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Re: Individual Weapons page

OK, I have taken care of it. Nohomers48 (talk) 20:40, 5 February 2012 (UTC)

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Re: Joint light tactical vehicle

Done. Nohomers48 (talk) 19:58, 2 April 2012 (UTC)

Phanto Sentinel

I checked JAWA11/12 this morning and there is nothing in either the cuurent or 10-year look-back indices. However, I think Jane's no longer has missiles, UAVs etc in JAWA (I'll check that thoroughly another day but could not spot any examples). I suspect the place to look is in Jane's Unmanned Aerial Vehicles and Targets, though I don't know where to find it or how often it comes out, if regular. Bit specialised for my public library! Jane's used to have missiles in and I don't know when the change in policy happened.TSRL (talk) 14:57, 17 May 2012 (UTC)

FN SCAR

If I understand your question correctly, I believe it's showing how many units were purchased for each phase of procurement. Engineering test units numbers used in the initial evaluation phase, LRIP numbers were used for extended field testing by select units, while the production numbers are the total amount intended for purchase. The source doesn't clarify any of this, from what I can see. Whether the numbers are up to date or not, I don't know. Spartan198 (talk) 22:53, 22 July 2012 (UTC)

Probably should consult an administrator on that before doing anything. I personally don't like removing large sections of an article as such and would rather leave that to more frequent and involved individuals. Spartan198 (talk) 04:46, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

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SAR-21

Hi, the text at SAR-21 was tagged because uncaptioned photos are never valid sources. ROG5728 (talk) 18:08, 23 September 2012 (UTC)

AMPV

The article you linked indicates the purpose of AMPV is not to replace GCV but to run alongside it; the numbers given ("a low-profile but high-impact program to replace at least 3,000 M113s") imply AMPVs would only replace about half the current US M113 fleet in the short term, presumably with GCV slated to replace the rest (and possibly some of the AMPVs themselves) in that project's 2018 timeframe. Herr Gruber (talk) 08:34, 18 November 2012 (UTC)

They way it's currently phrased, speaking about GCV in the past tense followed by "but now," makes it sound like GCV has been cancelled in favour of AMPV. That's why I undid it, because that doesn't match what the sources say. Also, changing "plans" to "planned" doesn't make any sense because the US Army still plans to retire the M113 by 2018 regardless. Herr Gruber (talk) 20:41, 19 November 2012 (UTC)

Yes, but that's not true since the AMPV's requirements haven't even been drawn up yet, that's getting into WP:CRYSTAL territory. Herr Gruber (talk) 08:37, 20 November 2012 (UTC)

Re: Messed up infobox

Fixed it. It seems as if the person who made it didn't get rid of all the unnecessary tags weapon options other than artillery in the infobox, and left internal link tags unfinished, also screwing with the formatting.– Nohomers48 (talk • contribs) 21:17, 30 November 2012 (UTC)

Season's tidings!

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RE: AC-130 designations

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Date formatting

Hello there. I've noticed you've been making a lot of additions to aircraft articles over the last few months, which is something to be greatly encouraged. I just wondered, when you're additing dates (such as to cites or in the body of the main text itself), could the formatting of the dates match the rest of the article please? US Military aviation articles typically follow the day-month-year convention, while often you've been adding good new content in the month-day-year order; which is pretty confusing for readers. I've corrected the date arrangement several times following your edits to enforce consistency throughout the article again; I was just hope that this could save me the effort if they were written out in the style the rest of the article follows to begin with. Please try not to see this as negative criticism, I see your edits as quite helpful in the continued building of articles, including some stubby topics in need of expansion; so don't let me put you off! Thanks, Kyteto (talk) 22:36, 3 June 2013 (UTC)

If it bothers people that much, I'll cite in day-month-year. Still, sometimes articles have dates in the writing the other way. America789 (talk) 18:57, 4 June 2013 (UTC)

