur with CFred, and deleted it a second time as non-notable web content. Chrome webstore isn't useful to establish notability. Mere existence doesn't qualify a subject for inclusion in a global encyclopedia, and Wikipedia isn't meant as a general knowledge base for online game content. Furthermore, I strongly advise you to review the best practices outlined at WP:COI. Acroterion (talk) 02:45, 12 February 2018 (UTC)

@C.Fred: You are missing the point. First that's active players, not total players, and also number of players does not equate to significance. You would be surprised how low the numbers are for active players even in very popular games. Here's a game that never launched and thus had 0 players and still has a page: Titan (because the publisher is notable). My point is that number of players is not the determining factor of significance, that is a logical error on your part. For Thorns & Spells, its encyclopedic value is that it enters the general knowledge base about indie games and their development. Please browse List of indie game developers - you may also find the majority of those titles insignificant too in your opinion, but that's because you think number of players equates with significance. The Polish article I referenced did receive significant coverage in Poland. The majority of players are in Poland and Brazil. Please step outside of your own pre-conceived biases and see it from another angle where it adds encyclopedic value to Wikipedia.

Its encyclopedic value is that it enters the general knowledge base about indie games and their development. Please browse List of indie game developers and realize that Thorns & Spells belongs in this list, and others. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bennyschmidt (talk • contribs) 02:54, 12 February 2018 (UTC)

where do i release a new picture?

i don't care what photo is used, just NOT one of the artist pregnant out of respect for the child. this is unacceptable. i don't know who granted permission of this photo to be used, but it is one of a pregnant lady and it needs to be replaced immediately.

please tell me how to change this photo

@Sudburysaturday: Do you have the picture posted on your website with a statement that it is either under a Creative Commons license or in the public domain? —C.Fred (talk) 02:54, 12 February 2018 (UTC)

http://katemaki.com/images.html

all of these images here are public domain — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sudburysaturday (talk • contribs) 02:59, 12 February 2018 (UTC)

@Sudburysaturday: You need to add a notice to that effect on the page with the images, or you need to email Wikimedia Commons to confirm your identity and make the donation. —C.Fred (talk) 03:03, 12 February 2018 (UTC)

what is the email to make the donation? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sudburysaturday (talk • contribs) 03:12, 12 February 2018 (UTC)

@Sudburysaturday: There's a link to an interactive submission form at Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted materials. —C.Fred (talk) 03:14, 12 February 2018 (UTC)

submission, permission, new "not pregnant photo" sent - needs to be replaced out of respect....thanks for your assistance — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sudburysaturday (talk • contribs) 03:37, 12 February 2018 (UTC)

curious - are you able to upload a new not pregnant photo from a site like flickr? would those photos be considered public domain? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sudburysaturday (talk • contribs) 04:05, 12 February 2018 (UTC)

@Sudburysaturday: Depends on the photographer and how they chose to release the image. As a rule, though, no. —C.Fred (talk) 04:18, 12 February 2018 (UTC)

Speedy Deletion

Why you have put the speedy deletion of Prakash Neupane? This article have enough references to get approved. Always it goes to speedy deletion please remove that and approve it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by SeytX (talk • contribs) 01:48, 8 February 2018 (UTC)

@SeytX: Because the community has discussed the matter and decided he is not notable enough for an article. —C.Fred (talk) 02:02, 8 February 2018 (UTC)

@C.Fred: You can check his website and huffingtonpost and imdb too which are notable and other various media links. You may check them once. — Preceding unsigned comment added by SeytX (talk • contribs) 02:07, 8 February 2018 (UTC)

@SeytX: IMDB? I didn't see anything in the article about TV or film appearances. The Huffpo article is the only thing that has me on the fence. —C.Fred (talk) 02:13, 8 February 2018 (UTC)

@C.Fred: Ok if it seems so than sorry for the disturbance you can remove the articles according to the wikipedia policy. I respect you desicion. When i'll gather more ref in future i'll ping you. one Love. SeytX (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 02:23, 8 February 2018 (UTC)

@C.Fred: I have findout some music references of him i think this will be useful for undeletion

Album Prakash Tunes:- https://themusic.today/release/prakash-neupane-prakash-tunes/9100407

Prakash Neupane on Spotify:- https://open.spotify.com/artist/68nKmk3dVlsLeVfl4b0sOd Official Website:- https://prakashneupane.com/ Prakash tunes on Amazon:- https://www.amazon.com/Prakash-Tunes-Neupane/dp/B0753564X4 Prakash Neupane on IMDB:- http://www.imdb.com/name/nm9315412/ Genius:- https://genius.com/artists/Prakash-neupane Dezzer:- https://www.deezer.com/us/artist/11130226 Musixmatch:- https://www.musixmatch.com/artist/Prakash-Neupane Music Wiki:- http://music.wikia.com/wiki/Prakash_Neupane_(musician) Prakash on huffingtonpost:- https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/nepali-rap-artist-praksh-neupanes-new-bang-on-nepali_us_59d5a96be4b085c51090ada8 Prakash on Itunes:- https://itunes.apple.com/us/artist/prakash-neupane/1002362886 Shazam:- https://www.shazam.com/artist/203379735/prakash-neupane U Got Me (767k+ On Youtube):- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZJGuS7oAvg Sunana :- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLPxBgZHrL8 Wikidata:- https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q44370781 SeytX (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 17:45, 12 February 2018 (UTC)

@SeytX: The only one of those that might count toward meeting WP:GNG is the Huffington Post article. —C.Fred (talk) 20:32, 12 February 2018 (UTC)

@C.Fred: Oh So sad . Can it be undeleted with huffpost one or needed more reliable sources? — Preceding unsigned comment added by SeytX (talk • contribs) 20:57, 12 February 2018 (UTC)

@SeytX: No. The community has already discussed the matter. It would take more than just one source. —C.Fred (talk) 21:03, 12 February 2018 (UTC)

Citations

I had seven (7) citations. They were noted in the body of the several paragraph entry, and they were listed in a references section at the end. They included newspapers, dates, article titles, and page numbers!

I have researched Harry Woods (my maternal grandfather) for several years, and wanted to see the Wikipedia page do him justice, but all you did was to revert my offering and many hours of work back to the original.

Your system is very difficult to use--I haven't a clue how you want sources included. Please email or phone directly so I can make my offering to grandfather's memory with the dignity and love he deserves.

SenorterrySenorterry (talk) 21:53, 13 February 2018 (UTC)

@Senorterry: Your comments about your "grandfather's memory" are precisely why we have the conflict of interest guidelines in place. You should not be editing his article directly. You may make recommendations about changes on the article's talk page, however.

Further, on the reverts I made, you did not actually include any sources. —C.Fred (talk) 21:55, 13 February 2018 (UTC)

Use of Cult Leader

Greetings C. Fred,

I appreciate your interest in the Sathya Sai Baba (SSB) article on wikipedia. However, I was disturbed by such a reckless use of the term "cult leader".

While the use of cult leader is good for tabloid sales, it has come to be a derogatory term, and doesn't belong in the first line of a description of a subject on wikipedia, unless thoroughly proven and held to be true by a majority of sources (your two sources are quite inadequate). It might belong in an allegations section if there is sufficient proof and source given, but the first line of a description of something should be unbiased and NON-POV. It must be neutral for it to be a good wikipedia article.

Your use of it in regards to the Sathya Sai Baba Movement or Organization is close to absurd to an informed reader.

Consider the following which may explain the differences between a cult and the Sai Organization. The information is drawn from two books on cults: Mindbending: Brainwashing, Cults, and Deprogramming (by Lowell Streiker, Doubleday, New York, 1984) and Encyclopedic Handbook of Cults in America (by J. Melton, Garland Publishing, New York, 1986).

Streiker indicates that a real cult will lack the following characteristics:

Genuine concern for members' welfare, Appreciation of constructive criticism from non-believers, and Active encouragement of dialogue between members and outside world.

None of these are present in the Sathya Sai Baba Organization as it is called. It is an open to all and free organization operating many, many charity projects throughout the world, has guidelines against proselytizing about Sathya Sai Baba, has strict guidelines against requiring or even requesting members to donate money (which is one of its most impressive features among all organizations, religious or otherwise), and consistently teaches that all faiths and religions are valid ways to God. Most anyone who has attended any SSB functions would surely attest to the same.

Beyond that, there are nine major characteristics of cults as noted in the sources above, for the sake of brevity I will address a few of the key ones here (numbered 1,2,3,5), though all can easily be shown to be non-applicable to this group. In the references for quotes from Sathya Sai Baba, "SSS" stands for the old editions of Sathya Sai Speaks, which were books compiling his public discourses:

1. With a real cult, primary cult activities are fund raising and recruiting new members. 2.With a real cult members are encouraged to cut off communication with family and friends. They are isolated from the outside world and any reality testing it could provide. 3. Cult members hand over possessions and earnings and become totally dependent on group. 5. The cult is the only possessor of truth --others are unsaved and hostile to truth.

