Template:Did you know nominations/Isabella Coler Herb

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The result was: promoted by Theleekycauldron (talk) 00:02, 9 January 2022 (UTC)

Isabella Coler Herb

Created by Maile66 (talk). Self-nominated at 17:48, 22 December 2021 (UTC).

  • Starting this review shortly. Stay tuned. Ktin (talk) 04:08, 23 December 2021 (UTC)
General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Article meets eligibility criteria - newness and length. Tone of the article is neutral. QPQ done. Wow, that was from some time back - took me back to Yoninah's memories looking at the QPQ. Looks well sourced. However, I will WP:AGF on all of the offline sources, unless there is a way to share some of the material there. Earwig's copyvio detector does show a ~35% hit with the northwestern.edu link. However, seems alright on closer inspection. Hook's source says This machine provided two important functions: a means to administer ether, as well as a way to suction blood and mucous from the surgical area and the patient’s airway. whereas the hook makes that designed the Herb-Mueller Apparatus to help doctors and dentists administer ether to patients. There is a subtle difference here, but, I think we can let it be. Will give the nominator a chance to see if they want to fix it. But, if they want to run as-is, I will be alright with that. Passing back to nominator. Ktin (talk) 04:18, 23 December 2021 (UTC)

@Ktin: You're going to have to clarify for me. Are you concerned because I did not include the suction feature in the hook? Or is it the dentist word, because the source also says "It was especially popular with dentists and ear, nose and throat surgeons." I'm not understanding. — Maile (talk) 11:20, 23 December 2021 (UTC) And just as a note on the Earwig return, it also says "Violation Unlikely", because what Earwig highlighted are mostly things like names of institutions and departments. — Maile (talk) 11:39, 23 December 2021 (UTC)
@Maile66: Never mind. I will mark this approved. The distinction is quite subtle. Apparatus provides two important functions A and B. Inventor designed apparatus for C. C might or might not be equal to A. Anyways for our purposes I think we should just move forward. Marking approved. Ktin (talk) 14:45, 23 December 2021 (UTC)
@Ktin: Thanks so much for the review, and for digging down and reading the source. — Maile (talk) 14:53, 23 December 2021 (UTC) Note; I just adjusted the hook so it's clear she was an American. Helpful when deciding which prep to promote to. — Maile (talk) 12:26, 8 January 2022 (UTC)
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