User:Download/Adopt/Earlypsychosis

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hi - read and understood so far (but dont know how to input a tick)

Lesson 1

Lesson 2

Lesson 3

Lesson 4 tags (re-reading the rest on {{subst:Your message}}

Lesson 5

Lesson 4 - dont understand the following There are two major ways to include custom messages, <tt>'''<nowiki>{{Your message}} and {{subst:Your message}}. {{subst:Your message}} makes a copy of the message text and places it where you put the tag after you save an article (substitution).</nowiki>

Lession 5 - what does the prose tool do? Have noted the warning Code that you insert on this page could contain malicious content capable of compromising your account. If you are unsure whether code you are adding to this page is safe, you can ask at the appropriate village pump. If this is a .js page, the code will be executed when previewing the page. Earlypsychosis (talk) 08:32, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

Lesson 4 - Alright - for templates, transcluding, {{cleanup}}, would leave the code as {{cleanup}} after saving the page. However, if you substituted, the {{subst:cleanup}} you added to the page would be replaced by whatever the template had in it.

For example, this is subsitituted:

...and this is not substituted:

You can see the difference by clicking edit.

I am having trouble understanding this for a couple of reasons.

(1) I dont under the function - can you show me a real example and explain the function further

(2) it is difficult to see the important differences while looking at the edit page because I cant distinguish the code written to show the example and the code written to display the page.

(3) doesnt seem like a important feature?

(reset) This concept for templates is very important. For templates like {{cleanup}}, you do not substitute it so it may be easily removed and it will cause the article to fall into . However, for warning templates such as {{uw-vand1}} you need to substitute them. Also, substituting a template leaves it as is, and will not be updated if the template is changed. Transcluding a template causes the template to be updated when the template is edited; this is why high-risk templates such as {{purge}} are protected, because an edit to one would cause all articles containing {{purge}} to be updated, using up a lot of server time. Hope that makes sense. -download | sign! 18:43, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

got it!

I didnt get that the tags are subject to editing

Will suggest an improvement to your lesson - for your consideration

Lesson 5 - As long as scripts are made by a trusted user and clearly have a function, they are usually safe. For example, my prose tool adds a tab that says "prose" in the edit menu; if you click on it you automatically add {{prose}} to the article. You can find out more at Wikipedia:WikiProject User scripts/Scripts and also find a gallery of scripts that you might find useful. -download | sign! 18:24, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

how does this all work ?

messages here?

hi thanks for your offer.

have been writing the early psychosis page since December...and then directing other pages to it...and the odd edits

did my first constructive delete of a section a few days ago Talk:Treatment of schizophrenia

my current project is to write a massive restructure of treatment of schizophrenia with these new sections. Have alerted the talk page to warn others. some of the new sections are simply need cut and paste from the current article, but others will need new content - and this might take time to write. Earlypsychosis (talk) 09:15, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

Looks like you've been doing really well. Seems like you're interested in making significant contributions; I usually make minor edits, such as tagging and reverting vandalism. Well, you might as well learn how to cite the different types of references to make them go into the {{reflist}} in the "References" section automatically. -download | sign! 18:23, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

Alright; just saw your edits and it looks like you're doing really well at citing. What I would greatly recommend is including an informative edit summary on every one of your edits, even those to your userpage. This not only makes you seem like a good editor, it prevents your edits (especially if you remove content) from looking like vandalism. -download | sign! 18:27, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

major rewrite

please watch treatment of schizophrenia and the sandbox to make sure I follow correct procedures. May take a few days to get this write before I post it Earlypsychosis (talk) 08:40, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

and see my contributes to schizoaffective disorder Earlypsychosis (talk) 09:38, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

Y Done Watched; you're doing really well. Someone should give you a barnstar in a while. -download | sign! 18:50, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

Early Intervention in Psychosis

Regarding this edit [1]: I would recommend adding "see also" links to the section at the bottom of the page rather than inserting them in the middle of an article. -download | sign! 23:28, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

how did you find the link for [2]

I simply went into the history and clicked on the revisions to see what you did. -download | sign! 03:05, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

suggestion for lesson rewrite

Lesson 4: Templates

Templates often look like text boxes with a different background color from that of normal text. They are in the template namespace, i.e. they are defined in pages with "Template:" in front of the name.

For example, consider the template Template:Cleanup (follow the link to see the page where it can be edited). To insert the template's content into an article, type {{cleanup}} in the wiki page ( {{cleanup}} is called a template tag ). Every article with that tag in it will display the following text:

This technique is commonly known as transclusion  ?????. Templates can also include calculated and substituted elements, as well as parameters, allowing for complex usage. For a table of some useful templates, see Wikipedia:Template messages. For detailed templating documentation see m:Help:Template.