Consider Sathya Sai Baba's quotes below: -Fund collection is as much opposed to this movement as fire is to water. (SSS VII, 5, p. 34) -Do not develop fanaticism or sectarianism. (SSS VI, 7, p. 37) -You have to teach the equal validity of all faiths. (SSS X, 55, p. 283) -Do not imagine that your task is to propagate Baba and speak of Baba and his message. (SSS IX, 35, p. 191) -Your primary task is to discharge your duty. This does not mean renouncing worldly life or your obligations to your family. (Sanathana Sarathi, February 1992, p. 37) -Whoever may ask, even if they say that I have authorized them, do not give them a penny. (SSS VII, 57, p. 307) -Where money is asked and offered, I have no place. (SSS IV, 69, p. 392) -I have not come on behalf of any exclusive religion. I have not come on a mission of publicity for a sect or creed or cause, nor have I come to collect followers for a doctrine. I have no plan to attract disciples or devotees into my fold or any fold. I have come to tell you of this unitary faith, this spiritual principle, this path of Love, this virtue of Love, this duty of Love, this obligation of Love. drawn from discourse delivered by SSB in Nairobi (Kenya, East Africa) on the 4th of July in 1968

Bearing all this in mind C. Fred, kindly remove entirely, or at least move from the first line to a more appropriate section the term "cult leader", it does not belong in the basic first line description of this subject. Objectiveap (talk) 17:45, 13 February 2018 (UTC)

Sources say cult leader, we just summarize sources. We don't use editor interpretation. Ian.thomson (talk) 17:56, 13 February 2018 (UTC)

@Objectiveap: I have to agree with Ian.thomson's point. When the source says "cult leader", our article should be representative of the source and use that same term.

Furthermore, a quick look at the talk history and article history shows this is a long-standing issue, and a quick look at the usernames involved in prior incidents shows that there have been some non-neutral editors involved. While I do assume good faith in all editors' contributions, I find it a bit suspect that your first edit was to this article and your second to my user talk page (which is curious, as my involvement has been in cleaning up obvious vandalism). Combined with your username, it raises questions about whether your true intent is to edit in a manner that upholds WP:NPOV. —C.Fred (talk) 21:38, 13 February 2018 (UTC)

@C.Fred Certainly each member of wikipedia may have some spark of interest which inclines them to get involved the first time. While I understand you hesitance based on your past experience of postings on this topic, it's important to realize that I am not a vandal, and if you honor truth, than you and I are working for the same thing. This is a first post on wikipedia under any user name or any category for me. I am not looking to start a fight here, but be advised you happen to have arrived at the wrong opinion here, and I'm not inclined to back off of it. You know, when I was getting my degree in philosophy a professor once told me "Being a Great Philospher is not Prophylactic against making a bad argument sometimes." Happens to the best. Wikipedia is about objective truth, the ideas expressed and the sources used are what are relevant, not the length of tenure on this website. The sources for the description as a "spiritual leader" are as follows and they will be added to the article: The New York Times, The BBC, The Telegraph, The Times of India, and many more (though I will limit citations to these four for now unless you require more) - if there are objective sources that would call him a cult leader, they are are by far in the minority, and it's a derogatory term, I think at some point you will agree it does not belong in the first line description. If you'd like to use Ian Thomas' argument that we just summarize the sources, In all fairness I think you would agree that the sources I'm citing of how SSB is referred to objectively are stronger much sources than "The Sun" (a tabloid that uses inflammatory and absurd language as the backbone of it's sales process and has no business being a source for wikipedia, and one which damages the credibility of anyone who cites it as a source btw - recommend getting off that train as soon as possible) and "Anthropological Quarterly" I don't know what kind of esteem this publication has but I've never heard of it and the author of the article seems hung up on the word cult, applying it to multiple things where it does not apply. And on a personal level, you seem to have ignored entirely in your reply all the citations I gave above for edification on why SSB organization is not a cult. The group does tremendous amounts of good work throughout the world. The word "Cult" is a slanderous term and does not belong in an objective first line description of this group. Thank you for bearing with this reply and I wish you good things. Objectiveap (talk) 15:42, 14 February 2018 (UTC)

Decided not to put 4 sources on the page at it is too cluttered - here is the fourth and there are many more which all consistently refer to him as a spiritual leader: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/india/8429276/Indian-spiritual-leader-in-critical-condition.html - best regards Objectiveap (talk) 16:08, 14 February 2018 (UTC)

Deletion

Hi Admin one of the admin deleted Bishow Gautam and the reason is repeatedly created. i think the page contains enough reliable sources and featured several times in Huffpost and nypost and other strong media and blogs. I request you to undelete that page. i ping you cause i know you're good. Thanks SeytX (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 19:40, 13 February 2018 (UTC)

@SeytX: Sorry, but I endorse the deletion. I don't see where the objections stated at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bishwo Gautam were addressed, so the article is a substantial recreation. Further, it's an end-run recreation with an intentional misspelling to avoid protection of another title. —C.Fred (talk) 21:41, 13 February 2018 (UTC)

@C.Fred: Thankyou for your view admin. Well if that's the problem than it should be deleted. Respect <3 SeytX (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 21:29, 14 February 2018 (UTC)

71.198.2.72

This IP doesn't actually appear to be blocked, despite their interesting unblock request. Is there a chance you could actually place a block? Home Lander (talk) 01:29, 15 February 2018 (UTC)

@Home Lander: I'm refraining for now because the IP has been quiet for a while. If they come back, then I will. —C.Fred (talk) 05:32, 15 February 2018 (UTC)

Oh, facepalm. I could have read the unblock request more closely and realized it was an autoblock on the IP (I'm guessing, from your block on their account). Thanks. Home Lander (talk) 15:25, 15 February 2018 (UTC)

@Home Lander: I even missed that. Or I thought the IP was directly blocked. Not that it affects the outcome, though. —C.Fred (talk) 19:29, 15 February 2018 (UTC)

Well it's confirmed to that account now, and the IP is blocked through mid-March. Thanks for picking up on that account so quick. Home Lander (talk) 15:52, 16 February 2018 (UTC)

Throwing out "Speedy deletions" like candy

I uploaded my Dizzy Reed photo to his page, because the old photo was over 10 years old, and within 2 minutes, you had marked it for a speedy deletion. The file is 100% property of me, and I am allowing it for non-commercial use only. I own the photo entirely, and nobody has permission to manipulate that, or the photo, in any way. So mind your own business and stay away from MY photo. Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bentsphotos (talk • contribs) 20:22, 16 February 2018 (UTC)

@Bentsphotos: Then as I explained, we cannot use your photo on Wikipedia. Per the deletion tag, "non-commercial use" and "non-derivative use" restrictions render the license non-free. Unless you remove the restrictions, the image cannot be used and must be deleted. —C.Fred (talk) 20:25, 16 February 2018 (UTC)

Clearing sth

Hello. I'm sorry for the mess in the Ottoman Sultans Articles. I'm an Admin on ar. wiki, and that user was just messing around for some reason. We face alot of similar people on ar. wiki who just wanna change historical facts for racial/religious reasons and obviously this person is one of them. I usually have a hard time trying to talk sense into such people, even when you face them with relaiable sources (including historical sources and biographies about certain people who themselves say "we belive in such, we are such"), since they already have an Advance conviction.

I'm a PhD Student in Ottoman Studies and the info that was changed by that user was totally inacurate, and i couldn't just let it pass as false info to readers. Please excuse me again. Best--باسم (talk) 21:49, 17 February 2018 (UTC)

@باسم: Thank you for stopping short of a fourth revert and letting this get dealt with by admins here. I've seen a lot of editors across a lot of topics who come in with an agenda to push. —C.Fred (talk) 21:52, 17 February 2018 (UTC)

Pelahatchie High School Opening Paragraph

Hi! I would like to add more content to my opening paragraph on the Pelahatchie High School page; I tried adding the address, but you removed it. What would you suggest I add to improve my opening paragraph? Thank you so much for your help! Lau209 (talk) 01:01, 19 February 2018 (UTC)

@Lau209: One thing to take a look at is introductory sentences from other high school articles. Amador Valley High School would be a good model to look at: it's a featured article, the highest quality rating an article can get. The other thing to remember is that the introduction should summarize the rest of the article, just giving the key points. —C.Fred (talk) 01:10, 19 February 2018 (UTC)

Request to look into this

please take a look at Rizwan Ahmed (bureaucrat) where there are two tags regarding OR and unrealiable references. There hasn't been a concensus regarding the tag being placed on the top of the page to generalise the article or at indiviual sentences to point out faults, as most of the matter mentioned is already backed by references containing leading newspapers. Thank you (Regent007 (talk) 16:48, 19 February 2018 (UTC))

Thank you

For dealing with Talk:Mustang. Best wishes.(Littleolive oil (talk) 21:01, 21 February 2018 (UTC))

Writing an article for my company

Hi, I work for a Production company who have asked me to create a page for them. I started one, however, I clearly feel that I am well out of my depth and seem to be struggling with the impartial view and gaining references to cite. Is it possible to get someone not in my company to write the article? If not I have the draft in my draft space to look at. Simon8472 (talk) 17:53, 22 February 2018 (UTC)

@Simon8472: If you work for the company, it really should be created by somebody else. WP:Articles for creation is the place to go for article requests. —C.Fred (talk) 19:11, 22 February 2018 (UTC)

Discussion for deletion:

So today I got a wikipedia to learn how it worked.....first random generated article given was John Monday. Saw that it was up for AfD, so I tried to save it by working hard in doing research. What do you think will happen? As I am new to wikipedia and I am just learning the ropes, do you think all my hard work will have gone to waste? I get it if that is the case with wiki's policy or what not, but is there any hope in saving the article? I am happy to do more research.... if not, I will just click on the next random generated article that wikipedia sends my way for me to work on and edit to continue my wiki journey......Thanks in advance Wikifulwonderment (talk) 22:56, 23 February 2018 (UTC)

@Wikifulwonderment: Right now, it looks like consensus is to delete the article. There's the possibility that it might be sent back to draft space to incubate a little more and try to become a full article later. —C.Fred (talk) 22:57, 23 February 2018 (UTC)

@C.Fred (not sure if I pinged you correctly...still learning)...

