95.12.115.214

Talk:Armenian genocide‎‎

The arguments you are making on the talk page above have been repeatedly made, discussed, and overwhelmingly rejected. You can see the talk page archives for examples. This page is not a WP:SOAPBOX for disputing the historical fact of the long and brutal Armenian genocide.  // Timothy :: talk  08:25, 24 April 2023 (UTC)

@TimothyBlue Read the sources I cited first before lecturing me on history. 95.12.115.214 (talk) 08:26, 24 April 2023 (UTC)

Read the notice posted below. There is a one revert restriction in place for this subject area.  // Timothy :: talk  08:30, 24 April 2023 (UTC)

@TimothyBlue Do not revert my post on the talk page again. 95.12.115.214 (talk) 08:30, 24 April 2023 (UTC)

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April 2023

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Talk:Armenian genocide. This means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be although other editors disagree. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus, rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.

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If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please read the guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text below the block notice on your talk page: {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}.  ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 11:08, 24 April 2023 (UTC)

Read the sources I cited before making unsubstantiated accusations. I have cited more than 20 different sources showing that there was not an Armenian genocide. Have you read any one of them? Instead of making an attempt to rebuttal my claims, you chose to block me. Please continue politicizing your administrative capabilities based on prejudiced racist opinions. 95.12.115.214 (talk) 11:20, 24 April 2023 (UTC)

@ScottishFinnishRadish 95.12.115.214 (talk) 11:20, 24 April 2023 (UTC)

I have not read them. When responding to a block that was partially for personal attacks you may want to avoid phrasing like Please continue politicizing your administrative capabilities based on prejudiced racist opinions. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 11:29, 24 April 2023 (UTC)

@ScottishFinnishRadish You are silencing me for the words I chose but you still fail to prove that my sources are wrong. I'd suggest you take a look at the hierarchy of disagreement. You can make better than that.

95.12.115.214 (talk) 11:35, 24 April 2023 (UTC)

You need to stop spreading Turkey's government propaganda and lies. Turkish government sources (court decisions, laws, constitution, etc) are worthless here - they are not reliable sources about any of the genocides (Armenians, Greeks, Kurds, Assyrians) committed by Turkey or the Ottoman empire. They are rightly ignored on Wikipedia. Like other nations who have committed genocide (such as the United States), Turkey cannot escape its undeniable history of genocide.  // Timothy :: talk  11:51, 24 April 2023 (UTC)

@TimothyBlue The only one that spread lies and propaganda about the events of 1915 is the Armenian government. It has taken an enormous endeavor to falsify what happened in 1915, and its revisionism is a tremendous scandal in modern history. The court decision belongs to the European Court of Human Rights. I cited 20 different academic sources that you chose to ignore. You accuse every source of lying, if it doesn't fit into the Armenian government's revisionist narrative. It is the Armenian government that doesn't want to come to terms with its history. Learn about the brutal massacre of 515,000 Turks by Armenian terrorists between 1914-23 before lecturing Turkey about the so-called 'genocide'. 95.12.115.214 (talk) 12:04, 24 April 2023 (UTC)

Fiction  // Timothy :: talk  12:07, 24 April 2023 (UTC)

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Yeah, you don't get to continue to attack other editors and continue to say you are right while blocked. TPA revoked. RickinBaltimore (talk) 12:14, 24 April 2023 (UTC)

This user carried this to the Simple English Wikipedia. 331dot (talk) 12:29, 24 April 2023 (UTC)

And the Latin Wikipedia. I have requested a Global Block on Meta. RickinBaltimore (talk) 12:33, 24 April 2023 (UTC)

Thank you both. I'm stepping back from this discussion as nothing good will come of me continuing.  // Timothy :: talk  12:37, 24 April 2023 (UTC)

Sure thing. The IP has gone to Commons, Wikitionary and Wikibooks as well to continue this. RickinBaltimore (talk) 12:40, 24 April 2023 (UTC)

And Simple Wikipedia, Danish Wikipedia and others.  // Timothy :: talk  13:18, 24 April 2023 (UTC)

Eeesh. And the response is simple enough: "(1) The English Wikipedia is not subject to Turkish law; (2) We are disinterested in Turkish disinformation; (3) World scholarly consensus on the existence of the Armenian genocide predates the independent Armenian government by decades; and (4) Quit while you're behind." Ravenswing 22:56, 24 April 2023 (UTC)

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