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SilkTork 13:20, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

Beer drinking records

I've noticed that you put in a link to the Guinness beer drinking records page. That page is about a drinking record. It is not about beer. Nor is it about beer culture. At a pinch it may be classed as Category:Drinking culture. At an outside chance you may debate it belongs in Pub games. But it does not belong as a direct link from the main beer article. There are many articles on Wiki which have some relation to beer. Not all these articles are linked from the main beer page. But - good try! You gave it a go. I also notice that you removed a merge tag from that beer drinking records article before discussion had taken place. I'll pop back the tag for now. Give it at least a week for people to give their opinion (if any - often people can't be bothered!), then you can remove it without anyone else bothering you to say you removed it too soon! Cheers! And happy editing! SilkTork 13:20, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

Merge tag. You were right to remove it. The tag had been there for nearly a month with no response. Also, as you say, the article could be about beer drinking records that are not Guinness related. It's not a great article though. Do you think it could be expanded? Or should it be put up for deletion? SilkTork 13:25, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

I've merged it into Drinking games - there is a section there specially on speedy drinking. Seems to fit better in there than on its own. See what you think. SilkTork 13:45, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for getting in touch. I see you are now working on the Beer games article. I think that is the most appropriate place for the speed drinking record as that article already contains references to speed drinking. Happy editing. I hope to see you contribute to more beer articles. Why not join: Wikipedia:WikiProject Beer.

Just joined. Apparent Logic 22:14, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

Hi Silk Tork: You and I realize that the link to World Beer Drinking Records is there via the "Beer Culture" link since we have both worked on it, but an uninformed user who visits the beer page would not know that. The user needs to click on the subcategory "Beer culture" then know enough to click on "Drinking Culture" when he arrives at the second page. Additionally, when you search for "Beer Drinking Records" that page was replaced by a redirect to "Drinking Culture" by you, and the user needs to scan the contents to realize the sub-section is there. That's 3 redirects. I don't think adding a direct link to the section under the "Beer" category "duplicates the link", it just clarifies that the section is present and facilitates navigation to it. I design websites and understand how the average user navigates. To suppose that someone would understand that "records" were under "beer culture" would be a mistake. Perhaps 1 in 100 people would be able to find the final link. I feel that a link to "beer records" in a category discussing beer is just as worthy as one to "Pub games", "Pub crawl", and "Public house", which you do not have a problem with. Do you agree? Apparent Logic 14:05, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

• There are various aspects of beer. Not all aspects can or should be directly linked from the main beer article, otherwise it would become overheavy with links. The best thing that can be done is to group related interests together in one article or category and then link to that category. It's certainly worth considering if Pub games and Pub crawl and Public house are all needed. Though I think you are being very playful when you suggest that a redundant and unknown beer drinking record is significant enough to deserve a direct link. SilkTork 14:32, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

• I've fiddled a bit to include a more direct link to drinking games. See what you think. SilkTork 14:52, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
• Looks good. I can live with that more intuitive modification. Apparent Logic 17:02, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

Beer poll

Hi! Apparent Logic. Hope you're settling into the Beer project. Your vote/opinion on brewery notability is requested here: [1] SilkTork 12:47, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

• Thanks, Silk Tork. I posted my opinion, but it seems concensus was already achieved. Apparent Logic 14:42, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

Ankylosing Spondylitis: Spam

Hi Apparent Logic,

I'm new to this matters, so my post "you have been warned." meant simply that I've posted a new advisory in the page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents. I have a prompt response that they warned the user with a "final spam warning", so I'm confident he/she stops wasting time on the article.

Thanks for contributing!