-->>I enjoy researching the web for fun. Perhaps since I am a new user and you have more privileges than me, you could post a suggestion to move it to draft and I could keep working on it there? Wikifulwonderment (talk) 23:00, 23 February 2018 (UTC)

@Wikifulwonderment: You don't need to ping users on their own talk pages; they get a notification automatically.

I'll take a look and see if there's enough to salvage to draft. —C.Fred (talk) 23:25, 23 February 2018 (UTC)

Verification of when obama loved Osama upcoming Movie

All Deatails of when obama loved Osama web link- https://www.imdb.com/title/tt7926824/reference?mode=desktop& Aliya Pr (talk) 20:53, 26 February 2018 (UTC)

Reply at your talk page. —C.Fred (talk) 20:57, 26 February 2018 (UTC)

when obama loved osama artcial

when Obama loved Osama news - https://www.bhaskar.com/uttar-pradesh/agra/news/UP-AGRA-bollywood-actress-interview-5610270-PHO.html

please update this Wikipedia page  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aliyahasan (talk • contribs) 09:11, 27 February 2018 (UTC) 

@Aliyahasan: That source barely discusses the film. There's nothing to really update the article with, nor is it enough coverage to meet WP:GNG. —C.Fred (talk) 21:51, 27 February 2018 (UTC)

How to make new tittle name??

I want do new tittle name on Wikipedia. Help or guide me please Aliya Pr (talk) 21:56, 27 February 2018 (UTC)

@Aliyahasan: I'm not sure what you're asking. A new article? —C.Fred (talk) 22:00, 27 February 2018 (UTC)

How to new user name make on Wikipedia ?? I want do new user name ?? Aliya Pr (talk) 22:05, 27 February 2018 (UTC)

To change your username, see WP:CHU. —C.Fred (talk) 02:23, 28 February 2018 (UTC)

Mason

Could you put Mason "Trucker" Rucker back up? I was just talking about my life! Comet11 (talk) 01:25, 1 March 2018 (UTC)

Responded on user's talk page. Ian.thomson (talk) 01:29, 1 March 2018 (UTC)

Connection Pointe Christian Church of Brownsburg

Thanks for the new info. I wasn't aware of that. Just trying to update our information so it's accurate. Is there anyway you could review and republish for COI? Because we aren't a major wikipedia source of traffic the information was very out of date. B.Reeves (talk) 03:49, 1 March 2018 (UTC)

References

You're 21 Questions - 50 Cent!

"Congratulations New York City you are now Raleigh" means "congratulations New England you are now Upland South"! --I Have Always Been a Twin (talk) 16:34, 1 March 2018 (UTC)

@I Have Always Been a Twin: And neither of those make any sense. —C.Fred (talk) 16:35, 1 March 2018 (UTC)

@C.Fred: I am not barely above Boston! Besides, Boston is in the Upland South, that's Christina Kirkman with Caroline and Olivia Carney! Remember what The Stalicas and I were "we are not Massachusetts anymore we are now Maine if we are mine" and that's the wrong guy out there for me if he just made me say that I'm not Maine but Massachusetts. --I Have Always Been a Twin (talk) 16:40, 1 March 2018 (UTC)

@I Have Always Been a Twin: I don't care where you are. It's hard to argue Boston being in the South by any stretch of the definition. The rest of your comment, frankly, borders on incoherent. —C.Fred (talk) 16:43, 1 March 2018 (UTC)

@C.Fred: Well your ping is relevant, but not pings to or for Play and Bjork, yet, Hannah Montana! --I Have Always Been a Twin (talk) 16:55, 1 March 2018 (UTC)

Lol

OMG It was just for fun!! YESYESGIRL1980 (talk) 16:53, 3 March 2018 (UTC)

My comment to you a few minutes ago, concerning Rebecca Sommer:

I do not have the intention of "publishing" my comment, but to write to Wikipedia protest with the wikipedia administrators against the proposed deletion of the article on Rebecca Sommer, on her behalf. After all, Wikipedia has suggested to Rebecca Sommer to do so (and threatened to go ahead with the deletion if she does not). Thus, please look into the matter and see to it that this article does not get deleted. Thanks Protocol Matters (talk) 13:21, 4 March 2018 (UTC)

Reply at your talk page. Please keep the thread there. —C.Fred (talk) 13:22, 4 March 2018 (UTC)

Sammy Sosa II

Hi C.Fred, I am wondering if you could offer your thoughts, perhaps even briefly, to Talk:Sammy Sosa#Haitian ancestry down where it says third opinion.

The argument is that Miniaturas del béisbol by Héctor J. Cruz of Listin Diario, is a "weak source" even though its contents therein agree with multiple sources in regards to Haitian athletes in the Dominican Republic, hence why I disagree; citing that "such sources like this one could not contribute to Wikipedia biographies of living people because there is no self-identification given (autobiography)", which is a flat out false interpretation of WP:BLPSPS. If that was the case, 95% of our Wikipedia articles would not have any biographic content. I think the solution is clear, the source in question needs to be verified by an additional source.

Based on a faulty and current third opinion (actually "fourth opinion"), Osplace has taken the opportunity to not only venture to other articles to remove this source, but also did so to articles which had supporting source(s), all why slandering me for supposedly "[Haitianizing] Dominican athletes", citing Luisito Pié's article, which mind you is undeniably of Haitian descent and was even mocked and degraded by a Dominican news reporter for hoisting the Dominican flag during the Olympics with all sorts of racial slurs [8]; so not sure why he was singling him out on me.

Sammy Sosa's ancestry is minor in comparison to the bigger scope here, which is the unknown status of Dominican athletes of Haitian descent and their contributions to the sport bridged between the Dominican Baseball system and the MLB that I hope to help uncover. (It's enough for ESPN to write a whole feature story about it The complicated state of Haitian Dominicans in MLB)

If the source in question [9] (a 2008 achieve from a reputable newspaper publishing) was such a "weak" one, as our third opinionator is suggesting, then it would not agree with sources like El Dinero and Hoy, two reputable publications (not to mention a "second" editor from Listin Diario [10]), in terms of the statuses of Haitian athletes in the Dominican Baseball system, which from a biography perspective too, share many of the same names.

Your thoughts would be greatly appreciated. Thank you kindly. Savvyjack23 (talk) 03:15, 6 March 2018 (UTC)

French Guiana

Hello C.Fred. Sorry about the edit that I have just made (which you have undone). I was mistaken. I thought that I read "French Guiana", whereas it was "French Guinea". It makes sense to make the distinction. I was mainly practising making edits. I would like to change the title below the yellow and green flag in the History section to "Former departmental flag of French Guiana" or "Departmental flag of French Guiana between 2010 and 2015", as the General Council which adopted this flag in 2010 no longer exists and was replaced by another entity which did not adopt this flag. I also think that the flag next to "French Guiana" and "French Guiana portal" at the bottom of the page should be France's flag, as it is its official flag. What do you think of these proposed changes? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Westferrian (talk • contribs) 00:56, 10 March 2018 (UTC)

Heflin-Tolbert Judicial Building

The top of the article still says Alabama Judicial Building but that is not and never has been the name the official name is the Heflin-Tolbert Judicial Building how can the top of it be changed? Thanks. Z35282992 (talk) 16:18, 10 March 2018 (UTC)

@Z35282992: Even though that's the official name of the building, a quick glance at the sources shows the common name is the Alabama Judicial Building. That's the name that should appear in the introduction and as the title of the article. If you disagree, you can open discussion at Talk:Alabama Judicial Building; be prepared to show that reliable sources commonly refer to the building as HTJB and not AJB. —C.Fred (talk) 16:23, 10 March 2018 (UTC)

