Template:Did you know nominations/Surin Elephant Round-up
- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by Victuallers (talk) 16:58, 6 May 2015 (UTC)
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Surin Elephant Round-up edit
- ... that 100 soldiers compete against a single elephant in a tug of war during the Surin Elephant Round-up, but the elephant wins?
- ALT1:... that bull elephants walk over their Mahout during the Surin Elephant Round-up?
- ALT2:... that Eliza Ruhamah Scidmore called the Surin Elephant Round-up (pictured) "The Greatest Hunt in the World " when she wrote about it in National Geographic?
- Comment: Saved the article from AFd, would be awesome to get it to DYK
5x expanded by FreeatlastChitchat (talk). Self-nominated at 10:56, 17 April 2015 (UTC).
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Policy compliance:
- Adequate sourcing:
- Neutral:
- Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:
- Parts of the article appear to copied from other sources with only minor changes (sometime without any before my recent copyedit). For example:
(Original) The people of Surin were traditionally excellent at capturing elephants in Cambodia, then training them as working animals. The elephant's decreasing economic importance has forced elephant handlers to turn to entertainment to make a living. [1]
(Wikipedia) the people of Surin were traditionally adept at capturing elephants and training them as working animals... the elephant's decreasing economic importance forced the elephant handlers (mahouts) to turn to entertainment to make a living.
(Original) from the railway station to the elephant roundabout at the southern end of the city on Prasat road. [2]
(Wikipedia) from the railway station area toward the Elephant roundabout at the south end of the city on the Prasat road.
See [3] for other examples. Hook eligibility:
- Cited: - see below
- Interesting:
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Overall: 
The first hook is sourced to "Thailand Stories" which may or may not be a reliable source and in any case speaks only of one specific year. The ALT1 hook doesn't appear to be in the main article. The ALT2 hook is sourced and verified. Overall the article is very interesting, but close paraphrasing concerns need to be addressed. ThaddeusB (talk) 16:38, 23 April 2015 (UTC)
Given the technicality of this subject, it is obvious that we can find the located source right after searching at least 9 exact words from this article on any search engine. Since ALT2 has been source and verifiable, I believe that we should go with that. OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 16:06, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
I'm not sure what OccultZone's comment is supposed to mean. The problem wasn't with the ALT2 hook, but rather copyright violations in the article via close paraphrasing. That said, numerous edits by FreeatlastChitchat have fixed the paraphrasing problems. Thanks! We are good to go for ALT2 which is directly cited and has been verified by the provided inline citation. --ThaddeusB (talk) 16:24, 4 May 2015 (UTC)
- I was mostly clarifying how there were evidences of close paraphrasing before and mostly due to the usage of particular technical terms. Fixed now, so yes we are done here. OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 16:36, 4 May 2015 (UTC)