Sensei 09:09, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

Avian flu

The paragraph that needs rewriting is:

"Avian flu viruses are noninfectious for most species. When they are infectious they are usually asymptomatic, so the carrier does not have any disease from it. Thus while infected with an avian flu virus, the animal doesn't have a "flu". Typically, when illness (called "flu") from an avian flu virus does occur, it is the result of an avian flu virus strain adapted to one species spreading to another species (usually from one bird species to another bird species). So far as we know the most common result of this is an illness so minor as to be not worth noticing (and thus little studied). But with the domestication of chickens and turkeys, we have created species subtypes (domesticated poultry) that can catch an avian flu virus adapted to waterfowl and have it rapidly mutate into a form that kills in days over 90% of an entire flock and spread to other flocks and kill 90% of them and can only be stopped by killing every domestic bird in the area. Until H5N1, this was basically the whole story of avian flu so far as anyone knew or cared (outside of the poultry industry). Now with H5N1, we have a whole new ballgame with H5N1 inventing new rules as it goes with behaviors never noticed before, and possibly never having occurred before. This is evolution right before our eyes. Even the Spanish flu virus did not behave like this. What is worth mentioning about illness from avian flu viruses is covered in H5N1 flu, Flu, and the subtype articles (H5N1, HxNy) linked below (and the references in those articles)." WAS 4.250 04:57, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

It is true but poorly written (I wrote it). With regard to pigs and so forth please read the other articles related to this one; especially Global spread of H5N1 which says "Avian influenza virus H3N2 is endemic in pigs ("swine flu") in China and has been detected in pigs in Vietnam, increasing fears of the emergence of new variant strains. Health experts say pigs can carry human influenza viruses, which can combine (i.e. exchange homologous genome sub-units by genetic reassortment) with H5N1, passing genes and mutating into a form which can pass easily among humans. H3N2 evolved from H2N2 by antigenic shift and caused the Hong Kong Flu pandemic of 1968 and 1969 that killed up to 750,000 humans. The dominant strain of annual flu in humans in January 2006 is H3N2. Measured resistance to the standard antiviral drugs amantadine and rimantadine in H3N2 in humans has increased to 91% in 2005. A combination of these two subtypes of the species known as the avian flu virus in a country like China is a worst case scenario. In August 2004, researchers in China found H5N1 in pigs." WAS 4.250

James Kirk diploma mills

I notice your new interest in editing James Kirk diploma mills, but I am not convinced that your edits are constructive. As you are an experienced contributor, I am surprised that you were not aware that answers.com is not a reliable source, and that the home page of a diverse website such as that one is never an appropriate source for a specific fact.

Your edit summaries claim that your additions are adding "balance" to the article, but you have made extensive additions that are either not supported by citations or are accompanied by citations to materials that do not support the information given, and you have added extensive details about minor aspects of a UK court case that is only peripherally related to the article topic. That's not balance. Furthermore, please note that court decisions are primary sources that have limited utility as references in Wikipedia.

I suggest that you re-review Wikipedia:Verifiability. --Orlady (talk) 04:25, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

Apparent Logic, I suggest that article discussions on James Kirk diploma mills take place on the talk page for that article. For example, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:James_Kirk_diploma_mills Regards, TallMagic (talk) 00:17, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

A useful application

You may like this. It makes adding PMID and other references easier. http://diberri.dyndns.org/cgi-bin/templatefiller/index.cgi?ddb=&type=pubmed_id&id=18547426&add_ref_tag=1
Bork (talk) 17:13, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

Request

Hi Apparent Logic, I noticed that you edited the Vitamin D article and I have some concerns regarding one anon user's edits to that article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/76.113.156.31 Could you take a look at them to see if they're alright? Thanks. --Phenylalanine (talk) 03:41, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

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James Kirk diploma mills

I just find it interesting that nothing on this article indicates about Thomas James Kirk II death. I was looking for an article about his son, who has the same name. I am not surprised that there are any articles on wikipedia about TJ Kirk the controversial youtuber (his son) - appeared on the joe rogan podcast and on cnn as a pundit. I am surprised that nothing is mentioned about Thomas James Kirk II's death on his diploma mill article. I would add this information but I find any time I have added information to wikipedia it gets deleted eventually even if it has citations attached (not under this username). Since you have contributed to the article I was wondering if you find this information to be pertinent to be added. Megville1986 (talk) 20:13, 31 March 2016 (UTC)