I think we have a compromise. Z35282992 (talk) 16:26, 10 March 2018 (UTC) How can we fix the top though to reflect the actual and official name instead of the unofficial name? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Z35282992 (talk • contribs) 16:27, 10 March 2018 (UTC)

@Z35282992: You need to establish consensus that the most commonly used name is HTJB. Follow the directions at WP:RM. —C.Fred (talk) 16:29, 10 March 2018 (UTC)

Hall Pass Movie Edit

I have tried to add the number of times "hall pass" is said during the movie Hall Pass. I initially didnt provide a source but then did by referencing the imsdb page with the actual screenplay. If you use the "find" command and type in phrase search "hall pass" you will see it is listed 43 times (this includes title and footer) so the actual number is 41. What else do I need to do to post this comment? Also, if we need to add a trivia section, I think you should consider doing so. This question comes up quite often when watching the movie. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Adamsporrer27 (talk • contribs) 19:11, 10 March 2018 (UTC)

I've had it

This is absurd. I've lost any motivation to attempt communication with this user anymore, as I don't think they are capable of understanding. I don't think they've made a single constructive edit and are just causing disruption, intended or not. Thoughts? --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 19:41, 7 March 2018 (UTC)

@Drm310: She's right on the border with these edits to List of programs broadcast by Freeform today; that's the only thing she's done to article space today, so I'm not quite seeing anything I'm ready to block her over. —C.Fred (talk) 20:44, 7 March 2018 (UTC)

I hope you don't mind but I've been back through that user's older edits and quietly rolled a few of them back. Just an idea but would it be worth trying to invite this user to do some training for example The Wikipedia Adventure? WyrmVane (talk) 23:22, 8 March 2018 (UTC)

@WyrmVane: You're welcome to try. —C.Fred (talk) 23:53, 8 March 2018 (UTC)

Thank you. I think this user might be a sockpuppet of Zoë2000.WyrmVane (talk) 22:28, 9 March 2018 (UTC)

Thank you again for your help with that user. Based on the comments people have been making on the talk page of Squared2 (web series) I have nominated it for deletion. I did not see that you had done some more work on it until after I nominated it. WyrmVane (talk) 22:13, 10 March 2018 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Barnstar of Diligence
	Hi, thank you for helping the community via such a great character. Avaay (talk) 22:56, 10 March 2018 (UTC)

QuasarDB

Hello C.Fred, thank you for the information. will make sure that does not happen again. Will talk in the comment section. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Matt44Ro (talk • contribs) 01:12, 11 March 2018 (UTC)

Hi

Hi mate, how are you, answer, may I ask you to answer the subject is accepted through GNG? I am not asking you for a favor, rather I'll explain to you why so that you can with ethics change your answer. The subject in the matter is an icon for Ethiopian football, he's been in Ethiopian radios, following with his words in an interview appearing in EBC TV which is the central and government TV channel of Ethiopia. DireTube as well is not close to a blog, or routine page but Ethiopia's biggest platform where over 200 people actually commented on the subject and he was spoken about in a highly matter showing very high coverage. I don't want to become a hypocrite and saying that it would be hypocritical to delete this subject when we accept thai-players who has only played 1 or 2 games in the league but sources are fully or almost over fully not reliable, it might as well been a page created and edited by someone... You understand my point mate? All in all, he is very suited for note via GNG, he's suited via following:"Significant coverage" addresses the topic directly and in detail so that no original research is needed to extract the content. Significant coverage is more than a trivial mention, but it does not need to be the main topic of the source material., <-- he has been in an exclusive interview with what I know two Swedish newspapers (or could be more I only know 2) who wrote him in the first page with a fully page on only him, he had a full interview in radio that many small Ethiopian TV channels broadcasted and the major EBC TV aswell... I am counting on you pal, think of it as a favor to me but with ethics as well... and by the way may you note that it dosn't matter if he fails WP:FOOTY if he's acceptable to GNG which he is to the person who was against it in the discussion, if you want I can send you puctures of him in the magazine and at 11:13 January4 he was recorded in Aftonbladet silly season notice which is swedens biggest news-platforms of all times and he blew in swedish-football community where everyone talked about him, and about a week ago he was in radio where he himself admitted that a possible move is in the coming months... again GNG is via ethiopia and his adimre alongside EFF-president who spoke so highly of him. Thank my friend, I hope you see this and answer in my favor, if you are very not wanting to answer in my favor, then don't answer against it please I'm already having trouble with one perosn who wanted to delete, your best/Avaay (talk) 10:45, 11 March 2018 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Barnstar of Diligence
	Thank you for your help. Avaay (talk) 11:06, 11 March 2018 (UTC)

Protection

If you think that it is not enough vandilism then I think it's okay. I have barely joined Wikipedia so I can be inexperienced, thanks for your help. AllTimeChampion17 (talk) 03:34, 14 March 2018 (UTC)

SOS I am barely 30 minutes new to editing for the first time on this site

I don't understand why the facts that I added were removed? I have no issues with anyone so don't quite understand the messages sent to me with the ! and the stop sign symbol.

@Shetours: Let's review. You've admitted you're related to a subject you're writing about. You've added material without independent sourcing. You've added material with biased, non-neutral language. At least four editors—all experienced, and two of whom are administrators—have reverted your edits because of the numerous problems with the text. Further, some edits were some egregiously bad that the automated edit filter rejected them.

Your actions demonstrate that you don't understand Wikipedia policy. You need to stop, take a breath, and read the policies. Start with the conflict of interest guidelines, then neutral point of view, ownership of articles (hint: no user owns an article, and subjects definitely don't own articles about them), and reliable sources. You've been provided information on these. If you continue to edit in ways that go against the guidelines, then at some point the decision will be made that because of your unwillingness to abide by policies, your edits are disruptive, and you'll be blocked.

Thank you for taking the time to ask this question at my talk page. That shows that you're trying to understand what's going on. —C.Fred (talk) 02:11, 15 March 2018 (UTC)

label

Ive added citations number 13 and 35 but dont know how to fill in name of reference and time and date, can you pls label it [11] (119.153.37.29 (talk) 20:55, 15 March 2018 (UTC)), thanks

Crush fetish

Please take a look at the article history. A user keeps restoring photos of him crushing various creatures You removed them, then I removed them twice. I started a discussion about it on the talk page. Regards. Edison (talk) 21:48, 15 March 2018 (UTC)

@Edison: I blocked the editor per WP:NOTHERE [12] a few minutes ago. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 21:53, 15 March 2018 (UTC)

Need to be able to make a page but my title got protected

Hi C.Fred, I need to create a wikipedia page but the title is now protected. I will adjust the copy and content for the page, please can we try and sort something out on the issue.

Thank You

Truehumanpillar (talk) 19:36, 16 March 2018 (UTC) truehumanpillar

@Truehumanpillar: If you're referring to Baroque worldwide, you've created two inappropriate pages for it. Both were inappropriately promotional in tone and failed to show the significance or importance of the company. If you have a version that you think is free of spam, you can try working on it at Draft:Baroque Worldwide; if it's up to standards, then admins or experienced editors can help move the text to mainspace. —C.Fred (talk) 19:39, 16 March 2018 (UTC)

Hi C.Fred, Thank you for the speedy response, can you please give me some pointers as to what can be changed, I am new at posting here and would like some guidance. Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Truehumanpillar (talk • contribs) 20:11, 16 March 2018 (UTC)

@Truehumanpillar: The big problem is that instead of reading like an encyclopedia article, it reads like an advertisement. The whole Creation + Production section needs to be gutted. As far as significance, the Cannes Lions nominations would make an assertion of significance; you need to make sure to provide citations to independent reliable sources, like newspapers and trade journals, that have covered the nominations. —C.Fred (talk) 20:30, 16 March 2018 (UTC)

Thank you C.Fred, I really hope I can make the page under that name. I hope there is a chance. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Truehumanpillar (talk • contribs) 20:43, 16 March 2018 (UTC)

Sam Bradford

I feel what I’ve been contributing is useful for young viewers and I would like a clear answer to why my additions were removed Thank you HpNy2k18 HpNy2k18 (talk) 04:39, 17 March 2018 (UTC)

@HpNy2k18: Adding lyrics to a restaurant commercial is not constructive. —C.Fred (talk) 04:40, 17 March 2018 (UTC)

Best Way to Help WP

I heard you have quite a reputation here on WP, leaving aside our constructive work on SSB article which we can engage in there, wow that's a controversial topic, I actually have taken to WP and enjoy editing - I had a quick question for you: What is the best way to help wikipedia? IE what are the jobs that need doing but no one wants to do? Best, Objectiveap (talk) 17:37, 18 March 2018 (UTC)

CFred

Hello,

My submission is simply in honor of an event I worked on with my father for 20 years here in Luzerne County, PA. I have recently retired, and have time to write about memories. The Folk Festival is no longer held due to the deaths of many who cherished their cultures and traditions while becoming Americans, but is is a cherished memory for many. LCFolkFest (talk) 21:32, 18 March 2018 (UTC) (LCFest)