You have my thanks. As an FYI, the WP:Manual of Style advocates consistency - basically meaning, all the cites of an article written the same way. In articles where Day-Month-Year is dominant, additions/changes should continue to use D-M-Y; in articles where Month-Day-Year is dominant, additions/changes to those articles should be on M-D-Y. Either date format is acceptable, but an article should use one and only one to avoid confusion. So that's why some articles are written the other way, and are correct to do so. Kyteto (talk) 15:16, 6 June 2013 (UTC)

7.62mm NATO M80A1

Hello. From what I could see in the refs the M80A1 doesn't exist yet but is projected for FY2015. So maybe it's a bit premature to add it to the article. Atleast without a note that it is a future project. Thomas.W (talk) 20:11, 3 July 2013 (UTC)

To be issued in 2014. Picatinny ammo goes from regular to unleaded America789 (talk) 20:24, 3 July 2013 (UTC)

OK. Have you seen any data for the M80A1? That is bullet weight and muzzle velocity (and through that muzzle energy). Because the M855A1 has a lighter bullet (4.0 gram/61.7 grain) than the M855 (4.15 gram/64 grain). Thomas.W (talk) 20:36, 3 July 2013 (UTC)

I have not. It using similar materials as the M855A1, so comparison of bullet weight and muzzle velocity between the M80 and M80A1 should be similar to M855 compared to M855A1. America789 (talk) 20:53, 3 July 2013 (UTC)

I doubt it since the lead they're replacing in the M80A1 represents a larger percentage of the bullet weight than in the M855A1. Which means that the reduction in bullet weight (in percent) would have to be larger in the M80A1 than in the M855A1, unless they replace the current bullet with a bullet that is considerably longer than the current one. Thomas W ^talk _{rap sheet} 21:16, 3 July 2013 (UTC) (<- Just playing around with the signature...)

July 2013

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Hiya. M16 & Galil usage in late 20th century IDF

Hi. I never have any issues with your edits, and I respect you as a knowledgable ed. I did have concern over the recent edit to Galil. There certainly appears to have been large transfers of M16 in the 70s, but by the 82 Leb war the Galil appears to have been mainly used by front line units. Check the excellent "Armies in Lebanon 1982-84" by Samuel Katz. It has dozens of excellent photographs, covering at least 2 years of IDF operations. The large majority of infantry and paras appear to be using the Galil SAR. The ARM is actually not in evidence much. This was probably down to the weight issue of the ARM that you noted. M16A1 do appear to be evident in some pics in second line and reserve units. So it looks like the Galil was not phased out in any meaningful sense. Rather the switch to the SAR version seems strong from photographic evidence.

Certainly by 2001 there was a massive transfer of the M4, and this has been mostly used by frontline units till the Tavor has begun to replace them. Regards from Irondome (talk) 18:36, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for your message. I don't know the exact makeup of rifles used by the IDF at that point in time. All I know is that the reference said the M16A1 began to be delivered around 1975 and troops liked it because it was lighter. I also don't know if the M16 or Galil was in more front-line use when the TAR-21 came around, but in Israel almost every gun they get is kept in use somewhere. America789 (talk) 20:39, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

No worries. Its true it was very popular because of weight advantages. There seems to have been a mix in use, but the Galil SAR seemed to be the most predominant of the Galil series. My only issue with the present edit is that it gives the impression that the Galil was withdrawn from service, which it certainly was not. They still even have stocks of K98 Czech, though lots have come on to the civilian market esp in the US and Aus. The moral is, dont throw stuff away. You never know when you might need it! Cheers from Irondome (talk) 20:49, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

To clarify, the reference says the Galil was mostly replaced in favor of the lighter M16. It says they arrived in the mid-1970s, and not which was more dominant at any date after. The Gailil probably was more used in 1982 than the M16. To be fair, the page's history section isn't very specific. America789 (talk) 21:06, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

Textron AirLand Scorpion

You might be interested in Textron AirLand Scorpion. Thanks. - BilCat (talk) 19:03, 17 September 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the tip. America789 (talk) 19:24, 17 September 2013 (UTC)

You're welcome. You're pretty good at digging up sources and adding them to article, and that might help save the article from a premature deletion. - BilCat (talk) 19:31, 17 September 2013 (UTC)

