Template:Did you know nominations/Wendy Watson Nelson

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The result was: promoted by Yoninah (talk) 13:43, 8 May 2018 (UTC)

Wendy Watson Nelson edit

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... that Wendy Watson Nelson ~~studied both nursing and marriage and family therapy prior to teaching~~ taught nursing students that "the family's ability to change depends upon their ability to alter their perception of the problem"? Source: The Cutting Edge of Family Nursing pg. 97; PDF download. Watson co-edited the chapter.
- ALT1:... that a reviewer of the book Wendy Watson Nelson co-authored wrote that it "extended the application of narrative approaches [to family therapy] beyond psychosocial problems to broader, biopsychosocial-spiritual contexts"? Source: 1997 Larry B. Mauksch review in Volume 15, winter issue of Families, Systems, & Health. No open source version available that I know of.

Reviewed: Cathinka Buchwieser

Converted from a redirect by Rachel Helps (BYU) (talk). Self-nominated at 17:57, 12 April 2018 (UTC).

Article was recently expanded from a redirect, is long enough and there are no copyvio concerns. The hook is sourced properly and is interesting (and personally rings a chord with me - when your kids get to be teenagers, you can't yell at them saying "do this, because I said so" - doesn't work and backfires horribly). Good to go. Ritchie333 ^(talk) ^(cont) 19:17, 12 April 2018 (UTC)

Both hooks need some grammatical help. The first lists three things (with too many ands) and refers to them as "both", which is normally used for two things. The second uses awfully big words; hard to parse in a short hook. Which hook are you approving, Ritchie333? Yoninah (talk) 14:20, 16 April 2018 (UTC)

The original - looks interesting and readable to me. Ritchie333 ^(talk) ^(cont) 14:32, 16 April 2018 (UTC)

Readable? But not grammatical. The article is also an orphan and needs to be linked in at least one other Wikipedia page to avoid an orphan tag. Yoninah (talk) 14:34, 16 April 2018 (UTC)

Surely it's "Wendy Watson Nelson studied nursing. She studied marriage and family therapy. The she taught nurses that "the family's ability...." Ritchie333 ^(talk) ^(cont) 14:41, 16 April 2018 (UTC)

I linked to the page from two other pages so it is no longer an orphan. I agree that the wording of the hook is confusing. I struckthrough the first clause; does that read more smoothly? It could also read as:
ALT2: ... that Wendy Watson Nelson studied both clinical therapy and nursing prior to teaching nursing students that "the family's ability to change depends upon their ability to alter their perception of the problem"? Rachel Helps (BYU) (talk) 17:58, 16 April 2018 (UTC)

I gave ALT2 a label, but at 208 characters it is too long for DYK. Rachel Helps (BYU), can you please come up with something below 200 characters, so it meets the DYK rules? Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 21:54, 23 April 2018 (UTC)

Sorry about that @BlueMoonset:. How about these?
ALT3 ... that Wendy Watson Nelson taught nursing students that "the family's ability to change depends upon their ability to alter their perception of the problem"?
ALT4 ... that Wendy Watson Nelson helped develop the Family Nursing Systems Model, a "world famous model for family nursing practice"? Rachel Helps (BYU) (talk) 15:58, 25 April 2018 (UTC)

ALT5: ... that Wendy Watson Nelson and her co-authors of the book Beliefs: The Heart of Healing in Families and Illness developed the Family Systems Nursing Model? Yoninah (talk) 01:00, 29 April 2018 (UTC)

New reviewer needed for alts. Yoninah (talk) 21:59, 6 May 2018 (UTC)

ALT3 checks out with an inline citation. ALTs 4 and 5 have an inline/offline citation, so accepted on good faith. --Usernameunique (talk) 04:46, 7 May 2018 (UTC)