@LCFolkFest: Please make sure the event meets our criteria for notability before trying to write about it, after you change your username. —C.Fred (talk) 21:59, 18 March 2018 (UTC)

Teacake

I don't know about this. But this and this edit there may have seem that the user may be attempting to harass me. Do you think that it would be possible for you to delete those edits made by that user? Raritydash (talk) 23:09, 18 March 2018 (UTC)

@Raritydash: I just took out the message they left on your usertalk. I'll clean up the article now as well. —C.Fred (talk) 23:13, 18 March 2018 (UTC)

Well, thanks for taking that care of that. I also sent thanks on one of your edits. Raritydash (talk) 23:18, 18 March 2018 (UTC)

Why would you do this

You threatened me with a ban because i said goombas are short, that's a fact — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sand undertale (talk • contribs) 00:17, 19 March 2018 (UTC)

@Sand undertale: The fake "live action" image was what got the warning at the Goomba article. —C.Fred (talk) 00:22, 19 March 2018 (UTC)

It was a picture of the goomba from the live action movie

@Sand undertale: There's no image; it's a redlink. —C.Fred (talk) 00:27, 19 March 2018 (UTC)

I'm not verified yet so i can't post images

@Sand undertale: So you can't add images to articles, either. —C.Fred (talk) 00:30, 19 March 2018 (UTC)

That's correct — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sand undertale (talk • contribs) 00:31, 19 March 2018 (UTC)

@Sand undertale: So don't. —C.Fred (talk) 00:32, 19 March 2018 (UTC)

Edit undo on Dr. Pamela Gay's wikipedia page and Lawrence Krauss's wikipedia page

Hello C.Fred,

I see that you undid my deletions. I'd like to ask that my revisions be reinstated because they were done at the request of Dr. Pamela Gay herself. There are legal issues involved, and she did not want the associations brought up on her page and Krauss' page. She specifically did not want to have photos of herself with him on her page or his.

Please let me know the appropriate way to handle this issue and properly respect Dr. Gay and her bio.

Mistressuseless (talk) 04:31, 20 March 2018 (UTC)

@Mistressuseless: The normal process is that you should not make the edits precisely because you're doing them at the request of Dr. Gay. If there are legal issues involved, she would need to contact the Volunteer Response Team via email. Remember that anything discussed on a Wikipedia talk page is essentially an open record; by emailing the VRT, she's able to communicate with a higher level of confidentiality. If the VRT takes action on her request, then basically, even as an administrator, all I see is that it was done on the basis of a request.

The problem in the current situation is that it just looks like that chapter of history is trying to be erased from her bio. The risk there is the Streisand effect, where it could backfire and draw more attention to her prior associations. —C.Fred (talk) 14:21, 20 March 2018 (UTC)

Thank you for the information. I'll pass it along to Dr. Gay. Mistressuseless (talk) 16:12, 20 March 2018 (UTC)

I have removed the image from the WP:BLP per the principle of doing no harm (though this laudable idea was ultimately rejected by the community, the guiding principles of avoiding harm when there is no compelling reason to continue to perpetuate harm seems rather uncontroversial to me). As there are plenty of other images in the article, removing one seems to me to be no problem. In general, I agree that the VRT is a good avenue to make requests, but I think the right thing to do is pretty clear in this instance, so I boldly removed the image. jps (talk) 20:56, 20 March 2018 (UTC)

@ජපස: And I agree, no harm with removing the image. I have a little more concern with removing the name of just one panelist, so I recast the sentence slightly, but left out the name in question. —C.Fred (talk) 23:44, 20 March 2018 (UTC)

Yes: Keys To Ascension

I'm not sure why you undid my changes to the Yes Keys To Ascension page as I am one of the people involved with the recording and mixing of the album as I indicated. I lived with the band in SLO, recorded the live shows and some of the studio material and also mixed part of the record. I am clearly credited on both the album and in the Wiki credit information for this album. The information you have reverted back to is incomplete and inaccurate and I had been trying to update the information to reflect a more accurate and complete version for the readers. I have no conflict of interest nor do I have any hidden agenda. I am honestly and accurately updating the article as one of the people who was there when it happened and contributed to the production of the album. I am not sure where the current information on the page was sourced from but it is not entirely accurate. My source is the truthful, honest accounting as one of the people involved with the production of the album. Were the changes I made provable from any written article in the past, most likely not as we are talking 21 years ago now, that however does not mean the changes I made are not a more accurate truthful account as one of the participants in the record in question. You can find me at www.billsmith.biz

Thank you.

B.Smith2018 (talk) 02:50, 22 March 2018 (UTC)

@B.Smith2018: You have made two contradictory statements: "I lived with the band…recorded the live shows and some of the studio material and also mixed part of the record" and "I have conflict of interest".

If you are the person you're adding to the credits, then you have a conflict of interest, and you should not be editing articles when you have a connection to the subject. Even if you have a conflict of interest, you should be citing reliable independent sources to back up changes.

If you are not the person you're adding to the credits, then you have no conflict of interest, but you also have absolutely no sources to show that Smith is connected.

Either way, the key policies in play here are WP:Conflict of interest and WP:Verifiability. —C.Fred (talk) 02:56, 22 March 2018 (UTC)

Actually I stated that I have NO conflict of interest in my first posting to you, "I have no conflict of interest nor do I have any hidden agenda". You stated "but you also have absolutely no sources to show that Smith is connected", I would have thought my credits on the album itself, my credits listed on the Wiki page already and being mentioned several times within the body of the article as it stands would show that I am connected since none of that information was provided by me. The credits for Zang Angelfire are wrong as he did no mixing on the album whatsoever which is clearly verifiable by looking at the actual album credits themselves. He should not be named in the body of the article as one of the engineers/mixers nor in the credits as having done any mixing on the album. The actual album credits show this to be incorrect. If I can not correct this mistake because I have a connection to the subject then who can? I was merely attempting to fix that error and provide additional background information on the subject. If you are able to fix the credit error since you are not connected with the subject would you please do so. Thank you. B.Smith2018 (talk) 03:37, 22 March 2018 (UTC)

@B.Smith2018: The definition of conflict of interest includes any time a person is writing about themselves in relation to an article. If you have credits on the album, then you have a conflict of interest with the article about the album. It doesn't prevent you from editing the article, but it means you really need to make sure that you're citing independent reliable sources; you cannot play the "I know this first-hand, so it must be right" card.

If there are errors in the credits, please show where the correct information is published. We will usually accept a source from the record label, even though they aren't independent. If you're asserting that the credits on the label are wrong, then you need to show somewhere else where it's stated in print what the correct credits are. —C.Fred (talk) 14:46, 22 March 2018 (UTC)

UCTV Page

Hello,

I see that the UCTV page was deleted for not having a lot of information on it. I had submitted suggestions for editing the page and nobody ever looked at them. I feel it's weird to have the page deleted because of a lack of content, even though I had submitted proposals to add content. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MikeyFromUCTV (talk • contribs) 17:58, 23 March 2018 (UTC)

@MikeyFromUCTV: I just looked at those proposals. While I saw content you suggested adding, it was also sourced back to the station's website. There were no secondary sources cited. An article needs independent reliable sources to satisfy the general notability guidelines. —C.Fred (talk) 20:39, 23 March 2018 (UTC)

Help needed

Hi admin, Can you please review draft:Prakash Neupane ? I’ve added enough media references which are from nationals medias so, please help me out. MAXNP (talk) MAXNP (talk) 19:05, 22 March 2018 (UTC)

@MAXNP: I still don't see anything that asserts that he is a notable musician. He hasn't charted, toured, or done anything else off the criteria list. —C.Fred (talk) 20:28, 22 March 2018 (UTC)

• There are many Nepali Musician who haven’t chartered, toured cause in Nepal there’s not any chartered list for singers. I can show you many wikipedia pages which have less ref , less famous not more notable and still in wikipedia. When we provide you ref sometimes you told artist is not notable cause artist dont have enough ref but he is featured in All the national newspapers which are good in rank and top media portals of Nepal’s too. What do you need more than that. Nepali artist can’t be featured for grammy or billboard chart list. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MAXNP (talk • contribs) 20:32, 22 March 2018 (UTC)

• * I saw musician notability and Prakash Neupane have fullfilled all the criteria expect National Chart and award nominations. Here is his interview in Nationa Televison of Nepal Nepal Television and there are news in Nepali languages about his career and albums which shows he has released 3 independent albums till now and featured in National Newspapers like Khasokhas Weekly ABC Television (Nepal) Huffington Post and Nagarik News MAXNP (talk)

I've passed on a request at WT:WikiProject Nepal for an expert to look at the draft. —C.Fred (talk) 20:48, 22 March 2018 (UTC)

• Thankyou Admin. MAXNP (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 20:57, 22 March 2018 (UTC)