Nice work. Thanks. - BilCat (talk) 20:42, 17 September 2013 (UTC)

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I wanted to let you know that the CCI is now open at Wikipedia:Contributor copyright investigations/America789. This is generally a very slow and low-drama process - the point is simply for contributors who are comfortable within our copyright policies to ensure that content is consistent with those policies and flag or remove content that is not. Volunteers who help out with these are advised that they do not need to notify you of action. It's presumed that you're now familiar with the policies, and there is no desire to draw undue attention to older issues by spamming somebody's talk page with notices about policies and guidelines they have become familiar with. Occasionally, somebody will place the notice anyway with good intentions because the notices are standard in most instances. Since issues are flagged on the CCI page itself, if you watchlist it you should know when articles are addressed, in case you would like to assist with any cleanup. --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 11:21, 31 October 2013 (UTC)

Close paraphrasing issues

Hello, America789.

I've been asked to review your contributions relative to the request at WP:CCI, and I'm afraid that I do also see some issues with following your sources too closely to accord with Wikipedia's guidelines. I've found limited issues in four articles so far, including M8 Armored Gun System, M1128 Mobile Gun System, S&T Motiv K14, and Lightweight Medium Machine Gun.

[WP:close paraphrasing|Close paraphrasing]] can be a problem under both our copyright policies and our guideline on plagiarism.

While facts are not copyrightable, creative elements of presentation – including both structure and language – are. For an example of close paraphrasing, consider the following: The source says:

The K14 is sold as a package to the ROK Army; it includes the rifle, a quality daytime scope, clip on in-line night vision sight, training ammunition, ghillie suit and other necessary accessories for sniper training and missions.

Article S&T Motiv K14 says:

The K14 is sold as a package to the ROK Army that includes: the rifle, a daytime scope, clip on in-line night vision sight, training ammunition, ghillie suit, and other necessary accessories for sniper training and missions.

I've bolded to make it more clear where language follows precisely on its source - only a few words have been changed or omitted.

This is just one example; there are other passages that similarly follow quite closely in that and the other articles, drawing from multiple sources.

As a website that is widely read and reused, Wikipedia takes copyright very seriously to protect the interests of the holders of copyright as well as those of the Wikimedia Foundation and our reusers. Wikipedia's copyright policies require that the content we take from non-free sources, aside from brief and clearly marked quotations, be rewritten from scratch. So that we can be sure it does not constitute a derivative work, closely paraphrased content should be revised to separate it further from its source. The essay Wikipedia:Close paraphrasing contains some suggestions for rewriting that may help avoid these issues. The article Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2009-04-13/Dispatches also contains some suggestions for reusing material from sources that may be helpful, beginning under "Avoiding plagiarism".

At this point, it looks to me as though a CCI may in fact be necessary. I don't think the issues here are insurmountable by any stretch of the imagination, but we do need to be sure that content that doesn't conform to our local policies is flagged and fixed. This is not in any way meant to discourage you from contributing, although your help in repairing those issues would be very much appreciated. It is important, though, that you learn to work comfortably within our approach to using language from sources, since repeated issues with close paraphrasing are disruptive. Often, it's just a matter of condensing more detail and using more varied sources.

I'll be watching your talk page in case you'd like to discuss this, but it would be appreciated if you would address me by my username (as [[User:Moonriddengirl]] or even {{ping|Moonriddengirl}} to make sure I don't overlook your response. I sometimes am away from my talkpage for several days, but if you respond to me with questions especially and I don't get back with you quickly you're very welcome to leave a note at mine or to put a {{tb}} template there.

