Artemis84

I am an Inclusionist. I find that deletionists often ignore these requirements:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:GNG#General_notability_guideline

They seem to think that any article not cleaned up should thus be deleted.

I oppose that viewpoint.

WP:AFD - Articles For Deletion

It's Still Living

Having fought a number of deletionists I have tried to ensure that the article includes a number of independent references, each of which are from 'notable' sources, which I believe is sufficient (on their own) to justify the retention of the article. It should be noted that this was an offical release by the band, whilst not sanctioned by the band, it was released by a major label, Virgin Records, and it is not considered a bootleg - therefore addressing WP:MUSICBIO (if the musician or ensemble that recorded an album is considered notable, then officially released albums may have sufficient notability to have individual articles on Wikipedia). Hopefully there is enough evidence to retain the article but if you have any other suggestions on what info I should include let me know. Dan arndt (talk) 01:35, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for your comments. I never stated the album was a bootleg. Truth be told, I've never heard of the album, or the band (which doesn't mean anything). One editor made the claim that the AllMusic review is enough by itself to warrant notability. I don't know about that, but depending upon the authoritativeness/prestige of the AllMusic, it is possible, I suppose; I would like to hear h/er rationale.

My suggestion would be: if you really want to persuade, try to meet one more of the following criteria:

Criteria for musicians and ensembles

A musician or ensemble (note that this includes a band, singer, rapper, orchestra, DJ, musical theatre group, etc.) may be notable if it meets any one of the following criteria:

1. Has been the subject of multiple non-trivial published works whose source is independent from the musician or ensemble itself and reliable.
   • This criterion includes published works in all forms, such as newspaper articles, books, magazine articles, online versions of print media, and television documentaries except for the following:
     • Any reprints of press releases, other publications where the musician or ensemble talks about themselves, and all advertising that mentions the musician or ensemble, including manufacturers' advertising.
     • Works comprising merely trivial coverage, such as articles that simply report performance dates, release information or track listings, or the publications of contact and booking details in directories.
     • An article in a school or university newspaper (or similar) would generally be considered trivial but should be evaluated on a case-by-case basis.
2. Has had a charted single or album on any national music chart.
3. Has had a record certified gold or higher in at least one country.
4. Has received non-trivial coverage in a reliable source of an international concert tour, or a national concert tour in at least one sovereign country.
5. Has released two or more albums on a major label or one of the more important indie labels (i.e., an independent label with a history of more than a few years and a roster of performers, many of which are notable).
6. Is an ensemble which contains two or more independently notable musicians, or is a musician who has been a member of two or more independently notable ensembles.
7. Has become the most prominent representative of a notable style or of the local scene of a city; note that the subject must still meet all ordinary Wikipedia standards, including verifiability.
8. Has won or been nominated for a major music award, such as a Grammy, Juno, Mercury, Choice or Grammis award.
9. Has won or placed in a major music competition.
10. Has performed music for a work of media that is notable, e.g. a theme for a network television show, performance in a television show or notable film, inclusion on a notable compilation album, etc. (But if this is the only claim, it is probably more appropriate to have a mention in the main article and redirect to that article.)
11. Has been placed in rotation nationally by any major radio network.
12. Has been the subject of a half hour or longer broadcast across a national radio or TV network.

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I think that if you could satisfy, say, no. 10 or 11, it would help your case. Artemis84 (talk) 05:14, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

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Glad you can join us. I personally know how frustrating it can be to have editors delete contributions I have worked on. I have been on wikipedia for 4 years, I would like to think that I know how wikipedia really works. If you have ANY question no matter how small or trivial, please, please, don't hesitate to ask me. I think it is important, very important to keep editors like you on wikipedia, and provide a enjoyable experience here. I am really happy you are here.

Here to help articles tagged for rescue! Articles tagged for deletion and rescue Category Articles tagged for deletion and rescue not found Hi, Artemis84, welcome to the Article Rescue Squadron! We are a growing community of Wikipedia editors dedicated to identifying and rescuing articles that have been tagged for deletion. Every day hundreds of articles are deleted, many rightfully so. But many concern notable subjects and are poorly written, ergo fixable and should not be deleted. We try to help these articles quickly improve and address the concerns of why they are proposed for deletion. This covers a lot of ground and your help is appreciated! If you have any questions, feel free to ask on the talk page, and we will be happy to help you. And once again - Welcome! Ikip (talk) 11:44, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

Let me know if there is anything I can do to help you. I am watching your page and looking out for you. Wikipedia can be a pretty brutal place for a new editor, I would be happy to help you. Ikip (talk) 01:31, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

Still I Rise: A Graphic History of African Americans

I have removed some of the reviews you entered as being not from reliable sources. There are real reviews to be found--please add some. See the talk p. , and Wikipedia talk:Paid editing##Suspicious activity for a further explanation of the problem. DGG ( talk ) 16:17, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, DGG. I will look for the better reviews and add them. Artemis84 (talk) 03:58, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

Heather Brooke/Harmon

I presented evidence that Heather Brooke is the same person as Heather Harmon on the Afd page. I would appreciate your reply. -Stillwaterising (talk) 13:13, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

• Thank you for your comments. The AfD dispute was a no consensus. The article passed. Best regards. Artemis84 (talk) 18:14, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

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Speedy deletion nomination of User:Artemis84/drafts/imh

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Speedy deletion nomination of User:Artemis84/drafts/keithley

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A tag has been placed on User:Artemis84/drafts/keithley, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, product, group, service or person and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become an encyclopedia article. Please read the guidelines on spam and Wikipedia:FAQ/Business for more information.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding {{hang on}} to the top of the page that has been nominated for deletion (just below the existing speedy deletion, or "db", tag; if no such tag exists, then the page is no longer a speedy delete candidate and adding a hang-on tag is unnecessary), coupled with adding a note on the talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the page meets the criterion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the page that would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, you can contact one of these administrators to request that the administrator userfy the page or email a copy to you. DanielRigal (talk) 23:07, 8 December 2010 (UTC)