 | WikiProject Ireland Collaboration – Second Poll on Ireland article namesPreambleThe name "Ireland" is considered to be ambiguous with respect to a number of meanings, but primarily between two entities: the island named "Ireland", and the state that occupies about 83% of it, also named "Ireland". (Northern Ireland, which comprises the remaining portion of the island, is part of the United Kingdom.) Currently, the state is located at "Republic of Ireland" while the island is located at "Ireland" (there is also an Ireland disambiguation page). Both uses of the name "Ireland" are considered equally valid and neither can be selected as the most common per standard naming convention rules, which has led to long debates (and edit wars) about the issues. Other naming conflicts that involve countries do not provide consistent advice for resolution of this issue (compare, for example, Luxembourg, Georgia (country), Tasmania, and People's Republic of China). As there was a stalemate in achieving consensus on the issue, it was decided in 2009 to use the results of a poll of all Wikipedia editors to resolve the matter. This poll, xxx was inconclusive in terms of a change from the status quo, and a moratorium was placed on discussions of the topic of the article names for two years. That period ended in September 2011. Subsequent discussion shows once again that a number of editors consider the status quo to be problematic. It has been decided to try to gauge community-wide consensus on this issue by having another poll, this time containing two of the most likely options, based again on solutions used for other country names, and based on post-moratorium discussions on the Ireland Collaboration Project; these are listed below. They are presented in the same relative order that they were in 2009, along with links to essays from its participants which voters are strongly encouraged to read before making their choice. Regardless of the solution, appropriate hatnotes will be used to guide readers to the appropriate articles. Further discussion at the Ireland Collaboration Project will also take place before renaming to resolve other issues such as how the state will be referred to in the text of other articles. It is important to understand that it is not the truth-value of the article names which is really the problem. One can argue for or against the merits of (in alphabetical order) Ireland or Ireland (island) or Ireland (state) or Republic of Ireland and each of them has both its advantages and disadvantages, and all of them are "true" depending on a point of view. But what is really the problem is sociological. The status quo attracts argument and this has fostered ill will for nearly a decade. This poll is offered to determine whether members of the English Wikipedia as a whole could agree whether or not a change from the status A number of the members of the Ireland Collaboration Project approve of this poll being held. They have put their names in this list of Supporters. A number of the members of the Ireland Collaboration Project do not approve of this poll being held. They have put their names in this list of Non-supporters. Nevertheless, the supporters of having the poll have decided to be bold and put the poll in the field. Statements by individual members of the projectPosition statements by some of the Ireland Collaboration Project's editors can be viewed on the position statements page. See also
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Ballot options edit
- Option A: A disambiguation page at Ireland. The island at Ireland (island). The state at Ireland (state). More info?
- Option B: A disambiguation page at Ireland (disambiguation). The island at Ireland. The state at Ireland (state). More info?
- Option C: A disambiguation page at Ireland (disambiguation). The island at Ireland. The state at Republic of Ireland. More info?
Please read through the detailed information below, which makes precise what ramification each option will have, for instance in the first sentence of the different articles. The place for actual ballotting follows that section.
Detailed information about the ballot options edit
- A: A disambiguation page at Ireland. The island at Ireland (island). The state at Ireland (state).
Name of Page Initial text (the first sentence in the article) Ireland (island) Ireland is the third-largest island in Europe, and the twentieth-largest island in the world. Ireland (state) Ireland is an independent state in north-western Europe. The modern sovereign state occupies about five-sixths of the island of Ireland, which was partitioned on 3 May 1921. Ireland Ireland commonly refers to: ...
- B: The island at Ireland. The state at Ireland (state).
- Ireland → no change
- Republic of Ireland → Ireland (state)
- Ireland (disambiguation) → no change
Name of page Initial text (the first sentence in the article) Ireland Ireland is the third-largest island in Europe, and the twentieth-largest island in the world. Ireland (state) Ireland is an independent state in north-western Europe. The modern sovereign state occupies about five-sixths of the island of Ireland, which was partitioned on 3 May 1921. Ireland (disambiguation) Ireland commonly refers to: ...