Thank you. --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 20:43, 20 October 2013 (UTC)

I am sorry for the disturbances I have caused to editors, but I am having trouble understanding how to resolve the problems. There are only so many ways to write the same thing. For example, the K14 sentence you brought up is a list - it says what is part of the system. How am I supposed to write what is in the list and not say the same thing as the content? I am not trying to plagiarize, but other passages that had paraphrasing was called "too close," so even other wordings of content are disputed. I say I'm just transferring content from references, so where is the line between writing information and "too close of using the same words?" America789 (talk) 19:51, 21 October 2013 (UTC)

I've restored the tags you removed from the articles. I'm afraid that you addressed only the example passage, and as I noted there are more than that within the article. The duplication detector highlights the worst of them. Beyond that, the way you rewrote the passage in question, I'm afraid, is unlikely to fix issues of this sort. Trying to correct paraphrasing by replacing scattered words and passages is likely to still leave a derivative work.

As Wikipedia:Close paraphrasing suggests, one of the best ways to revise such problems is make a list of facts from your sources and weave them together in your own words and structure into something new. When you only have one source, this is not as easy, but not impossible. It is, however, much harder to do if you do it sentence by sentence instead of in context of the whole. So, for instance, looking at [1], my notes might look like this:

• XVIII Airborne Corps (quick response Army paratrooper) seeking light tanks or wheeled alternatives to replace the Sheridan tanks surrendered in 1997.
• Why: While Air Force and Navy support can provide distance firepower, the risk to civilians and ineffectiveness against enemies "in machine gun bunkers or in other covered position" makes relying solely on their support inadequate.
• Requirements: "ballistic protection against 14.5 mm and .50 caliber rounds" and off-road capable; specific gun caliber not required.

• "4-14-44: Four vehicles at the platoon level, 14 at company and 44 for a full battalion"

• Plan: Money and time-constraints (24 months deadline) means must choose an available vehicle and not create a new design

• Challenge is in finding vehicles of proper size to be transported by C-130 cargo planes and parachuted into combat areas.
• 140 "potential candidates will be narrowed down to 10" that will be used to draw up specs to solicit bids, selecting a unit for testing.

• One candidate: "eight-wheeled Mobile Gun System, a 105 mm tank gun mounted on a light-armored Stryker vehicle made by General Dynamics Land Systems" if given additional blast protection and a more mobile suspension system, which General Dynamics would be willing to supply.

• What this is not: Future Combat Systems which would have supplied Army-wide "high-tech vehicles, robots and communications systems" but was cancelled in 2009.
• While fast-moving all-terrain powerful guns that can be delivered by C-130s are still needed, they are not currently being sought. The emphasis is on protection.

• Ground Combat Vehicle program intended to replace heavy armor.

I've rearranged the source structure a little bit into an order that makes sense to me. I used quotation marks to flag to myself where I've copied language precisely. This will help me avoid inadvertently duplicating it. If this were my only source (I see you have another), I might arrive at a paragraph like this:

In 2013, the Army discussed its intention to seek light tanks or wheeled alternatives to replace the Sheridan tanks it surrendered in 1997. These tanks would be used to provide firepower to the XVIII Airborne Corps, rapid response Army paratroopers, who must now rely on Air Force and Navy support on the ground. They argue that where civilians may be endangered by bombs or enemies may be covered or sheltered by machine gun bunkers, such remote firepower is inadequate. They hope to be able to equip platoons with four vehicles, companies with 14 and battalions with 44.

The Army has set a 24 month deadline to find a vehicle and this, coupled with budget concerns, means they are seeking among existing vehicles rather than designing something new. While no caliber of gun has been specified, they require an off-road capable vehicle that offers its occupants protection against up to 14.5 mm and .50 caliber rounds. It must be properly sized for transportation on the C-130 cargo plane and parachuting into combat areas. Their current plan is to draw up specifications from the ten best candidates out of the current field of 140 with which to solicit bids. Candidates may require modifications; for example, they would consider the General Dynamics Land Systems' eight-wheeled Mobile Gun System if the lightly armored Stryker vehicle were given a more mobile suspension system and additional blast protection. Such modifications, General Dynamics Land Systems warns, may drive up expense.

A previous program to enhance Army technology, the Future Combat Systems, was cancelled in 2009. It was intended to provide high-tech vehicles, robots and communications systems to the entire army. The Army still needs fast-moving, all-terrain powerful guns that can be dropped by C-130s, but the current emphasis is on protection. There is an additional drive, the Ground Combat Vehicle program, intended to replace heavy armor.

