Barbaranelsonnelson

May 2012

Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is invited to contribute, at least one of your recent edits, such as the one you made to Joseph Giarratano, did not appear to be constructive and has been reverted or removed. Please use the sandbox for any test edits you would like to make, and read the welcome page to learn more about contributing constructively to this encyclopedia. Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 18:39, 21 May 2012 (UTC)

Please do not remove content or templates from pages on Wikipedia, as you did to Joseph Giarratano, without giving a valid reason for the removal in the edit summary. Your content removal does not appear constructive and has been reverted. Please make use of the sandbox if you'd like to experiment with test edits. Thank you. SwisterTwister talk 19:18, 21 May 2012 (UTC)

Hello, this is the first time I am writing on Wikipedia. I have copied a text sent to me by my friend Joe Giarratano after he read what was written about him earlier. Can you please help me to get this text on Wikipedia.

Unfortunately we can't as we have a no original research policy. This means that statements in articles must be sourced to reliable secondary sources like newspapers, books, journals, etc. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 19:44, 21 May 2012 (UTC)

Please do not add or change content without verifying it by citing reliable sources, as you did to Joseph Giarratano. Please review the guidelines at Wikipedia:Citing sources and take this opportunity to add references to the article. Thank you. You're not doing yourself any favors with your last edits. Please discuss them on the article's talk page. NeilN ^{talk to me} 12:57,

23 were sent to me by Joe Giarratano. He was born in 1956 for example. The sources for what I wrote are in a petition to the governor. Should I write that as a source? Barbara

Absolutely not. Please reread what I wrote above: This means that statements in articles must be sourced to reliable secondary sources like newspapers, books, journals, etc. Petitions are not considered a reliable source and letters from a subject must be published by a reliable source before the contents can be considered. Even then, statements sourced to the letters are restricted by these rules: Wikipedia:SELFPUB#Self-published_and_questionable_sources_as_sources_on_themselves. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 13:17, 23 May 2012 (UTC)

Sigh. You're only going to get yourself blocked if you keep this up. Suggest you use Talk:Joseph Giarratano to discuss your changes. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 17:17, 23 May 2012 (UTC)

I've removed the birth year until a source can be found. I will also add your link to the bottom where it belongs. Hopefully this is enough. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 17:25, 23 May 2012 (UTC)

Thank you. Barbara

I have been sent a list of secondary sources regarding Joe Giarratano's case. What would be the suggested procedure to list them? Thank you.

Hi Barbara, I suggest you list them on Talk:Joseph Giarratano so editors watching the articles can weigh in. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 03:41, 12 June 2012 (UTC)