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May 2019

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Romanian rivers

77.13.19.9 (and 77.191.73.92), I will explain what I have been doing and maybe we can have a WP:CIVIL discussion then. You accused me of vandalism, but I consider it long overdue maintenance. In 2007 and 2008 about 9000 articles about rivers in Romania have been created. I'm afraid most of these do not meet the Wikipedia:Notability guidelines. Quote: If a topic has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject, it is presumed to be suitable for a stand-alone article or list. "Significant coverage" addresses the topic directly and in detail, so that no original research is needed to extract the content. Significant coverage is more than a trivial mention, but it does not need to be the main topic of the source material. If I can't find a river even as a mention in a list of rivers like this Anexe 7 PlanNationalManagement - vol.III, and I can't find it on a very detailed map, then either the river is very small (and not notable) or it doesn't exist. In both cases there shouldn't be an article about it, and I think the best solution is to redirect this article to the main river it supposedly flows into, but deletion is an option too. If I can find the river on a map, but there is no significant coverage about it (for instance Berendești), I have also created a redirect, and mentioned it as a tributary in the article about the main river it flows into. If you have reliable sources that mention these rivers, I would be very interested (and surprised).

Another topic is article names for Romanian rivers. The creator of most of the articles seemed to think that all river articles must have the word "River" in their title. While that may be common for rivers in the USA, it is not for European rivers. See WP:NCRIVER for guidelines. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think it is common usage in Romania to include "Râul" in the name of the river (outside Romanian wikipedia). In the only Romanian language online encyclopedia I could find, Enciclopedia română, the article about the Jiu is at "Jiul" (page 917) and the article about the Ialomița is at "Ialomița" (page 757). The word "rîu" (river, old spelling for "râu") is used in the description, not in the title. Markussep ^Talk 08:13, 8 May 2019 (UTC)

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