This is my first draft, based on my notes. I would then double-check that against my source to make sure I haven't inadvertently nudged anything closer to the source. Of course, you might focus on completely different facts - I have little familiarity with the subject area and so may not be highlighting the details that would matter to people who do.

When you have two sources, all the better. The more information (not language) that you can weave together from them, the less likely you are to come too close to either.

It is more time-consuming, obviously, to work in this way, but it does produce content that is generally free of copyright issues. (If any of that material is useful to you, you are free to use it without attribution in either article - I waive my attribution rights to it. However, I have not had time to do the requisite check against the source. I've got to check my talk page quickly and then run!) --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 11:47, 23 October 2013 (UTC)

SR-72

Please re-cite this edit of yours so as to help others verify the claims in the future. --Sp33dyphil ©^hat_ontributions 22:13, 1 November 2013 (UTC)

If you won't, I may have to remove your edit and re-work everything. --Sp33dyphil ©^hat_ontributions 22:15, 1 November 2013 (UTC)

Which edit are you referring to? America789 (talk) 22:38, 1 November 2013 (UTC)

This one. Never mind, I've revamped your edit. --Sp33dyphil ©^hat_ontributions 22:48, 1 November 2013 (UTC)

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DYK for Lockheed Martin SR-72

The DYK project (nominate) 00:14, 5 November 2013 (UTC)

Continuing close paraphrasing issues

Hi. I tried to explain above how to resolve copyright issues, but I'm not sure if the process is clear. You have once again removed a close paraphrasing tag from an article that continues to contain close paraphrasing.

For example:

Facing that high a concentration of trained snipers with special equipment, the ROK Army has realized from its recent combat experiences that it needs to evolve the sniper role.

After your modification, the article says:

n the face of a high concentration of trained snipers with special equipment, the ROK Army realized from its recent combat experiences that it needed to evolve the sniper role

Your changes are superficial and have not eradicated the paraphrasing issues. Please rewrite fully and do not superficially modify before removing the tag. I have not yet checked the other source, but will. --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 22:35, 9 November 2013 (UTC)

Is that the only close paraphrasing issue left on that article? I do not think my changes were superficial as I reworded most of the other close sentence-long ones. Other things highlighted as duplicates seem really superficial and don't look like changing some words would matter. America789 (talk) 23:53, 9 November 2013 (UTC)

No, that's just an example. I'm not doing a line-by-line analysis. Your rewriting is still sentence by sentence, which as I noted above does not address structural issues, and it is also leaving behind derivative passages such as this one. --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 00:08, 10 November 2013 (UTC)

5.56 NATO / bullet fragmentation

I think you like to read the Martin Fackler article and its references and external links.--Francis Flinch (talk) 20:53, 27 November 2013 (UTC)

What? America789 (talk) 23:23, 27 November 2013 (UTC)

Format question for recent edits to 6.5 Grendel

I saw that you put in some pretty information-rich edits for 6.5 Grendel. Normally I'd attempt to try to add some paragraph spaces to divide up such a big mass of information. But I hesitate to touch this so since I don't know the best way to divide up your references. Trilobitealive (talk) 01:18, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for saying something to me. I've split the paragraph in two, the first for benefits and the second for deficiencies. America789 (talk) 19:24, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

That really makes a difference! Looks good. Sorry to even bring it up, but I didn't want to interfere and split up the wrong way what looked like a significant amount of research effort. Trilobitealive (talk) 02:13, 4 December 2013 (UTC)

Philippine Army's impending M113 Fire Support Vehicle

Hi, I reverted the latest edit you made on the "List of equipment of the Philippine Army" wherein you added the 14 76mm armed M113s on the listing. This is to retain the listing as of those currently with the P.A.'s inventory. Actually there are several impending confirmed deliveries including 114 M113A2 from your country's stocks but are not yet listed due to the same reason. Alternatively, there is a "Future acquisitions" subtopic in the Philippine Army page, which you can add this 76mm armed M113 development. Thanks. Phichanad (talk) 00:50, 9 January 2014 (UTC)

