Template talk:Infobox settlement/Archive 14

Haultain, Saskatoon is showing up in Holland. Its coordinates (in the infobox) appear to be roughly OK yet are being translated into nonsense. (|latd= 52|latm=6 translates to 52N, 6E for some reason.) Is this a glitch in the infobox? Occuli (talk) 19:13, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

Fixed. It needed the lat_NS long_EW specified (N,W). By the way there was and probably still is a slew of bogus coordinates, where editors combined negative longitudes with the W postfix, resulting in coordinates on the eastern hemisphere. I could compile a list of these articles. --Dschwen 19:41, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

GDP and climate

I was editing the article about Araranguá based in the Portuguese article, but there is not any field for GDP or climate, like the Portuguese template does. May be the climate can be inserted using the Template:Infobox Weather (although I want a more simple field with climate type and average temperature), but the GDP information field (GDP and GDP per capita) would be very useful. Another fields to be added could be also nearby or neighbor cities and ethnic groups (but I concern that the last one can lead to some heated discussions). Gabrieldiego (talk) 01:49, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

I made some changes to Araranguá using the "blank" fields. For the near by locations, you can use {{Geographic Location}}. —MJCdetroit ^(yak) 03:46, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

Geographic coordinates for a settlement

I'm looking at the geo-coordinates for a number of cities near where I live and they seem bizarre as in every case they are either pointing at empty land or residential neighborhoods two or more miles from the city downtown.. How are geo-coordinates determined for Wikipedia articles? One thought for a standard is to use the same center that's used for road distance signs to that city. Here is the U.S. federal standard:

http://mutcd.fhwa.dot.gov/pdfs/2003r1r2/pdf_index.htm

Manual Uniform Traffic Control Devices (MUTCD) for Streets and Highways

2003 edition, Including Revision 1 dated November 2004 and Revision 2 dated December 2007

Chapter 2D - Guide Signs - Conventional Roads

Section 2D.36 Distance Signs (D2 Series)

The distance shown should be selected on a case-by-case basis by the jurisdiction that owns the road or by statewide policy. A well-defined central area or central business district should be used where one exists. In other cases, the layout of the community should be considered in relation to the highway being signed and the decision based on where it appears that most drivers would feel that they are in the center of the community in question.

Obviously, using that may make it tough to locate verifiable sources for the center of each settlement as it's done on a case-by-case basis. Some of the "answer" style web sites use something along the lines of "... a point near the center of the community. A public building such as a post office, city hall or courthouse is used as a point of reference for the center of the community." Unfortunately, none of these point to reliable and verifiable sources. askville.amazon.com even claims to quote an apparently mythical "federal regulation" and a couple of answer pages claim that wording is from the the state of Iowa DOT but again I can't verify it. --Marc Kupper|talk 20:31, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

Please see WikiProject Geographical coordinates and pages linked from there. Andy Mabbett (User:Pigsonthewing); Andy's talk; Andy's edits 22:25, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

Replace ² with ²

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Replace ² with <sup>2</sup>

• WP:MOS#Unit symbols and abbreviations, 7th bullet. Two instances. Cheers, Jack Merridew 09:12, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

 Done (and the subtemplates) —MJCdetroit ^(yak) 14:58, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

Add a line for disestablishment or "merging"

Now in 2009 here in Finland, over 99 municipalities merged with each other and thus many were disestablished (can someone pick up better English words for these?). So it would be a good thing if we could add this to this template and could see from it it's no longer a current municipality clearly. Either something along "Disestablished = 2008" or "Merged: Ekenäs, Pohja" (name of other municipalities it was merged). So please do so, thanks. --Pudeo? 12:23, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

Also, could someone look whether the line map could be put on shield's right side? It does work well now with countries that are close to equal sizes from sides, but look at Helsinki, Finland is too long and too thin country to fit in the template. If the map is on the right side like fi:Helsinki, it will work. There could be an option for this. --Pudeo? 12:31, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

In regards to your first request: a couple months ago we discussed adding something like this to the politics section:

|extinct_title = ...

|extinct_date = ...