There are two major ways to include these templates, e.g. for the cleanup tag {{cleanup}} and {{subst:cleanup}}. {{subst:cleanup}} inserts a full makes a copy of the template code.

the reason for this is that the template can be changed or updated, whereas beacause the {{subs:cleanup}} has inserted the full code, you do not need to worry if the tag is update

Now try substituting {{cleanup}} at the sandbox. Afterwards, see the difference by editing the sandbox again. For more information, see Wikipedia:Template namespace.

etc etc

a page that uses it if you use {{cleanup}}. As a guideline, short temporary messages that will be removed soon should be copied using subst (which has the advantage of showing the message in the wiki source), and standard notices that might remain on a page for months or forever should be transcluded for easy updating. (You should not use {{cleanup}} for a message which contains any links which may change in the future. This method doesn't refresh "What links here" unless every article containing the {{cleanup}} gets changed after the modification of the link in the message.)

If you need to edit the template message individually after you put it on your page, use subst. If you don't need to edit it, and would rather the message is automatically updated along with changes made to the template, don't use subst.

Lesson 5: User Scripts

A user script is a piece of JavaScript code executed on Wikipedia pages. Scripts can make navigation easier and simplify common maintenance tasks. To import a user script, add the code to your monobook.js.

For more information, see Wikipedia:WikiProject User scripts/Scripts. Now try importing my prose tool to your monobook.js.

Lesson 6:Searching for wikipedia related topics

in the search box any search with WP: will direct the search to articles on how to edit wikipedia and articles about wiki

Lesson 7:transcluding

learning about code

how do you learn what the code does, other than guessing or using sandbox i.e. my guess is that </div> is a line, but how could I have search for it

Psychiatric service dog

was this ok?

Actually, </div> ends a </div>. A line is done by adding ----. To learn about codes, you could always go to Wikipedia:Formatting and see if there's anything you're interested there. I'll try to update my adoptee's classroom later. Thanks! -download | sign! 03:03, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

Update

You've been doing really well with your discussions and your copyedits. Keep it up! -download | sign! 20:27, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

Cheers Earlypsychosis (talk) 04:05, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

List of psychiatrists

there looks like there is a manual list List of psychiatrists and an automatic list [3]

why wont this work [[American psychiatrists|category]] .

Is there a bot that would take all those in the manual list and add the category to each? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Earlypsychosis (talk • contribs) 03:30, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

No; to add the article to the category, you must either place a template that adds it to the category or add it yourself. To add the article to the category, simply place [[Category:American psychiatrists]] at the bottom of the page. -download | sign! 03:57, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

why wont this work [[Category:American psychiatrists|category]] category have a look at the page edit. the original question was incorrect. I am trying to show a link to the category place. Several options, dont seem to work

:::This will simply display category, and give a link to American psychiatrists. To add the article to the category, you must add [[Category:American psychiatrists]]. -download | sign! 04:33, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

Ah, sorry for the misunderstanding. To do that, simply place [[:Category:American psychiatrists]] on the page. -download | sign!

found vandalism

found some rubbish on panic attack and reverted it [4] but it didnt show. Maybe someone else did it at the same time?

Seems like Staffwaterboy beat you to the revert, as he's using Huggle, which is very fast. However, if you attempted to save the page after he made the edit, you would have arrived at the "Edit Conflict" screen. -download | sign! 23:08, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

found some more on psychosis (before any BOT). reverted it and then manually added a comment to the users - although have since found some templates to assist me. Earlypsychosis (talk) 23:09, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

I am faster than Huggle!! Earlypsychosis (talk) 23:14, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

Well if you are interested in vandalism reversion, you could always apply for rollback priviliges, and use Lupin's anti-vandal tool or download Huggle. -download | sign! 23:18, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

request denied !! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Earlypsychosis (talk • contribs) 16:28, 2 March 2009

it took ages without roll back - as I had to cut and paste the bit about IP addresses. Earlypsychosis (talk) 05:33, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

New section tab

how do you add a new section tab at the top of a page? Earlypsychosis (talk) 23:18, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

The "new section" tab only appears on talk pages. As this is not a talk page, it does not appear normally. However, there may be a script that you can add to your monobook.js that displays one on non-talk pages. (It only shows for you though in that case.) -download | sign! 23:18, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

Actually, I've found a way after some research. Simply place the template {{new}} or {{new section}} on a non-talk page. -download | sign! 00:15, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

great Earlypsychosis (talk) 00:20, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

are their some things that dont work with microsoft explorer?