Couldn't you move that if you were already removing it? America789 (talk) 02:59, 9 January 2014 (UTC)

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Airbus E-Fan

A-789, I just created an article on the Airbus E-Fan electric aircraft. There's a lot of info out there, especially at FlightGlobal. Any help on the article is appreciated. Thanks. - BilCat (talk) 11:23, 2 May 2014 (UTC)

Made a contribution. America789 (talk) 22:06, 5 May 2014 (UTC)

Thanks! - BilCat (talk) 22:48, 5 May 2014 (UTC)

Fairchild Republic A-10 Thunderbolt II

Hi, I noticed you've been adding information about recent developments concerning this aircraft, so I wanted to let you know about the discussion on this topic. Me and a few other editors feel that the section about the retirement plans is too long and detailed, you're welcome to participate in the discussion on the article's talk page (section The Proposed retirement chapter, another try). Cheers, — Yerpo ^Eh? 08:12, 31 May 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for the notice. America789 (talk) 15:38, 31 May 2014 (UTC)

Iron Dome

I appreciate your recent edit on the Iron Dome system. However, the source you gave mentions a cost of $5000 per laser shot while your text mentions only $1. Could you fix this? Khazar (talk) 23:43, 28 December 2014 (UTC)

I think what it means is a laser system would cost $5,000 to build, not to shoot. I've read plenty of articles on the LaWS' deployment saying a single shot costs $1, and this article says that about it too. I know energy weapons cost something that cheap to fire, but I haven't seen much on system production cost, so I'm pretty sure that's what that is. I've changed the page to state that building and firing costs are cheaper and moved $1 per shot down to LaWS section. America789 (talk) 15:23, 29 December 2014 (UTC)

Airbus Helicopters H160

A789, I've just created an article on the new Airbus Helicopters H160. Any additions you can make to it would be highly appreciated. I'm also considering a new article on its powerplant, the Turbomeca Arrano, probably sometime this week or next. Thanks for any help you can provide. - BilCat (talk) 15:30, 4 March 2015 (UTC)

I added some specifications and D&D info. America789 (talk) 19:26, 5 March 2015 (UTC)

Thanks. - BilCat (talk) 19:30, 5 March 2015 (UTC)

T-14 apparent breakdown

When Markscheider reverted your edit, he forgot to inform you of the ongoing discussion of that topic. Let that oversight be rectified. Lklundin (talk) 12:00, 12 May 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know. I've put in my thoughts. America789 (talk) 14:25, 12 May 2015 (UTC)

DF-21D (CSS-5 Mod-4) Anti-ship ballistic missile

Hi, I'm new to editing wikipedia and I noticed there is a section under the DF-21 wikipage that could use an update. I would do it but I keep getting all these cite errors, I guess I'm editing illiterate. The first sentence in section entitled "DF-21D (CSS-5 Mod-4) Anti-ship ballistic missile" asks who the analyst is that claims the DF-21 renders US Carriers obsolete. I just read in the NavyTimes that a new report by Dr. Jerry Hendrix (retired Navy Captain) claims that carriers are obsolete against sophisticated foes, such as China. I found the report online it just came out in October. It can be found at http://www.cnas.org/sites/default/files/publications-pdf/CNASReport-CarrierAirWing-151016.pdf. The report is around 70 pages long, but the Navytimes article that cites it offers a much shorter synopsis. You can find the NavyTimes article at http://www.navytimes.com/story/military/2015/10/22/report-carrier-air-wing-must-reconfigured-stay-effective/74265422/. I believe he's arguing that unless the Navy re-configures it's carrier air-wings the carrier could become obsolete. To be relevant carriers will need to operate outside the 1000 mile range of the DF-21. It's a good read and answers the who question. If you feel this is a worthy edit you can do it. I'm not that savvy at this sort of thing. Mactango12 (talk) 00:39, 2 November 2015 (UTC)

