User talk:Alexyflemming/Archive 4

Pentadaktylos

Please consider my suggestions at Talk:Pentadaktylos. Thank you! --T*U (talk) 18:45, 31 August 2014 (UTC)

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Pentedaktylos (and now also Kyrenia Mountains) – Reminder

Could you please respond to my last posting at Talk:Pentadaktylos so that we hopefully can agree on how to describe the flag. --T*U (talk) 11:45, 9 September 2014 (UTC)

"Northern Cyprus" related articles

Why do you support the occupying regime? Neo ^ (talk) 05:22, 17 September 2014 (UTC)

"occupation"?

International Court of Justice, on Kosovo's Declaration, Paragraph 81:

no general prohibition against unilateral declarations of independence may be inferred from the practice of the Security Council.

The President of the ICJ Justice Hisashi Owada:

"international law contains no "prohibition on declarations of independence."

International Court of Justice (2010): "While the declaration may not have been illegal, the issue of recognition was a political one. (AF: That is to say, "being not recognized does not affect legality/illegality of a country". Recognition is a political action. If none of 193 countries of UN does recognize a country, again this does not affect legality or illegality of that country in international law.)

The limit of power of the United Nations Security Council:

After the partnership government collapsed, the Greek Cypriot led administration was recognized as the legitimate government of the Republic of Cyprus at the stage of the debates in New York in February 1964 (Cyprus-Mail, 09.03.2014 UNFICYP: a living fossil of the Cold War: http://cyprus-mail.com/2014/03/09/unficyp-a-living-fossil-of-the-cold-war)

Question: Does the UN SC have a right to

- recognize the Flamans as the sole representator of Belgium (a country founded in partnership of Flamans and Wallons) if Flamans try to capture all of Belgium and try to kill all Wallons?

- recognize the Wallons as the sole representator of Belgium (a country founded in partnership of Flamans and Wallons) if Wallons try to capture all of Belgium and try to kill all Flamans?

- recognize the Czechs as the sole representator of Czechoslovakia (a country founded in partnership of Czechs and Slovaks) if Czechs try to capture all of Czechoslovakia and try to kill all Slovaks?

- recognize the Slovaks as the sole representator of Czechoslovakia (a country founded in partnership of Czechs and Slovaks) if Slovaks try to capture all of Czechoslovakia and try to kill all Czechs?

- recognize the Greek Cypriots as the sole representator of Cyprus (a country founded in partnership of Greek Cypriots and Turkish Cypriots) if Greek Cypriots try to capture all of Cyprus and try to kill all Turkish Cypriots?

Answer: Obviously No! UN SC has no right to remove a sovereignty of a people from the country that was founded in partnership with that people.

Also, for those who are interested in this isuue, the followings are food for thoughts:

* Makarios (1st President of Cyprus; UN SC meeting, 19.07.1974): "Cyprus was invaded by Greece."

* Greece's Court of Appeal in Athens (Decision no. 2658/79 23.03.1979): "The Turkish military intervention in Cyprus, which was carried out in accordance with the Zurich and London Accords, was LEGAL. Turkey, as one of the Guarantor Powers, had the right to fulfill her obligations. The real culprits . . . are the Greek officers who engineered and staged a coup and prepared the conditions for this intervention.

For those who are in trouble to find the sources for "Greek Cypriots applied ethnic cleansing and killed 2800 Turkish Cypriots during 1963-1974", I can provide sources from United Nations archives.

Alexyflemming (talk) 06:42, 17 September 2014 (UTC)

Neo ^ (20.05.2013): "wikipedia shall note endorse illegal entities or titles.)"

AF: Placing info of de facto entities is not endorsement of that entities! By the same token of you, one must delete all articles of Kosovo, Abhasia, Ossetia, Taiwan, etc. Writing data/info about these countries does not mean to support that countries. In this articles, the legal situation is reflected by the "de facto" and "de jure" statements.