Of course. Many scripts, such as Twinkle, do not work in Internet Explorer and only work in browsers such as Firefox. -download | sign! 00:04, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

had a go with the tool

have a look

sometimes warned the IPS without actually undoing the edit. (someone else got there quicker). any comments

Earlypsychosis (talk) 06:03, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

what should happen to User talk:203.24.19.228 and the IP that did this [5] —Preceding unsigned comment added by Earlypsychosis (talk • contribs) 07:32, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

If you're using Lupin's Anti-vandal tool, be sure to only warn the user/IP if you reverted it. If someone else reverted it, chances are they gave the user a warning also. -download | sign! 01:31, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

For 203.24.19.228, you could consider reporting it to WP:AIV, as it has a long history of vandalism. However, 211.30.53.87 has only received one warning and should not be reported. -download | sign! 01:35, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

WikiProjects

It's great that you joined two WikiProjects. They really help Wikipedia, taking care of content-related articles. -download | sign! 00:01, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

Rollback

Regarding this edit: [6]. You undid one of the IP's edits, but not both of them. Therefore, the "SOmethin" was left on the page. To solve this, I would recommend reading a way of reverting to an older revision at WP:Reverting. You could also ask to have rollback priviliges granted.

Yes - good point. Actually the article was seriously missing a whole section due to by incomplete undoing. Have now fixed. Also see Capital punishment in the United Kingdom. I need to learn how to do this properly. Am feeling alittle worried about downloading and using huggle.Earlypsychosis (talk) 08:12, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for fixing it! You're doing great. I myself use Huggle, and it is free from any unwanted material. -download | sign! 21:01, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

my 3rd new article

hopefully clinical formulation gets some other contributors. Earlypsychosis (talk) 08:17, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

You did a great job on it, especially with the complete citing and the stub tagging! You could always consider asking for an article review at your WikiProject. -download | sign! 20:37, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

Sign Posts

Remember to sign your posts on talk pages! :) [7] SineBot no longer automatically adds {{unsigned}} for you after you reach 500 edits. -download | sign! 19:53, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

thanks - an important milestone to note ! Earlypsychosis (talk) 07:26, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

WP: areas

Having 500 edits now, it might be a good idea to work in more collaborative areas of Wikipedia. For example, you could always work in WP:XfD, and maybe also voice your opinion in WP:RfA. Just a suggestion. -download | sign! 18:32, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

how do I vote on this? [8]. I think it should be deleted.

where do you find article on comment on for deletion? As you can see, my interests are narrowed to pscyhology and mental health. Earlypsychosis (talk) 01:07, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

If you want to comment on the article's deletion, simply edit the page and voice your opinion, using bullet points and indents as necessary. It currently isn't possible to narrow down the articles for deletion to a certain subject, but you might want to check with your WikiProject. -download | sign! 02:03, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

Requesting Deletion

Hey there! Looks like you've been doing very well recently with article collaboration. Someone's going to give you a barnstar one of these days. About this edit: [9]. If you want the page to be deleted, you might want to tag it with a speedy deletion template. In this case, you would use {{db-user}}. -download | sign! 04:07, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

 ::that was my sandbox.  I finished the draft and that cut and pasted it to another place  Earlypsychosis (talk) 07:48, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

your advice and oversight

just undid an experienced editors change to Psychosis. He removed a NPOV tag I placed on a section, stating that I needed to suggest on talk page. I had already done this, so thought his removal of tag unreasonable. Could you please watch and advise.

• (1)I need to watch that I have all the wikipedia protocols correct

I havent read or understood the rules around editing undos or what a edit war is. Must do this asap. was it reasonable to undo their removal of my NPOV tag

• (2) need to place this within a coloured text box to show that it is the suggested change

Conceptualistion

mention differ views from clinical symptoms to range of experiences in general population and different disciplines views (psychiatry, psychology, anthropological or cultural?) The british psychological society report on psychosis [10] www.understandingpsychosis.com is a good comprehensive and peer reviewed source of information.

Clinical symptom

Continium of human experience

Incidence

how common is it, how does it vary across cultures

Causes

include a mention of physical conditions - but dont create a massive list as per the current article. include trauma evidence - torture, prisoners of war, sensory deprivation, childhood sexual abuse

Treatments

like this, but uncentred

:Conceptualistion

mention differ views from clinical symptoms to range of experiences in general population and different disciplines views (psychiatry, psychology, anthropological or cultural?) The british psychological society report on psychosis [11] www.understandingpsychosis.com is a good comprehensive and peer reviewed source of information.