The fields would allow you to specify the date that the municipality ceased to be, and to supply the appropriate term to use. (Original thread.) These haven't yet been added — would someone be willing/able to make this change? Huwmanbeing ☀★ 13:39, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

Sounds good. It should probably come after "Charter". Now we just need an admin.. --Pudeo? 15:36, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

 Done. I also added to the fields to the {{Infobox Finnish Municipality}} shell of Infobox Settlement. It worked in a quick test in Helsinki (here the diff before I reverted). —MJCdetroit ^(yak) 02:10, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

About the English words, according to Finnish–English Dictionary of Real Estate, [1] published by the Helsinki University of Technology, "consolidation of municipalities" is the right English phrase for Finnish "kuntaliitos". --Apalsola ^{t • c} 18:37, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

You can title it whatever you want in |extinct_title = —MJCdetroit ^(yak) 05:46, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

Twin Cities

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Please add 2 or more "Twin Cities" lines to the template. I'm trying to edit Alexandria, which has 9 different twin cities, and only 7 of them appear because of the way the template is set. Thank you. --Lanternix (talk) 14:48, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

I suggest adding three, for future-proofing. Andy Mabbett (User:Pigsonthewing); Andy's talk; Andy's edits 13:27, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

 Done but only 2 more fields. If we need one more someone can add it later. —MJCdetroit ^(yak) 02:16, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

Settlements in the Achaea prefecture

Unresolved

A number of articles in List of settlements in the Achaea prefecture have hard-coded tables instead of Infobox Settlement templates, I fixed one, but there are plenty more, if someone's looking for something to do! Andy Mabbett (User:Pigsonthewing); Andy's talk; Andy's edits 23:17, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

I'll also make a bot request. Andy Mabbett (User:Pigsonthewing); Andy's talk; Andy's edits 13:18, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

Demographic data

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In the deletion debate for {{Community area}}, has a section on demographic data which is not part of this template. Would there be any objections to adding it here (suitably modified for global use, of course)? Andy Mabbett (User:Pigsonthewing); Andy's talk; Andy's edits 03:09, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

I'll see what I can come up with in the next few days. No promises. —MJCdetroit ^(yak) 17:25, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

Thank you. Andy Mabbett (User:Pigsonthewing); Andy's talk; Andy's edits 15:11, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

Check out the second example on the Template:Infobox Settlement/testcases page. That should be good enough, eh? And here is the code that would be added if you would like to view it. —MJCdetroit ^(yak) 17:23, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

That looks good to me, thank you. The deletion debate closed as "no consensus", so I'll mention this on {{Community area}}'s talk page, then re-list later. Andy Mabbett (User:Pigsonthewing); Andy's talk; Andy's edits 18:24, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

There have been no comments, so please go ahead with that change. Thank you. Andy Mabbett (User:Pigsonthewing); Andy's talk; Andy's edits 13:24, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

 Done. This was done a few days ago. Check out the "Complete Empty Syntax" on the main page (or the doc page) for the fields and the big explaination table for how they work. If you use them on an article, leave a note here so we can put it in the table as an example. —MJCdetroit ^(yak) 02:16, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

Area code

It would be useful to implement an area_code_type datafield to enable Area code to link to e.g. Telephone numbers in Croatia instead of just plain Telephone numbering plan. I have put up a possible solution at User:Admiral Norton/sandbox. --Admiral Norton ^(talk) 19:47, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

 Done. I did it in a slightly different way than your solution, but it works the same. —MJCdetroit ^(yak) 14:56, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. Admiral Norton ^(talk) 00:20, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

Questions

Could somebody more familiar with this template than I please answer the questions asked here? Andy Mabbett (User:Pigsonthewing); Andy's talk; Andy's edits 00:33, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

I gave it a once over. They were good questions that may lead to some improvements. —MJCdetroit ^(yak) 02:40, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

Thank you. Andy Mabbett (User:Pigsonthewing); Andy's talk; Andy's edits 20:35, 12 January 2009 (UTC)