- C: The island at Ireland. The state at Republic of Ireland.
- Ireland → no change
- Republic of Ireland → no change
- Ireland (disambiguation) → no change
Name of page Initial text (the first sentence in the article) Ireland Ireland is the third-largest island in Europe, and the twentieth-largest island in the world. Republic of Ireland Ireland is an independent state in north-western Europe. The modern sovereign state occupies about five-sixths of the island of Ireland, which was partitioned on 3 May 1921. Ireland (disambiguation) Ireland commonly refers to: ...
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Comments edit
Yep.
Volapuk academy edit
Its aim was to help the past creater of Volapuk, Johann Martin Schleyer, in the pluevoluigo of the language himself/herself/itself. Tazio Carlevaro said that hierarkia committee, consisting out of a leader (cifal), Schleyer self, and out of afergvidanto (or director: dilekel), the big French Volapuk-pioniro August Kerckhoffs. 17 lingvospecialistoj out of twelve lands were chosen how unuaklasaj academy-members (kademals), and one foresaw the alelekton of duaklasaj academy-members (kademels) and of correspondental academy-members (kademans) as a whole was 31 members in the academy. The sit-place of an academy was in Paris
Schleyer koncedis to Kerckhoffs, that the organizal form decided in Munkeno should be being considerred only how temporary and that definite-ize (or change) from the academial structure will decide in the pliposta congress international (which will occur in Paris in the year 1889). Besides, Kerckhoffs received from Schleyer the permission alelekti to the 17 academy-members 7 additional of him selektitajn human beings. An organ of the academy was circulate-pieces of the director (Zulags), and besides the organ, which directed Kerckhoffs self: Le Volapuk
The grammars of August Kerckhoffs already since 1887 fundamentally differred from the Volapuk of Schleyer. Especially in order to finish the fight between them Kerckhoffs organized the third congress of the move ment in Paris of the 19-a until the 21-a of August 1889
In 1889 occurred in Paris the third international congress of Volapuk. That congress approved new regulationses of the academy, according to which aim of the academy is to complete and to improve the grammar and a dictionary of Volapuk. Nevertheless already before 1889 exploded a conflict between Schleyer and Kerckhoffs, because the first interpretted this aim small-izally, namally he permitted at the most to rich-ize Volapuk, during here-last intended to reform it radically aimally to a lingvo-simpligo. Kerckhoffs succeeded to remove the Schleyeran a vetoo-rajton innally of the academy. Schleyer self never consented with this essential limit of oneself's aŭtorrajtoj, and when Kerckhoffs proposed to the academy a blockal reform of Volapuk, Schleyer fired blockally the entire academy
In 1890 Schleyer self chose a new Volapukkal academy, out of human beings fullly faithful to his lingvo-konceptaro with 49 members, whose sit-place was in Konstanz. It nevertheless remained essentially non-active, and according to the few informations, which appeared about it in the central organ of Volapuk Volapukabled lezenodik it became a limit at the approval of the decisions of Schleyer. That new academy disappeared senspure already in 1893
Under the guide of Waldemar Rosenberger, since 1892, the extremely exed Kadem, whose new sit-place was in Sankt-Peterburgo, began to work for Idiom Neutral, the Volapukkal academy ceased officially in 1895, when changed self's name to Akademi Internasional from Lingu Universal (an international academy of an universal language). Under Giuseppe Peano, since 1915 the antastaŭa academy changed self's lean to Latin without a fleksio and changed the name to Academia on account of Interlingua
Behold, therefore occurred, that in the first half of the 1890-aj years parallelly existed two academies of Volapuk: the Russian, reform-tending, and the German, orthodox. The konstanza formally never, but in fact soon ceased. In the second half of the 90-th years already malantaŭ nobody out of the two academies was move ment, so was lacking the social base of their lingvo(projekto)j