• Hi Admin C.Fred, [13] it may help you more take a look on that too. The wiki enteries maybe helpful for you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MAXNP (talk • contribs) 21:32, 22 March 2018 (UTC)

@MAXNP: Based on feedback from two editors at WP:WikiProject Nepal, I have moved the page back to article space. —C.Fred (talk) 20:46, 23 March 2018 (UTC)

Thankyou Admin. MAXNP (talk) 20:50, 23 March 2018 (UTC)

censorship

censorship without justification is against wikipedia's stated mission. disagreeing with as religion doesnt mean you should censor it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Matthewgrutledge (talk • contribs) 20:34, 24 March 2018 (UTC)

@Matthewgrutledge: Your autobiography is held to the same standard of any autobiography, whether it be from another Pagan, a Christian, a Muslim, a Jew, or a Pastafarian. —C.Fred (talk) 20:52, 24 March 2018 (UTC)

All information was cited, but wikipedia has a reputation for this kind of censorship I didn't believe until now. whether you admit it or not. irretrievably deleting credible content at moment's notice. Proves the reputation sound. thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Matthewgrutledge (talk • contribs) 21:04, 24 March 2018 (UTC)

@Matthewgrutledge: The citation's were only to self-published sources by the subject or his ordaining authority. No independent sources, no indication of meeting WP:BIO even remotely. —C.Fred (talk) 21:10, 24 March 2018 (UTC)

Actually the primary source was not self published at all, but you obviously didn't look. Thanks for your time. I was warned by others but i stood up for you guys. I was wrong. Matthewgrutledge (talk)matthewgrutledge —Preceding undated comment added 21:17, 24 March 2018 (UTC)

@Matthewgrutledge: I just rechecked the article, as it was when it was deleted. Two sources were cited: the ADF website (obviously self-published by ADF) and the Shows page of the Rev. Matthew website, obviously published by the subject. Both SPS, neither independent. —C.Fred (talk) 21:19, 24 March 2018 (UTC)

Actually the second was a third party, stone creed. an independent 501c. still reeks of censorship..Matthewgrutledge (talk) 21:39, 24 March 2018 (UTC)matthewgrutledge

@Matthewgrutledge: Nope. We're an equal-opportunity deleter of vanity articles. —C.Fred (talk) 21:40, 24 March 2018 (UTC)

Yama Buddha

Hi Admin, Can you please look at Yama Buddha page and remove WP:BLPNOTE noitce from the page ? I’ve added some references there & will add more if required. Please clear the issues of the page. He was one of the top Nepali rapper and now he is already dead. So, for some respect. Thanks :) MAXNP (talk) 21:59, 24 March 2018 (UTC)

Emotional lability

Hi Fred. I put in a request at RPP but could you by chance indef this group of accounts; they're obviously all the same and attacking the same page. SPI is pending to check for others. Home Lander (talk) 16:40, 25 March 2018 (UTC)

Why did you delete my information?

It wasn't bothering anyone. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vyper3006 (talk • contribs) 02:30, 26 March 2018 (UTC)

@Vyper3006: Because there wasn't anything in the article to show it was valid. It looked like it was something made up; the only content was a link to a non-existent Google Docs page. —C.Fred (talk) 02:34, 26 March 2018 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: Suicide of Ashawnty Davis

Hello C.Fred. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Suicide of Ashawnty Davis, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: plenty of RS coverage exist, use WP:AFD instead. Thank you. SoWhy 10:01, 26 March 2018 (UTC)

Major junction

Why did not include major junctions with auxiliary routes? 2606:A000:6604:D700:998A:D7EA:9D5B:D660 (talk) 20:48, 26 March 2018 (UTC)

Because even though it might be a major interchange (think Spaghetti Junction in Atlanta), it's not one of the most significant routes that the highway intersects. —C.Fred (talk) 01:33, 27 March 2018 (UTC)

Were Murray to ever be found to be notable

Hello C.Fred,

Thank you for taking the time to provide the heads up regarding changing the title name for Gerald Murray. Per your suggestion, I will create a new title to address the issue, and delete the previous article.

Best regards, User:mediaman770 (talk) 19:23, 30 March, 2018 (UTC)

@Mediaman770: Please don't do that. We can move the page at some point in the future if we need to. If you were to create a second page, we'd have to delete it, merge in the history of the first draft, and restore it. Don't create extra work. —C.Fred (talk) 20:01, 30 March 2018 (UTC)

I requested deletion of the draft before I received your notification not to do so. I apologize for that. Should I submit to recreate the draft. Will await further instructions before moving forward.

Thank you for your help, User:mediaman770 (talk) 20:38, 30 March, 2018 (UTC)

@Mediaman770: Since nobody else had made substantial edits to the draft, I decided to go ahead and delete it. You can start fresh. —C.Fred (talk) 20:53, 30 March 2018 (UTC)

Hello,

Okay, wonderful. As you suggested, I created "Gerald Murray (Talent manger)" to use as his title, and have scaled back the article considerably to place focus primarily upon his career as talent manager.

Sincerely appreciate your help, and am truly sorry for adding more work to your day. User:mediaman770 (talk) 21:00, 30 March, 2018 (UTC)

Beirut

Check the talk page. I have. I mean, really....

(I've never violated 3RR, btw)

ZinedineZidane98 (talk) 12:56, 31 March 2018 (UTC)

My Page is deleted!!

Mr. Fred you have deleted my page which was about NGO! Hope you can check it back! Aspso (talk) 22:56, 31 March 2018 (UTC)

@Aspso: Sorry, you may not use Wikipedia to promote the NGO you are connected to. —C.Fred (talk) 22:57, 31 March 2018 (UTC)

I am not connected to it at all! but this was just a brief introductions and means of Activities about the organisationAspso (talk) 23:02, 31 March 2018 (UTC).

@Aspso: You need to change your username, then: you caanot use the name of an organization as a username. And whether connected or not, you can't use text that looks and feels like it was copied from their website. —C.Fred (talk) 23:05, 31 March 2018 (UTC)

(arch)

• only added :

• <ref>https://web.archive.org/web/20061004072144/http://gator.com:80/</ref>

Z75SG61Ilunqpdb (talk) 01:12, 1 April 2018 (UTC)

That may have been what you meant to do, but you removed the infobox, intro, and several sections of the article. —C.Fred (talk) 01:32, 1 April 2018 (UTC)

Notability of Blokada

Hello Fred, the problem of the page is clear, while there are 9 citations, 8 of them are from first party sources(If you count GitHub and XDA as first party), so I can see why this page isn't notable. I assume the page is going to be deleted, and if it actually is, I don't have an issue with that, as I should have tought more about the importance of this particular topic, before writing an article about it. I am sorry for any inconvenience I may have caused you. Best Regards, ZeR0101MiNt (talk) 23:27, 1 April 2018 (UTC)

Ian Leslie page editsIan Craig Leslie (talk) 02:43, 2 April 2018 (UTC)

Dear Fred I am a total stranger to editing Wikipedia and find the process overwhelming. I simply need to update and correct family biographical information including my family circumstances at my birth. The current page has my mother born where she was not. I was was born in captivity, (along with my entire family) under Japanese occupation at the onset of World War Two. This is a fact. I also wanted to include information about my spouse and children. NO sell promotion at all. Why has this been rejected, I see no conflict of interest. Just information readers will find interesting. Please accept and restore the edited draft. With thanks ian Leslie.02:43, 2 April 2018 (UTC)~~

@Ian Craig Leslie: With all due respect, you made such a mess of the formatting of the page that the only thing to do was roll back to the prior version. Some of your edits were incorporated.

Now, for these "fact"s that you want to change in the article: what published reliable sources can you cite to support the changes? We cannot just take your word for the changes; they must be clearly backed up by independent sources.

Third, because you are the subject of the article, you should not edit the article directly. You may request changes at Talk:Ian Leslie. —C.Fred (talk) 02:50, 2 April 2018 (UTC)

Dear Fred thankyou for your response. regards Ian Leslie. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ian Craig Leslie (talk • contribs) 03:05, 2 April 2018 (UTC)

About the Prakash Neupane article

Hi C.Fred,
This article has been been deleted via the WP:AF process three times:

• Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Prakash Neupane in a WP:SOFTDELETE on 26 June 2016
• Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Prakash Neupane (2nd nomination) on 31 July 2016
• Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Prakash Neupane (musician) on 8 January 2018

On 23 March 2018 you accepted the Draft:Prakash Neupane move into articlespace. I think there is a problem with this.
Simply put: should an article that meets the WP:GNG be deleted because it was created and maintained by WP:SOCKPUPPETs? The sockmaster is User:Gaurav456.
I seek your further instructions how to proceed in this matter (Erm, not at work now). What do you think about this? Pete AU aka --Shirt58 (talk) 11:21, 3 April 2018 (UTC)

@Shirt58: Regardless of who raised the concern that the new draft had addressed the concerns from the second AfD, I sent the matter to WikiProject Nepal for review. Two editors—one has "only" 830 edits, but the second is a global sysop—gave the green light to move it into article space.[14] Based on their familiarity with the subject area, I moved it.

