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Quotes from Martial races of undivided India edit

Greetings, the book Martial races of undivided India, as well as many other publications by Gyan, have been discredited as having in some cases blatantly copied from Wikipedia, regardless of article quality. Therefore, they are not a reliable source of info, and in some cases have been used as "citations" for the very Wikipedia articles they were copied from. Please be advised that the source is unreliable, so that you may focus your research efforts on reliable sources. Thanks for you work in footnoting though, it is definitely a step forward, we just have to be careful about a few sources. MatthewVanitas (talk) 17:13, 13 June 2011 (UTC)Reply

Did you see the WP:INDIA discussion on Kurmi/Kunbi? edit

Greetings, please take a glance at thee comments from a past proposal (which I made and then withdrew); I'd like to know what you think: Wikipedia_talk:Noticeboard_for_India-related_topics/Archive_45#Any_reason_not_to_merge_Kurmi_and_Kunbi.3F

Part of my concern is that your proposal seems more political than academic: "these two groups are separate, but must band together politically" sound more like policy recommendation than encyclopedia. Thoughts? MatthewVanitas (talk) 04:11, 5 July 2011 (UTC)Reply

July 2011 edit

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Great concerns about your recent work. edit

Greetings, can you drop into this discussion here: Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_India#Grave_doubts_on_Kurmi_Kshatriya.2C_Kurmi_History_.2C_Kurmi_clans.2C? I'm concerned that your new articles appear to be end-runs around the currently-locked Kurmi article, what we call a WP:POV fork. The material you're adding greatly contradicts a lot of what is covered in Kurmi, and what parts don't seem to be just cut-pasted from that and other articles. Please drop by that discussion and provide some explanation; as things currently stand I'm inclined to propose deletion of those articles as POV forks. Thanks for any input on this issue (on that WP:INDIA page). MatthewVanitas (talk) 20:45, 5 July 2011 (UTC)Reply

  Your addition to Kurmi Kshatriya has been removed, as it appears to have added copyrighted material to Wikipedia without permission from the copyright holder. For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images borrowed from other websites or printed material; such additions will be deleted. You may use external websites or publications as a source of information, but not as a source of article content such as sentences or images. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously and persistent violators will be blocked from editing.

This edit certainly introduced a copyright violation. My concern is that there are quite probably others. Please can you remove or massively rephrase any such instances immediately. Sitush (talk) 21:02, 5 July 2011 (UTC)Reply

  Your addition to Kurmi_History#Baroda_Treasury has been removed, as it appears to have added copyrighted material to Wikipedia without permission from the copyright holder. For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images borrowed from other websites or printed material; such additions will be deleted. You may use external websites or publications as a source of information, but not as a source of article content such as sentences or images. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously and persistent violators will be blocked from editing. Sitush (talk) 23:39, 5 July 2011 (UTC)Reply

... and one of umpteen others that I have (so far) found. I think that all your contributions probably now merit an investigation at WP:CCI. Sorry. - Sitush (talk) 00:43, 6 July 2011 (UTC)Reply

Speedy deletion nomination of Kurmi History edit

 

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Discuss inclusion/deletion of Category:Ruling Kurmi clans edit

 
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Sockpuppetry case edit

 

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Warning edit

Hello Ajneesh Katiyar, please note that Wikipedia works byconsensus, which is obtained through discussions; when you're in a dispute, do not start reverting until your version of the article sticks; that's called edit warring and is a blockable violation. Instead, start discussing on the talk page and do not revert, until a compromise can be reached there. That said, remember also that Wikipedia has strict requirements when it comes to verifiability: every statement likely to be questioned, must be sourced. It's not enough to say I am a Kurmi and I know that none of them is Shudra, because this is original research. If you want the article to reflect that Kurmi are not śūdra but kṣatriya, please do find reliable sources. Salvio Let's talk about it! 10:27, 13 July 2011 (UTC)Reply

While looking for sources, it is not necessary that you look for English sources only. Sources in Hindi or other languages can also be used!!! You can provide your own translation!! But the source should pass WP:V. To format your sources easily, you can also use this tool [1]. Please let me know if I can be of any more help.-MangoWong (talk) 17:45, 17 July 2011 (UTC)Reply

And about consensus, the responsibility to obtain consensus is not on you alone. In a dispute situation, the other party needs to obtain consensus as much as you. And if someone reverts your edits simply because of no consensus, show them WP:DRNC. Read it yourself too though.-MangoWong (talk) 18:03, 17 July 2011 (UTC)Reply

I think I should have clarified already, the policy for using non english sources is explained at WP:NOENG. And what "Verifiability" means is that your source must be some knowledgable person or entity. Usually a professor, who has expertise in the subject area. This is a very short summary. The details are in the policy WP:V. Since we have users who do not have a basic common sense about the subject and do not even know what the word means and also do not have any wish to find out how this word is inhuman, but still adamantly behave as if they know better, the difficulty persists. If you do not have a consensus on removing the word, there is also the point that there is no consensus on keeping it.-MangoWong (talk) 10:07, 19 July 2011 (UTC)Reply

If anyone misbehaves with you, you can report the user for uncivil behavior at WP:ANI.-MangoWong (talk) 11:47, 19 July 2011 (UTC)Reply

AIKKM edit

Whgen you create a new article, such as the one you have just created for the All India Kurmi Kshatriya Mahasabha, that includes copy/pastes from other articles you should always acknowledge the copy/paste in the edit summary. This is in order to comply with Wikipedia's licencing policies. I am unsure how you can fix this retrospectively but it does need to be fixed. Perhaps do an edit to remove all of the content, save the blank page, then paste it back in with a suitable edit summary saying that you have copied content from Kurmi (and any other articles where you may have copied from). Thanks. - Sitush (talk) 16:11, 31 August 2011 (UTC)Reply