Clinical symptom

Continium of human experience

Incidence

how common is it, how does it vary across cultures

Causes

include a mention of physical conditions - but dont create a massive list as per the current article. include trauma evidence - torture, prisoners of war, sensory deprivation, childhood sexual abuse

Treatments

Earlypsychosis (talk) 05:51, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

• • Well, there is a rule about reverts; you need to follow the three-revert rule. This means you will be blocked if you make 3 revisions to the same article without talking it over on a talk page. For the box, you could use HTML and <div> tags to make it. -download | sign! 18:01, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

• • • How about this for the box:

what is CAM pushing

can find it when I searched for WP:CAM pushing ? What is it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Earlypsychosis (talk • contribs) 07:47, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

I'm not very sure, but it seems to do with fringe science and POV. However, you could check the helpdesk or place {{helpme}} on your talk page. -download | sign! 17:59, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

For instance, most mainstream health professionals reject most of the complementary and alternative medicine (CAM) methods; however, the articles about them are usually written and maintained by people who are CAM enthusiasts or even CAM practitioners. Although the books on CAM topics are not considered reliable by vast majority of health professionals, they are used as reliable and verifiable sources on Wikipedia because the majority of editors (or the most diligent editors) do consider them reliable. As a result, those articles contain very much of the CAM POV, whereas in the real world, the mainstream POV is skeptical towards CAM. on Wikipedia:Wikipedia is a chatroom Earlypsychosis (talk) 10:30, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

Edit Counting

I just checked your edits using Soxred93's edit counter: [13]. It shows that you have a good majority of your edits to the article mainspace which is good. However, I would really recommend you increase your edits to the article and WP namespaces more, as this is very important for things such as adminship. -download | sign! 23:00, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

and I havent been banned!! Earlypsychosis (talk) 08:56, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

That, of course, is a very important thing that people check if you ever want to become an admin. Keep it up! -download | sign! 21:12, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

what do you think about this

Wikipedia:AutoWikiBrowser —Preceding unsigned comment added by Earlypsychosis (talk • contribs) 06:19, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

AutoWikiBrowser can be a very helpful tool; I actually do use it. It can help you find and replace, tag articles, and fix typos. It's very helpful, and if you're interested, you should get approval and download it. -download | sign! 22:24, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

have a look

have a look at my undo on Major depressive disorder. seems like a bit of conflict going on. will keep out of the conflict and focus on article. Earlypsychosis (talk) 09:43, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

It does seem like there's a bit of a conflict. Keeping out of it is good; if it continues to a high level, take it to the talk page. You don't want to get blocked for violating the three-revert rule. -download | sign! 00:56, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

I tired this on early intervention in psychosis

looks interesting, but dont know if it did anything when I used this DOI Bot Earlypsychosis (talk) 09:56, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

Judging from the history, you made two edits, one manual and one to cite a reference. I'm not sure if the bot did it or you did it manually. -download | sign! 00:57, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

manually. have you tried the bot? Earlypsychosis (talk) 01:23, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

I have used this bot on several articles.  :) -download | sign! 01:41, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

on hoilday soon

on holiday from 25th March to mid April. No access to computers!! Catch up soon. Earlypsychosis (talk) 21:04, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

See you later! Have fun! -download | sign! 21:05, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

I'm back!! Earlypsychosis (talk) 02:44, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

Great to see you back! We can get on now.  :) -download | sign! 02:56, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

I have been. Look at my contributes! Earlypsychosis (talk) 03:49, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

Article Assessment

About Early intervention in psychosis: It's a great article now! You should ask for it to be assessed once again as it deserves higher than a C right now. -download | sign! 03:52, 13 April 2009 (UTC) who do I ask? Earlypsychosis (talk) 07:13, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

You can go to the WikiProject Psychology page and go to their assessment center. A member will come along shortly and reassess the article. -download | sign! 18:44, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

vandalism tools

I have been using Lupins anti vandal tool

now ready for more....Huggle or Twinkle ?

what are the differences, advantages and disadvantages of each? Earlypsychosis (talk) 22:17, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

Huggle is the best anti-vandalism tool on Wikipedia. However, you will need to download a program in order to use it. Twinkle is not so good for anti-vandalism, but is extremely good for New Page Patrol and Image Patrol. I don't use Twinkle very much, but I use Huggle a lot. -download | sign! 00:24, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

Graduation

Alright, it's been over 1 month in our adoption. I've looked over your contribs, and I think you're sufficiently learned about Wikipedia. Therefore, if you don't have any more questions, you're free to graduate (with an awesome adoptee barnstar of course)! Of course, if you still have questions in the future, feel free to ask me on my talk page. Best, -download | sign! 02:32, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

oh no...I guess it has to happen sometime. Thank you so much for all your help. Keep up all your good work. Earlypsychosis (talk) 09:02, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

Have a great time editing! Feel free to contact me if you have any more questions. You'll become a great Wikipedian. -download | sign! 21:08, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

Contributions Userbox

Just stopped by your userpage today, and I saw you had a userbox "This user has made over 27 contributions to Wikipedia." In case you're wondering, it should be over 700 as you have over 700 edits.  :) -download | sign! 22:33, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

yes, its a joke (but not funny) 27 is my favourite number. Clicking on the link will show all my edits. I'm not happy with the formatting of the user box, and cant seem to fix it Earlypsychosis (talk) 09:03, 22 April 2009 (UTC)