Tate murders edit

The legal precedence you cited is from 2004 and Wikipedia. These murders happened in 1969 so we couldn't use that in this. Also we can't cite Wikipedia in Wikipedia. We need an independent source that would apply to this case. Something from 35 years later won't do. Thank you. Please see the talk page. The tab is on the left of the articles page. Samurai Kung fu Cowboy (talk) 17:57, 17 August 2021 (UTC)Reply

My point was to inform you. The unborn most certainly factor in. They always have. Continuously just claiming it needs clarification and not clarifying it helps no one. Alexander R. Burton (talk) 18:02, 17 August 2021 (UTC)Reply

It does help. It's Wikipedia's job to provide objective information with appropriate detail and credible sources. Not clarifying it helps no one. It makes it sound subjective which than can taint the whole article and its credibility. Samurai Kung fu Cowboy (talk) 18:10, 17 August 2021 (UTC)Reply

By that logic the whole thing is subjective. They killed? No, the one woman stood outside. Articles are many sentences. Nothing makes sense cherry picking. And it is more than disingenuous to imply a worry that the original sentence would cause confusion. No one is going to this style for information on personhood. In those cases where fetuses are counted in a homicide conviction would you still argue personhood? Alexander R. Burton (talk) 18:24, 17 August 2021 (UTC)Reply

I'm not arguing it. I think it's a grey area personally but I consider it to basically be a baby at that point. The point you are missing is that it's not about you or me. It's about objectivity and credibility. No one said Kasabian killed anyone so I'm not sure what you meant by that point. Again. You need to put this on the talk page. I'll respond to you there from now on. This really isn't a discussion for us but more for the page. Samurai Kung fu Cowboy (talk) 18:48, 17 August 2021 (UTC)Reply

A belated welcome! edit

 
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August 2023 edit

  Welcome to Wikipedia and thank you for your contribution(s). I am glad to see that you are discussing a topic. However, as a general rule, while user talk pages permit a small degree of generalisation, other talk pages such as Talk:Origins of the American Civil War are strictly for discussing improvements to their associated main pages, and many of them have special instructions on the top. They are not a general discussion forum about the article's topic or any other topic. If you have questions or ideas and are not sure where to post them, consider asking at the Teahouse. Your comment was borderline at first, this warning message was triggered by your repeating it a second time. Rsk6400 (talk) 06:29, 4 August 2023 (UTC)Reply

I have no idea what you are saying, but I know it is threatening and intimidation. Alexander R. Burton (talk) 23:29, 4 August 2023 (UTC)Reply
This comment of yours was off topic (because it didn't discuss how to improve the article but presented your own reasoning about the subject) and this one just repeated it in the same words. Wikipedia is not a forum, see WP:NOTFORUM, but we neutrally present what reliable, scholarly sources say, see WP:OR, WP:NPOV, and WP:RS. Informing an editor who is not yet very experienced about our guidelines is neither threatening nor intimidation. Rsk6400 (talk) 05:32, 5 August 2023 (UTC)Reply