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The result was: promoted by Alex ShihTalk 15:31, 16 August 2013 (UTC)
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Lavabit edit
- ... that the email service Lavabit mysteriously shut down today, less than a month after it was learned that NSA leaker Edward Snowden was using it?
Created by Gamaliel (talk). Self nominated at 21:40, 8 August 2013 (UTC).
Meets newness, length and policy criteria. Hook is interesting, verified and short enough. QPQ is done. Suggest that the editor who promotes this to the prep changes "today" in the hook to "August 8, 2013" IronGargoyle (talk) 22:34, 8 August 2013 (UTC)
- This looks like a good candidate. It would be nice if we could somehow fit in the fact that the owner says that he cannot legally say why he shut it down. --Guy Macon (talk) 23:18, 8 August 2013 (UTC)
- I wanted to do that as well, but I couldn't find a way to make the hook short enough. Gamaliel (talk) 23:44, 8 August 2013 (UTC)
- How about this hook? It is at 200 words. IronGargoyle (talk) 00:19, 9 August 2013 (UTC)
- ALT 1 ... that Ladar Levison, owner of e-mail service Lavabit, said he can't legally disclose the reasons for its mysterious closure, which occurred soon after Edward Snowden's use of the service was disclosed?
- I like it. Just the right balance between providing information and being a teaser that draws the reader in to read further. --Guy Macon (talk) 00:51, 9 August 2013 (UTC)
- Me too! The only caveat I have is that I would leave out his name. I don't think it's necessary and I have a little BLP twinge I can't quite articulate about putting someone's name on the front page when they aren't notable enough for their own article. Gamaliel (talk) 01:31, 9 August 2013 (UTC)
- ALT 2 ... that the owner of e-mail service Lavabit said he can't legally disclose the reasons for its mysterious closure, which occurred soon after Edward Snowden's use of the service was disclosed?
- That's a good point. I was going back and forth about that. ALT 2 removes his name and makes a hook which was pushing the 200-character limit push the limit a little bit less. IronGargoyle (talk) 01:56, 9 August 2013 (UTC)
- Me too! The only caveat I have is that I would leave out his name. I don't think it's necessary and I have a little BLP twinge I can't quite articulate about putting someone's name on the front page when they aren't notable enough for their own article. Gamaliel (talk) 01:31, 9 August 2013 (UTC)
- I like it. Just the right balance between providing information and being a teaser that draws the reader in to read further. --Guy Macon (talk) 00:51, 9 August 2013 (UTC)
- I wanted to do that as well, but I couldn't find a way to make the hook short enough. Gamaliel (talk) 23:44, 8 August 2013 (UTC)
I like that wording a lot better. Deadbeef 09:05, 9 August 2013 (UTC)
ALT 3 ... that the owner of the Lavabit e-mail service said he can't legally disclose the reasons for its mysterious closure, which occurred soon after Edward Snowden's use of the service was disclosed?
I think ALT 3 is the way to go. ALT 3 is a slight variant of ALT 2, which I suggested. I know I'm not supposed to approve my own hook, but in suggesting a slight variant Guy Macon implicitly approved most of ALT 2. If there's ever a case for WP:IAR in hook approval, I think this is it. IronGargoyle (talk) 14:46, 14 August 2013 (UTC)