For that section, the cited reference predates the CNAS report and Navytimes article. Hendrix is not the first one to express concern over the carrier's capabilities and defenses against the DF-21D, and he is offering new ideas on how the air wing can cope. Basically, there have been a lot of people since this missile was revealed that have sounded the alarm over its "game-changing" effects (and some have been overblown). Writing them each by name is something I don't think is necessary, and some sources also don't even mention them. Basically, it just generalizes that some people say the weapon makes carriers obsolete, which there are people who say that, and I guess someone wanted an exact person which I don't think needs specification. Good job researching though. America789 (talk) 14:35, 2 November 2015 (UTC)

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Hello America789,

Just reacted to your citation needed in the L-ATV article. I'm not a fan of citation needed as I think it makes an article look a tad shoddy, and maybe not that good or well-informed! And looking at the efforts that have gone into L-ATV (by you, I and others) I don't think it's anywhere near shoddy. In fact, I think it's pretty damn good. Anyway, I've dropped a citation in, and I should add I did assume you were referring to the block of automotive text, and not my sentence about not knowing if the transfer case was single or two-speed, as that would be pretty hard to cite and I suppose the not knowing is supported by it never having been stated.*! The source I've used I view as a quick fix, and simply to get rid of the 'citation needed' as on reading the article I cited, much of it is shite. Can I say shite on Wiki? We may not know exactly what suspension is on L-ATV, but one thing we do know is that is not coil spring... I'd also like to know where some of those other figures came from (fording/turning circle), and I've never seen Dana credited for the CTIS, or Meritor for the wheel ends. I'm not saying they're 100% wrong, but looking at the coil spring statement, I suspect they might be... I will search for a better source as time allows. Best for nowWolpat (talk) 18:31, 3 February 2016 (UTC)

• I actually asked Oshkosh the question at AUSA 2015 and they declined to answer!

Thank you for the message. I only put that in because I wanted to combine two small paragraphs into one to make it look better, and put my latest addition in at the end, but the first did not end with a citation, so I didn't want to make it look like the citation in the second applied to all information there. In truth, I don't like citation needed notices either, but I appreciate you putting in any source that rectifies it even a little. At least for once putting the notice in actually got a proper citation to be added in response. The system works! America789 (talk) 15:31, 4 February 2016 (UTC)

FMTV

Hi America789,

You may have noticed I have worked a lot recently to get the FMTV page up to standard. Considering its importance across the US Army fleets the page was pretty poor, and quite inaccurate in a lot of places. I noticed your recent IFPC edit where you added this as a developmental/prototype FMTV. I'm not a random or hap-hazard deleter of others work, and like to Talk first, hence these few words.

I'm not convinced IFPC qualifies as either a developmental or prototype FMTV. I stand to be corrected, but it is a system under development by the Army, and a system that will be mountable on a variety of platforms. I understand the FMTV is just currently used as 'wheels', as what was to hand, and what could be used in the future. It is in no way an integral part of the system - yet. Or in short, it's not a prototype or developmental FMTV, and should probably be removed from this section. I suspect over time a variety of ideas have been mounted on the FMTV that have never materialised. If, of course, it states anywhere that the FMTV will be the base of the IFPC capability, I'd happily withdraw my suggestion this addition be deleted. I have searched, asked, and can find nothing supporting that right now.

Look forward to your comments.SurfaceAgentX2Zero (talk) 09:10, 13 April 2016 (UTC)

Thank you for consulting me. I put that in there because the FMTV is going to be the launch platform for the missiles of the system by carrying the multi-mission launcher. IFPC has several components including the launcher, radar, and C2, but the MML is the part that engages the threat. While the FMTV itself is not developmental, putting the new launcher on the truck is. It is similar to the AN/TWQ-1 Avenger anti-aircraft system being mounted on the Humvee. I haven't read anything that says the MML is going to be put on a different platform once it enters service, so right it is part of IFPC development and if/when it enters service the FMTV/MML combo will likely have its own designation, and so that entry would be moved from the development section to variants. Are you ok with that? America789 (talk) 15:59, 13 April 2016 (UTC)

