User:Maralia/MHA07

Below are my workshop comments regarding the 2007 Tag & Assess Drive.

Joining the drive

• I had just completed a big tagging drive for WPShips when the MilHist drive was announced. At that point, I figured I had already tagged about 3,000 articles for both Ships and MilHist, so more probably wouldn't kill me.

Lists and false positives

• Obviously, the search need to be refined. I've listed below some #Examples of irrelevant subcats to point out problem areas.
• Changing the bot output to reverse the order in which the article's category tree is listed would put the most relevant info—the category the article is actually in—in the most visible spot, right next to the article name.
• With some finagling, the above change could enable sorting the list by category before breaking it down into worksheets. There are several huge benefits to this:
  • A cursory review before the drive could eliminate vast swaths of systemic false positives due to iffy category trees, making the entire process lightyears more efficient.
  • During the drive, if a reviewer finds a systemic false positive, it will be easy to eliminate any related false positives, as they'll be contiguous in the list.
  • Likewise, when a reviewer has identified a category that's conclusively relevant, this would facilitate quickly tagging those articles.
• Converting underscores to spaces would make for easier reading.

Instructions and support

• Do away with strikeout. A simple  Done per section would be easier and would leave the remaining text more readable.
• I think we could write a very concise FAQ for next time that would address most scope questions.

Tallies and worksheets

• The worksheet pages were a memory hog; a smaller size per page would be helpful. My personal preference would be pages of 100, split into 4 subsections.

Timing

• Anytime is fine for me, but since WPSHIPS and WPMILHIST share so many articles (and members), some coordination when scheduling drives would be helpful.

Pet hates

• Systemic false positives really peeved me. Per my suggestions above, I'm willing to help engineer the list to avoid this next time.
• Strikeout was more work than the actual assessments—I never figured out that you could strikeout a whole block as long as you left the first number out, and somehow missed it until reviewing the talk page just today.

Rewards

• I am not really keen on the 'barnstar for participating' idea.

Examples of irrelevant subcats

Note:These are not full trees; I have trimmed them down to what I think is the breaking point for each issue.

• Confederate_states_(1861-1865) to Georgia_(U.S._state) to Geography_of_Georgia_(U.S._state) to Settlements_in_Georgia_(U.S._state) to Cities_in_Georgia_(U.S._state) to Athens,_Georgia to University_of_Georgia to University_of_Georgia_people to University_of_Georgia_faculty,_staff_and_administration to University_of_Georgia_faculty
• Confederate_states_(1861-1865) to Georgia_(U.S._state) to Sports_in_Georgia_(U.S._state) to Sports_in_Atlanta to 1996_Summer_Olympics to Competitors_at_the_1996_Summer_Olympics to Athletes_at_the_1996_Summer_Olympics
• Confederate_states_(1861-1865) to South_Carolina to Transportation_in_South_Carolina to Canals_in_South_Carolina to Intracoastal_Waterway to Chesapeake_Bay to Chesapeake_Bay_Watershed to Susquehanna_River to Susquehanna_Valley to York_County,_Pennsylvania to People_from_York,_Pennsylvania
• Confederate_states_(1861-1865) to Georgia_(U.S._state) to Politics_of_Georgia_(U.S._state) to Georgia_(U.S._state)_politicians to Georgia_(U.S._state)_politician_stubs
• Confederate_states_(1861-1865) to Georgia_(U.S._state) to Economy_of_Georgia_(U.S._state) to Companies_based_in_Georgia_(U.S._state) to Panoz to International_Motor_Sports_Association to IMSA_GT_Championship to IMSA_GTP_cars
• Military_history_of_the_United_States to History_of_United_States_expansionism to Erie_Canal to Rochester,_New_York to Education_in_Rochester,_New_York to University_of_Rochester to University_of_Rochester_alumni
• Military to Military_decorations to Ordre_de_la_Libération to Paris to Squares_in_Paris
• Military_decorations to Ordre_de_la_Libération to Paris to Tourism_in_Paris to Visitor_attractions_in_Paris to Museums_in_Paris to Art_museums_and_galleries_in_Paris
• Allied_occupation_of_Germany to East_Germany to Football_in_East_Germany to East_German_football_clubs
• Military_equipment_by_type to Weapons to Chemical_weapons to Incapacitating_agents to Psychedelics to Psychedelic_phenethylamines
• Ukrainian_Navy to Odessa to People_from_Odessa
• Lists_of_military_conflicts to Territories_under_military_occupation to Palestinian_territories to Religion_in_Palestine to Rabbis_of_the_Land_of_Israel to Mishnah_rabbis