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A tag has been placed on Draft:Venus Remedies, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, group, product, service, person, or point of view and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become encyclopedic. Please read the guidelines on spam and Wikipedia:FAQ/Organizations for more information.
If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the deleting administrator. VickKiang (talk) 03:31, 28 March 2022 (UTC)Reply
There are two reasons mentioned on the activity log of this draft, about deletion of the article.
1. Your nomination to delete the page without a proper reason mentioned here.
2. Deleting adminstrator who deleted the page saying the current draft is dependent on a old deleted *draft*
This is not fair and I'm certain that this behaviour of moderators and Adminstrators is not how a wiki community works. Please help me understand if I'm missing something. BhargavKrishna97 (talk) 06:30, 28 March 2022 (UTC)Reply
First of all, welcome to WP and thanks for your edits. You suggested that my deletion did not have a proper reason, which is wrong as I tagged it under CSD G11 (unambiguous advertising), which you could see from my notice. For more info, see WP: Criteria for Speedy Deletion. The admin, while deleting the page, said that it was due to G11 (which is my previous reason), not that it depended on a previous draft. I tagged it since your article is not neutral and uses a lot of questionable wording. Thanks and I hope this helps. VickKiang (talk) 06:36, 28 March 2022 (UTC)Reply
The admin who deleted my submission was a admin named Athaernara and they mentioned that the reason for deletion is G8: page dependent on a deleted or nonexistent page.
I wrote the article for a informative standpoint and I'm confident that the tone or voice of the information shared on the article is not promotional or advertising. BhargavKrishna97 (talk) 06:41, 28 March 2022 (UTC)Reply
Yes, I have gone through the guidelines and I'm sure that the article is not unencyclopedic. The message shared by the deleting adminstrator was G8 and here you have mentioned that it is G11. I request you and the panel of moderators to shed some clarity over this issue. I can share a screenshot for the same as I'm not able to acces the page activity log where they have mentioned that the reason for deletion is G8. BhargavKrishna97 (talk) 07:46, 28 March 2022 (UTC)Reply
While I am not sure which draft you are referring to, on the one we are speaking about I am sure it is G11. Also, I am very likely to assess your article as a promotional advert, and am sure most other editors will also. VickKiang (talk) 08:13, 28 March 2022 (UTC)Reply
I am talking about the draft which was recently deleted. You have nominated it for G11 and the admin did not go ahead with the same. He mentioned G8 as a reason of deletion. Before you conclude that the article is a promotional advert, please go through organizational articles about various companies. Can you at least please specify which segments of the draft are not right? I'll try to rectify. BhargavKrishna97 (talk) 08:22, 28 March 2022 (UTC)Reply
I believe that what you are suggesting could likely be deliberately incorrect, see the following screenshot. If you are referring to this draft, how is this G8 (the photo clearly says G11)? Also, most sections on the so-called "innovation" of the company could be ads. Also, would it be all right if you explain what you would like for "the panel of moderators to shed some clarity over this issue" due to that as far as I am concerned it is likely a promotional ad? Besides, could you see this link (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Log?type=delete&user=&page=Draft%3AVenus+Remedies&wpdate=&tagfilter=&subtype=)? Hence, could you please have a more detailed look at the linked pages before creating articles? Cheers. VickKiang (talk) 08:38, 28 March 2022 (UTC)Reply
This is the activity log I have received. Please review the attached screenshot. Also, there is not even one single mention of the word "innovation" in the article. I now understand that you have misunderstood the awards names as the main article content which talks about the description of the company. The award that the company has received do have the so-called "innovation" in their titles and it is impossible to change the awards names. Awards belong to various entities and I am no one to change the names. Please don't be too quick to take actions, I have spent a lot of time going through links you have shared and the initial guidelines of Wiki space. BhargavKrishna97 (talk) 08:48, 28 March 2022 (UTC)Reply
This is a redirecting article to this article we were previously discussed deleting under G11, and I believe that it is reasonable. VickKiang (talk) 08:54, 28 March 2022 (UTC)Reply
I could not see any screenshot from you, and further, I will contact the admin, who will inform you more thoroughly. Cheers. VickKiang (talk) 08:49, 28 March 2022 (UTC)Reply
Latest comment: 2 years ago5 comments3 people in discussion
Hi Everyone,
I write this message with immense disappointment in the ever so decentralised and independent ecosystem of Wiki. The page that I have meticulously crafted while following all the guidelines of Wiki is now deleted saying it is "dependent on a non-existent or deleted page" and this adminstrative move was executed by a admin named "Athaernara".
I request the panel of Wiki admins to delete or erase the old article and retrieve the current draft. The old page was completely out of Wiki guidelines without any proper citations nor references. The current draft DOES NOT depend on the old version and it should never be linked to the old draft.
This is not a valid argument as far as I am aware, I do not know which you refer to by the old article, and the current draft is still out of Wiki guidelines. Furthermore, like mentioned above it is G11, not G8, unless you could provide clear evidence. Cheers. VickKiang (talk) 08:39, 28 March 2022 (UTC)Reply
I have shared screenshot. Please look into it. BhargavKrishna97 (talk) 08:58, 28 March 2022 (UTC)Reply
@BhargavKrishna97: Your attempts to bully Wikipedia editors into bending to your will to advertise that company will get you blocked from editing if you persist in this. – Athaenara ✉ 09:15, 28 March 2022 (UTC)Reply
Please understand that I am not bullying or anything here. The editor @VickKiang has not been entirely clear about why he believes the article comes off as an advert. Should I remove the awards details and reshare the article? I am helpless in this situation and I was just trying to gather more information from @VickKiangBhargavKrishna97 (talk) 09:22, 28 March 2022 (UTC)Reply
In addition, you are required by the Wikimedia Foundation's terms of use to disclose your employer, client, and affiliation with respect to any contribution which forms all or part of work for which you receive, or expect to receive, compensation. See Wikipedia:Paid-contribution disclosure.
Also, editing for the purpose of advertising, publicising, or promoting anyone or anything is not permitted. Thank you.
– Athaenara ✉ 09:15, 28 March 2022 (UTC)Reply
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