Not a problem, Talk is better than many of the options to it! Not sure I had 'something developed and mounted on a FMTV' in my head when I pulled together that section together as I worked on the FMTV page, but hey, it's not my property, and while I'm not 100% convinced it should be there, I'm not too unhappy about it, and definitely will not make a fuss. Those that fuss about such things should write their own books, and not spend time on Wiki! Personally I'd probably have waited until the system chassis was allocated an 'XM' (like MEADS), if it ever is, and then include it in the FMTV variants list. However, happy to let it roll as is, and will keep an eye out to see how the program develops.SurfaceAgentX2Zero (talk) 17:40, 13 April 2016 (UTC)

Thank you. America789 (talk) 15:59, 14 April 2016 (UTC)

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Hello, do you think it would be appropriate to split off the Hwasong-8 into it's own article? Also, a longer version was displayed at the weapons exhibition. https://oneearthfuture.org/research-analysis/brief-defence-development-exhibition-democratic-peoples-republic-korea

The 'Hwasong-16' is also revealed to be named as 'Hwasong-17'. Like with the KN-24, I'm hesitant to rename it now because it doesn't seem to be the commonly used name. Gorden 2211 (talk) 08:25, 22 October 2021 (UTC)

I'd leave the Hwasong-8 where it is for now. The article you linked says it might be a test product, if true it probably shouldn't have a whole article on its own. I've added a note about the other name for the Hwasong-16. Information on specifics about North Korean weapons isn't always exact, which makes it hard to keep track of things. Thank you for the heads up, and by the way the links you put in KN-23 and KN-24 aren't working. America789 (talk) 23:45, 22 October 2021 (UTC)

That website was odd. It just disappeared without a trace. There is an internet archive page on it – though it doesn't actually load.

https://oneearthfuture.org/program/publications/tale-two-missiles-analysis-kcna-reports-north-korea%E2%80%99s-kn-23-and-kn-24-short

has the extract from it. I don't know why the author uploaded the content on another website instead of their own, but it's a shame that it's basically lost forever. Basically it was a media analysis, and it said that 'research and development' and 'Juche' was the emphasis on the KN-24 while KN-23 was all about it's deployment. Gorden 2211 (talk) 23:59, 22 October 2021 (UTC)

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I replied on my talk page. I'm not sure if that generates a notice to you or not. Basically, I don't want an appearance of edit warring, so I'm stepping away for a bit to see what larger news organizations tell us in the next few days. (And just to be clear, I'm certain that we are both editing in good faith to improve the article.) Best, CAVincent (talk) 23:53, 24 July 2022 (UTC)

I think you're right though. After looking at other news I think it was talking about the batch of 4 from a couple days before and the allies part was in reference to MLRS being given by allied countries, which they are, but weren't talking specifically about HIMARS. So as it stands I believe it's 16 HIMARS committed with 12 delivered and the 20 would include MLRS from other countries. That sounds clearer. America789 (talk) 00:01, 25 July 2022 (UTC)

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I didn't understand what you wrote while editing M2 Bradley. I use Oryx because the losses of both sides are updated every 2 days. Meanwhile it is hard to find Ukrainian losses best western channels/newspapers/articles always portray Russian losses. SOHAMGHOSH123456 (talk) 03:47, 1 July 2023 (UTC)

Oryx updates, and so it becomes outdated as time goes on. When it was previously used as a citation it was mid-June and the losses were at 14 vehicles. Now it's the end of June and they're at 24. So if you clicked on it the loss numbers would have been different from what the text said. Losses as time goes on should be cited from something that gives a snapshot if possible and Oryx shouldn't be cited at individual moments in time. I guess it could be used if the article text was continually updated to state overall losses, but at specific moments it shouldn't be used as this is ongoing. That's just how I think it should be used. The text saying losses by a specific date and then going into it later and seeing double the recorded losses because time has passed since then seems like not a good way to record it. America789 (talk) 17:51, 1 July 2023 (UTC)

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