Template:Did you know nominations/Point of Graves Cemetery
- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by Mifter (talk) 21:31, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
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Point of Graves Cemetery edit
... that Portsmouth's oldest known surviving burial ground, Point of Graves, is pointless?Source: "With the first burial here occurring in 1669, to being formally established in 1671, this historic burying ground is the oldest in Portsmouth and one of the oldest in New Hampshire." Point of Graves Burial Ground Walking Tour; "Point of Graves is aptly named, because at one time it sat almost directly on a point of land that looked directly at the Piscataqua River." Portsmouth Cemeteries; "The city’s oldest surviving burying ground is across next to Strawbery Banke and across from Strawbery Banke Museum." WHAT'S NEW? Historic Portsmouth Cemeteries- ALT1:... that ...? Source: "You are strongly encouraged to quote the source text supporting each hook" (and [link] the source, or cite it briefly without using citation templates)
Created by FloridaArmy (talk) and 7&6=thirteen (talk). Nominated by 7&6=thirteen (☎)) at 15:40, 3 November 2018 (UTC).
New enough, long enough, neutrally written, well referenced, no close paraphrasing seen. The hook is catchy and hook ref verified and cited inline. Images in article are freely licensed. QPQ done. I have moved the page to Point of Graves Burial Ground as that appears to be the proper name. However, this will cause some repetition in the hook. Do you want:- ALT0a:
... that Point of Graves, the oldest known surviving burial ground in Portsmouth, New Hampshire, is pointless?Yoninah (talk) 23:42, 5 November 2018 (UTC)
- I am good with either. Thanks for the suggestion. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 23:43, 5 November 2018 (UTC)
@Yoninah: User:7&6=thirteen: Unfortunately, per this discussion at WP:ERRORS I have pulled this one so that it can be clarified. The issues raised are (a) that it is not at all clear what "pointless" means, and (b) Qwirkle thinks it is actually *still* on a point of land. I would also recommend including "New Hampshire" against Portsmouth, for clarity. Thanks — Amakuru (talk) 11:08, 15 December 2018 (UTC)
- Thanks for putting in the cue (after over a month's wait).
- I was unaware of the discussion at WP:DYK errors.
- I also thought that the ambiguity of "pointless" was what made it hooky, and it is supported by the sources. In fact, the river has moved. Putting in New Hampshire into the hook is certainly agreeable. @Yoninah: any suggestions on how to get this back on point? 7&6=thirteen (☎) 12:51, 15 December 2018 (UTC)
- ALT2:... that the victim of the first published account of a house fire in America can be found at the Point of Graves in Portsmouth, New Hampshire? --PFHLai (talk) 14:15, 15 December 2018 (UTC)
- The ALT2 fact has a "better source needed" tag. There is also another "citation needed" tag for something that might make a good hook:
- ALT3:
... that motifs from headstones in the Point of Graves Burial Ground migrated into local house architecture?Yoninah (talk) 17:42, 15 December 2018 (UTC)
- I inserted additional source for ALT 2. Can't find the source for ALT3. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 18:34, 15 December 2018 (UTC)