So, even though the article was created by a sockpuppet, other editors have been involved in the article, so CSD G5 no longer applies. The only way forward would be a third AfD, and that needs to focus on the merits of the article, not the history of the creator. —C.Fred (talk) 13:39, 3 April 2018 (UTC)

Thank you for this reply. I apologise for the ill-advised G5 I added to the article Consider me thoroughly WP:ADMONISHED - page doesn't exist, but maybe it should - for my failure both as an editor and admin to pick up on what you pointed out. Thanks again. Pete AU aka --Shirt58 (talk) 11:00, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

Fort Walton Beach High School

Hey! I don't know if you want to range block this IP and user but their back at Fort Walton Beach High School with their non-noteable additions and vandalism type edits. [15] I say vandalism since you explained very clearly to GenericAssUsername (talk · contribs) that it was not okay. Might not be them, might be a friend but I think this has gone on long enough. HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 16:41, 1 April 2018 (UTC)

Hey C. Fred. This IP 2600:8807:8340:356:d43b:27e5:5578:e8d6 (talk · contribs · WHOIS) just undid my edit of their obvious vandalism [16] on Fort Walton Beach High School. Would you recommend page protection? This seems to be slow vandalism every couple of days. HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 02:27, 5 April 2018 (UTC)

@HickoryOughtShirt: The kids don't have their toy to play with for a while: the page is protected. —C.Fred (talk) 03:12, 5 April 2018 (UTC)

Ha, thanks! HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 03:12, 5 April 2018 (UTC)

Discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Bangladesh#Placename changes and Wikipedia policy

 You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Bangladesh#Placename changes and Wikipedia policy . Worldbruce (talk) 02:54, 6 April 2018 (UTC)

Blockhead (music producer) photo

Hi! I have edited this photo I put in several times but the bottom is cut off and grayed out. Any ideas? I know you said it looked right for you but I've checked it on several computers. Thanks! Bhamilton2 (talk) 16:43, 6 April 2018 (UTC)

@Bhamilton2: I see what you're seeing now. It looks like the JPEG compression failed. What format is your original in? Can you recompress it and see if that helps? —C.Fred (talk) 20:58, 8 April 2018 (UTC)

I'm with the Camden Conference

Thanks for your reply and help. I'm a volunteer for the Camden Conference and want to set up an article for the organization.

Camden Conference (talk) 21:54, 8 April 2018 (UTC)

Reply at your talk page. —C.Fred (talk) 22:05, 8 April 2018 (UTC)

My Verification

yes,I have emailed to ask for my identity to verified. Sorry, it's taken me a while to work out how to message Simon Hobbs (talk) 01:08, 9 April 2018 (UTC)

Southside Christian Revdel

When revdeling the copyvio, I think you missed special:diff/833100065 BillHPike (talk, contribs) 20:27, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

@Billhpike: Yep, I did. I got the registered users' edits but not the IP's. That's been fixed. Thank you for pointing that out. —C.Fred (talk) 20:31, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

Paul Nehlen page

Hello,

I am contacting you in regard to the Paul Nehlen Wikipedia page. I would like to ask you how it is that I am to add sources for the particular case in which I am involved. I edited some text, so that it would have a more fair, and neutral connotation. I also deleted libelous statements which were simply political hit-pieces and should be kept out of Wikipedia for the sake of reliability and unbiased information.

Elric Bellamy (talk) 03:28, 8 April 2018 (UTC)

@Elric Bellamy: Short answer: if you are involved in the Paul Nehlen article or any events mentioned in it, don't edit the article. Longer answer: You need to request your edits at Talk:Paul Nehlen and let an uninvolved editor evaluate the edits and make them if warranted. Make sure to cite reliable sources—especially since I notice that the material you removed back in February cited multiple reliable sources. —C.Fred (talk) 21:00, 8 April 2018 (UTC)

@C.Fred: Elric Bellamy (talk) 13:10, 11 April 2018 (UTC)

I'm not involved with Paul Nehlen or any events mentioned in it. I am an uninvolved editor who made changes using more neutral, and unbiased phrasing. You can keep asking me to provide reliable sources, when only editing the way things are phrased or removing small, libelous & statements which were false. Multiple sources which are cited are politically biased, and unreliable such as Huffington Post, Newsweek, The Daily Beast, and more. You may be interested in learning the meaning of reliable sources, when it comes to information. Wikipedia specifically mentions that they should have a neutral point of view. Perhaps you would like to read: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Identifying_reliable_sources

Southside Christian School

Didn't mean to start a commotion working to edit Southside Christian School's Wikipedia page. I am a representative for the school and we would like to promote some of the more modern aspects of the school and the good we're doing in the modern age vs having information featuring a history that most are not proud of. While all of the information is true and cited it does not reflect the principles and truths of the school today and therefore portrays an incorrect picture of our establishment. Any suggestions? Dmillerrevlocal (talk) 13:46, 11 April 2018 (UTC) Dmiller 9:45 4/11/18

@Dmillerrevlocal: "We would like to promote..." No. Wikipedia is not a soapbox. The school does not get to control the spin around an article to reflect it in a positive light; the article must be written from neutral point of view and present good and bad information about the school.

Remember that Wikipedia is a neutral encyclopedia where articles should be written by independent editors. If the school wants to paint a pretty picture of "the good we're doing in the modern age", it already has a place to do that: its own website. —C.Fred (talk) 14:31, 11 April 2018 (UTC)

C.Fred No need to be rude. I would argue that while the article in question is cited, it also seems to have an agenda that heavily portrays the school as racist which is the primary concern for editing it. I would like to update the article within the Wikipedia guidelines. I want to play by the rules. Dmillerrevlocal (talk) 20:42, 11 April 2018 (UTC)

@Dmillerrevlocal: And one of the rules is that, because of your conflict of interest, you should not edit the article directly. You should instead propose changes at the article's talk page; independent editors will review the changes and decide if they should be made. —C.Fred (talk) 20:45, 11 April 2018 (UTC)

@C.Fred: Awesome. Thank you for this feedback and the feedback on the other page. I will let my affiliation with the school be known when proposing changes on the article's talk page. Dmillerrevlocal (talk) 21:03, 11 April 2018 (UTC)

Promenade editing April 2018

Stop re adding the public transport bit in the article without a valid source citing it. Obviously location does not need a source, but bus routes do. thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Maryjamescaly (talk • contribs) 21:49, 11 April 2018 (UTC)

Removing false information is "Edit warring" now????

So, just making sure here...people can call someone libelous names, falsely characterize them because they don't agree with them politically, post absolutely false information...and if I try to correct that, *I* am the one at risk of being banned???? What special kind of doofus came up with that rule?

(Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia. You appear to be repeatedly reverting or undoing other editors' contributions at Paul Nehlen. Although this may seem necessary to protect your preferred version of a page, on Wikipedia this is known as "edit warring" and is usually seen as obstructing the normal editing process, as it often creates animosity between editors. Instead of reverting, please discuss the situation with the editor(s) involved and try to reach a consensus on the talk page.

If editors continue to revert to their preferred version they are likely to be blocked from editing Wikipedia. This isn't done to punish an editor, but to prevent the disruption caused by edit warring. In particular, editors should be aware of the three-revert rule, which says that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Edit warring on Wikipedia is not acceptable in any amount, and violating the three-revert rule is very likely to lead to a block. Thank you. —C.Fred (talk) 23:45, 11 April 2018 (UTC))

QPhysics137 (talk) 23:50, 11 April 2018 (UTC)

@QPhysics137: If you're going to allege that the material is slander (sic), then the burden is on you to prove that all of the sources are intentionally misstating the situation. You need to discuss that at the talk page rather than blank the material outright. —C.Fred (talk) 23:52, 11 April 2018 (UTC)

"If you're going to allege that the material is slander (sic)" What's with the "slander (sic)" here? Are you hoping to trick someone into thinking I used an incorrect term in my post? I wrote libelous, which is the correct term. (And for future information, you use brackets and no space, e.g., slander[sic].) Even with the higher standard applied to slander and libel against public figures, the few words I removed cited articles calling Nehlen a white nationalist, not a white supremacist...so the burden of proof actually belongs on the original author to justify that very significant difference in meaning. QPhysics137 (talk) 00:04, 12 April 2018 (UTC)

See the edit summary on this edit. —C.Fred (talk) 00:06, 12 April 2018 (UTC)

"See the edit summary on..." I have seen it and I read all five of the articles cited after the pejorative "white supremacist" in the article. NONE OF THE FIVE use that term to describe him, and he has consistently denied being a white supremacist. Beyond the possibility of libel, the second "Pillar" of Wikipedia is that articles should be written from a neutral point of view. Clearly that is not the case here where authors are going beyond anything they can justify from their cited sources to include their personal, antagonistic views. QPhysics137 (talk) 00:55, 12 April 2018 (UTC)

Truthandrealfacts

You do realize this individual "Truthandrealfacts" has an account dedicated to slandering me... They really should be banned. Cynthia Ross Friedman (talk) 23:16, 12 April 2018 (UTC)

@Cynthia Ross Friedman: I don't see anything that overt in their edits to this point. —C.Fred (talk) 00:19, 13 April 2018 (UTC)

Waterloo Christian School Page

Thank you for your help with the Waterloo Christian School page! RyanHallWCS (talk) 01:47, 13 April 2018 (UTC)

Check edits

All I ask is that you please see how Truthandrealfacts created their account solely to edit the page about me. They have edited no other pages, only mine. Please see their edit history. Cynthia Ross Friedman (talk) 06:44, 13 April 2018 (UTC)

@Cynthia Ross Friedman: That, in and of itself, is not a reason to take any action against the account. That said, single-purpose accounts are subject to more scrutiny.