Neo ^: (25.09.2009): "Population distribution of Cyprus -1960"

AF: Nope! You are not giving United Nations Demographics of Cyprus map of 1960. It was not colorized and in that map, only the Turkish Cypriot and Greek Cypriot villages are identified. You are presenting a map (probably prepared by Greek Cypriots) to distort the demographic structure in Cyprus to some extent. Lots of empty areas that belongs to the RoC government of 1960 and where nobody lives also colorized in the map you submitted!

In Wikipedia, we handle the issues from neutral point of view!Alexyflemming (talk) 07:03, 17 September 2014 (UTC)

Neo ^: 02.12.2009: "he pictures of Turkish brutality shall remain, witnesses of the truth".

AF: You are putting the images of Greek Cypriots who are killed in Buffer Zone. Why don't you put the images of Turkish Cypriots or Turks (Allahverdi Kilic, for example) who are killed by Greek Cypriots in Buffer Zone and why don't you mention anything about that brutality a little as well? Wikipedia requires that style, attitude and behavior.

Neo ^: 24.01.2010

AF: You are putting the "Concise presentation of Kyrenia" as presented by Greek Cypriots.

Neo ^: 16.03.2010: "...illegal Turkish settlers.."

AF: In 1963, instead of Greek Cypriots, if Turkish Cypriots had kicked out Greek Cypriots and forcefully captured the Rep. of Cyprus then would "Greek settlers" be illegal and Turkish ones be legal? Huh? Absolutely no! International law cannot be shaped according to brute force! Turkish settlers to Cyprus island are as legal as the Greek settlers to Cyprus island!Alexyflemming (talk) 07:27, 17 September 2014 (UTC)

Neo ^: (16.07.2011): "Only the recognized by the international community logo will remain. Finished."

AF: Wikipedia community got rid of itself from this nationalistic attitudes through consensus over decades, and currently there are Nicosia and North Nicosia Wiki articles since 14.06.2002 and 21.11.2004 respectively. Wikipedia learnt very well how to protect itself from the people like you!

Neo ^: (22.08.2014): "...The Turkish Army has made every possible effort to Turkify the occupied part of Cyprus, from ethnic cleansing to renaming villages and settlements..."

AF: You seem not to remember anything during 1963-1974 when 2800 Turkish Cypriots (3% of TC population at that time) was evaporated by GCs with the ambition of killing 100% of TCs and the attacks of GCs on TCs are documented by United Nations itself! See (for example, among many others): then–United Nations Secretary General, U Thant Report (10.09.1964, UN SG S/5950 Report, paragraph 180, http://www.securitycouncilreport.org/atf/cf/%7B65BFCF9B-6D27-4E9C-8CD3-CF6E4FF96FF9%7D/Chapter-VII-S-5950.pdf): "UNFICYP carried out a detailed survey of all damage to properties throughout the island during the disturbances; it shows that in 109 villages, most of them Turkish-Cypriot or mixed villages, 527 houses have been destroyed while 2,000 others have suffered damage from looting". What an info! UN searches whole Cyprus island and find NO DAMAGED SOLELY GREEK CYPRIOT village! Neo ^, to your information, the damaged houses in mixed villages are those of Turkish Cypriots!Alexyflemming (talk) 08:04, 17 September 2014 (UTC)

AF: You, Neo ^, seem not to be cooperative even in the times you were blocked many and many times by various Wiki admins:

(16.09.2013): "You have been blocked from editing for violation of the three-revert rule on Armenians in Cyprus."

(17.09.2013): "ew block"

(21.09.2013): "Blocked again"

(29.09.2013): "blocked indefinitely; I think I speak for all of us when I say we've had it up to here and back again with this user and his shenanigans"

One loses nothing from using soft and smart tone...Alexyflemming (talk) 08:22, 17 September 2014 (UTC)

I am very saddened by your shenanigans. The northern part of Cyprus IS occupied by the Turkish troops. Neo ^ (talk) 08:56, 17 September 2014 (UTC)