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I found the same issue when reviewing Kassite dynasty which was translated by an OKA editor, Racnela21. The OKA instructions list attribution as a necessary step but I reckon that OKA work needs a stronger and more formal checklist to ensure that such things are actually done. The article in that case was featured (FA) on the source wikipedia and such articles tend to be quite large and complex. There's lots to be done with such a big article and, for example, no categories have been added to the translated version yet. A checklist would help catch such omissions and so the work would go more smoothly. Andrew🐉(talk) 09:17, 25 October 2022 (UTC)

Thanks Andrew, that's actually a good idea! I have created a checklist for our translators and will include it in our processes.7804j (talk) 18:58, 25 October 2022 (UTC)

FYI, I worked with Racnela21 to fix up the attribution for Kassite dynasty and have added some missing top-and-tail elements like a short description and categories. So, that article is just about done. The one thing that is still missing is a template on the talk page which explains that this was an OKA achievement. Do you have something like that? I'm an event coordinator and so attend many editathons and they usually recommend leaving an event template on the talk page of the articles which were created and improved. The Women in Red project, for example, has a lot of these, such as {{WIR-29}}. Andrew🐉(talk) 09:50, 26 October 2022 (UTC)

Thanks a lot for the ideas! The short description was missing from our workflow, so I have added it. The categories were already in the list, but were missed by Racnela21 -- I will put in place a process for more close check of the work of new translators so that these things are less likely to be missed in the future.

We didn't have a template, so I created an initial draft here and we will be adding it to talk pages. At the moment, it is a very simple one as I am not yet familiar with the more advanced features of templates, but this is something that we could look into improving in the future once I have more volunteers supporting me in running OKA.7804j (talk) 19:18, 26 October 2022 (UTC)

You're welcome. Your workflow and documentation seems to be coming along nicely but you might like to see what others have done before. Looking around, I find that there's a WikiProject Intertranswiki. I'm not familiar with its history but it still seems active. Maybe the OKA could affiliate as a task force of that project? Andrew🐉(talk) 16:51, 27 October 2022 (UTC)

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Legal topics

Moved from User talk:Racnela21 § Brazilian legal topics in need of translation

7804j, thanks for your OKA project to improve/expand Wikipedia's coverage of foreign language Wikipedia topics. I am involved with a similar, medium-to-long-term project to improve Wikipedia's coverage of legal topics at Wikipedia. The list of articles that need to be created for this project is long (multiple years, probably). I have started with criminal law in France and in Brazil. Nav boxes show the possible range for expansion for creation of new articles in the red links at ({{French criminal law}} and {{Brazilian criminal law}}. These are just two of the 193 nations in the UN, and criminal law is just one of the types of law in France and Brazil, others being: Constitutional, Administrative, Family & Succession, Property, Contra○t, Civil, Corporate, Taxation, Labor, and Civil procedure and arbitration., with variations according to country. So an estimate of notable topics for this project is 193 x 10 or 1930, not all of which exist as articles (most do not) for your translation project. But this may give you an idea of what topics are available to be created or translated, and I will be creating more of them as we go. Adding Elinruby. Mathglot (talk) 09:13, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for the context!

So our team has already created several thousand articles on Wikipedia through translation (most of them very long) since I created OKA 1.5 years ago. So 2000 more articles to translate is not a problem. I actually feel that legal topics are very important and underrepresented in WP -- I have myself created a lot of stubs about Swiss federal laws to fill some of that gap for my own country.

Perhaps the easiest way to collaborate would be if I give you edit access to our work tracker at oka.wiki/tracker. You could then add all articles that you believe are ready for translation, mark them as "Priority 2", and one of our translators would pick them up at some point.

We have 15 full time translators covering EN, FR, PT, ES, RU, IT, DE, PL, AR languages at the moment. We're currently only publishing from these languages into EN WP, and from EN into ES and PT WP.

At the moment we focus on translation -- we may expand in the future in creating articles from scratch, if we get more funding

Let me know what you think

7804j (talk) 09:59, 30 April 2024 (UTC)