I should also mention here that your account is likewise single-purpose. You have edited no articles other than the Friedman article. I also don't see evidence where you've contacted the Volunteer Response Team to verify your identity; the username policy is pretty clear that you can be blocked for a username violation if you don't. —C.Fred (talk) 14:45, 13 April 2018 (UTC)

Editor on Park Shin-hye

Hello, I just noticed your recent post to a users talk page regarding Park Shin-hye and thought I’d let you know that the user has previously been blocked for sockpuppetry. I’m on my phone currently and I’m also not sure how to report this, but (unless they’ve been removed) the other accounts with very similar usernames can be seen through Park’s article history Alexanderlee (talk) 21:01, 14 April 2018 (UTC) Alexanderlee (talk) 21:01, 14 April 2018 (UTC)

@Alexanderlee: Thanks for the tip on the sockpuppetry. I'll take a deeper look at the article history. —C.Fred (talk) 21:03, 14 April 2018 (UTC)

User is now blocked as a sockpuppet. Good catch. —C.Fred (talk) 21:08, 14 April 2018 (UTC)

Unprotection

I already request unprotection for Cartoon and Ford Motor Company on the talk pages and asked the protecting admins. Super Mario Guy (talk) 01:22, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

@Super Mario Guy: I meant to request specific edits at the talk page, not unprotection. —C.Fred (talk) 01:24, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

DO u know meaning?

Unnecessary. U involve and delete my codesm am tamil am create for tamil peoples. Do u know tamil? AND U KNOW TRAFFIC LEVEL MEANING IN TAMIL? AND TAMIL WORDS

@Premwikier: I'm not sure why that matters: this is the English Wikipedia, and with a few exceptions, all content should be in English. —C.Fred (talk) 18:01, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

THen why u published. In tamil nadu?

World is full of not english.. in tamil nadu peoples read tamil content.. my page is for my peoples not for you.. u dont involve others matter.. dont edit my code .. i think u r my logistics. Dont waste your. Time Premwikier (talk) 18:08, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

@Premwikier: Then edit on the Tamil Wikipedia. This is the English Wikipedia; users are expected to write in English. —C.Fred (talk) 18:11, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

alexis lewis article

Thank you so much for explaining about the interview! So is my citation already incorrect? Should I not use the information she provided at all?Cheralbyron (talk) 03:31, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

@Cheralbyron: The interview is original research and may not be used. Lewis's website is a self-published source and of limited reliability. —C.Fred (talk) 03:37, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

revoke talk page access

Hi, can you revoke the talk page access of this user: ParkShinHyessinz7 (talk · contribs). He keeps posting content of Park Shin-hye's filmography onto his own talk page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 118.208.235.103 (talk) 10:46, 19 April 2018‎ (UTC)

Nancy Johnon

Okay! I’m trying my best to do this assignment, you moved my article page now I cannot find it. When I click on the links they promo me to create a new draft. Please send me my article back so I can continue working on it. Thanks Kbell005 (talk) 22:47, 19 April 2018 (UTC)

@Kbell005: Another editor moved it because of a name overlap. It's now at Draft:Nancy Johnson (inventor). —C.Fred (talk) 23:47, 19 April 2018 (UTC)

Deleted my talk with you.

Hello, you've deleted my talk with you and I'm unsure why? You won't allow unbiased edits of articles which is rather sad to see. Care to explain? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Elric Bellamy (talk • contribs) 04:37, 20 April 2018 (UTC)

@Elric Bellamy: the old conversation was archived to User_talk:C.Fred/Archive_23#Paul_Nehlen_page.

It's possible that C.Fred (who has been here a dozen years longer than you and made hundreds of thousands more edits than you have) gave up on you after you tried Teaching grandmother to suck eggs by telling him to read WP:IRS and claimed that Newsweek isn't reliable.

You should try reading WP:Assume good faith, because your comment You won't allow unbiased edits shows that you're concerningly unfamiliar with the concept (this is assuming that you're not just ignoring it). Ian.thomson (talk) 04:48, 20 April 2018 (UTC)

@Elric Bellamy: I did not delete your talk messages; an automated bot did, because the thread had gone seven days without any activity. Further, if your statements in the article are free of bias, why did you not provide sources which show that those organizations were acting with the malice you accused them of? —C.Fred (talk) 16:14, 20 April 2018 (UTC)

Ian, yes Newsweek isn't a reliable news source because of it's inherent political bias. Perhaps you give it a pass because it fits your narrative. I assumed he was changing my edits back in good faith, until he claimed that I was working for Paul Nehlen. Where's the assumed good faith there? I made unbiased edits changing the phrasing to neutral language and he changed it. I don't see the cause to change it back, unless you are in fact biased. I apologize, I didn't know you had a bot here to automatically move conversations elsewhere.

How am I to provide you with a source now that the man's been practically banned off of the internet? All you can find is more political hit pieces. If these fools would actually listen to men, rather than assume a politically motivated source is correct, then the world might actually be a much better place. As I can see this place is a controlled environment, so I have no interest in lingering any longer. Goodbye rats. Elric Bellamy (talk) 17:33, 20 April 2018 (UTC)

Toadmufroad

You deleted my page (Toadmufroad) for not "credibly indicating the importance or significance of the subject" but I think the exact opposite. I read Wikipedia's article on that issue and I followed all of the steps on that page. Please stop deleting my Wiki page, I'm doing everything the way it's supposed to be done. (OMGitsToast (talk) 02:42, 21 April 2018 (UTC)) OMGitsToast (talk) 02:42, 21 April 2018 (UTC)

@OMGitsToast: You are not "doing everything the way it's supposed to be done", because you haven't made a credible assertion of significance or importance. I have a YouTube channel, but I don't have an article; just having a YouTube channel isn't close to being significant. —C.Fred (talk) 02:44, 21 April 2018 (UTC)

TsaristAlvin

Hello, what I like to say is that Rennenkampff is actually the German spelling, Rennenkampf is the Russian translation,you can view the German Wikipedia for that,

@TsaristAlvin: Why is it, then, that not only the German caption of an image but also all the English sources use the "Rennenkampf" spelling? —C.Fred (talk) 02:26, 20 April 2018 (UTC)

@C. Fred: Then why would you look up a German person's name in an English Wiki, all sources in the German say that its Rennenkampff, not Rennenkampf, look this page up:[[17]].

@TsaristAlvin: That's an issue for de.wiki and their spelling conventions, not ours. —C.Fred (talk) 16:10, 20 April 2018 (UTC)

@C. Fred: Look up this link: [[18]], can you say that this is a mistake?

@TsaristAlvin: Paul is not listed there, so that's outside the scope of this discussion. —C.Fred (talk) 16:32, 20 April 2018 (UTC)

https://www.welt.de/geschichte/article168360671/So-knapp-siegte-Hindenburg-in-Masuren-ueber-die-Russen.htmlI am not talking about him, I am talking about the Noble House that he belong to: Rennenkampff.

@TsaristAlvin: He can belong to the house and still have changed the spelling of his name. —C.Fred (talk) 16:35, 20 April 2018 (UTC)

I mean, look at his coat of arms that's in the article. Single f. —C.Fred (talk) 16:37, 20 April 2018 (UTC)

@C. Fred: Then look up this source: [[19]], this is definitely reliable, this is from the famous German newspaper Die Welt.

And again, it's in German. The English sources cited in the article use a different spelling of the name. That's why I suggested that you discuss the matter at the talk page and get a wider consensus; you can't unilaterally change it. —C.Fred (talk) 16:44, 20 April 2018 (UTC)

@C. Fred: Then why don't change Paul von Hindenburg into Paul of Hindenburg, von is German. Oh hey, you should also translate all the foreign names into their english counters.

@TsaristAlvin: Because his common name in English is von Hindenburg. The burden of proof is on you to show the name is more commonly spelled with two f's, and you haven't. —C.Fred (talk) 21:46, 20 April 2018 (UTC)

Okay, Fred, I don’t want to argue anymore, then can you let me write “or Rennenkampff” next to his name TsaristAlvin (talk) 04:14, 21 April 2018 (UTC)