Template:Did you know nominations/Fernando Albán Salazar

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The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:50, 12 December 2018 (UTC)

Fernando Albán Salazar

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  • ... that the devout Catholic faith of Fernando Albán Salazar is primary evidence cited by family, friends, colleagues, and bishops, as a reason to not believe the story of his apparent suicide? Source: "Also expressing concern was Venezuela’s Catholic bishops’ conference and Luis Almagro, the head of the Organization of American States and a sharp critic of Venezuela’s government. [...]Friends said the councilman was a family man and devout Catholic. “Albán is a very Christian person, with deep spiritual convictions that go contrary to a decision to take one’s life,” said Joel Garcia, a lawyer who met with Mr. Albán the night before in the tribunal, and said he seemed calm." (New York Times)

Created by Jamez42 (talk) and Kingsif (talk). Nominated by Kingsif (talk) at 22:17, 20 October 2018 (UTC).

  • Comment: I have to mention that the main description is half true since there are other reasons given for not believing suicide as the cause of death, including the differences of the versions given between the Attorney General and the Interior Minister, the fact that there weren't open windows in the tenth floor of the building, that Fernando was likely handcuffed at the moment, among others. I support the alternative nomination.
  • I understand that his main claim to fame was his death and the protests that followed, but perhaps some more information could be added about his political career, and the reasons as to why he moved to Venezuela? Another possible hook suggestion I have here, since this was a failed ITN candidate, could be discussing how his death led to protests in Venezuela (though considering this would be a political hook, it would need to be worded as neutrally as possible). Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 23:32, 22 November 2018 (UTC)
  • I agree those would definitely be interesting things to add... if there was enough available, reliable information, which sadly there isn't. The suggestion of protests as a hook is also interesting, any specific phrasing? Kingsif (talk) 02:17, 26 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Sounds good, do you have something to come after “and”? If not, perhaps “widespread condemnation of the government “. Kingsif (talk) 04:54, 2 December 2018 (UTC)
"that the death of Venezuelan politician Fernando Albán Salazar led to protests in the capital Caracas and investigations from the European Union and the United Nations"? Well, I know it was actually the high commissioner from human rights, but I suppose this suggestion could be a start. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 01:30, 5 December 2018 (UTC)
Building off Narutolovehinata5's suggestion, perhaps:
ALT2 ... that the death of Venezuelan politician Fernando Albán Salazar led to protests in Caracas and investigations from the European Union and the United Nations' Human Rights Commissioner?
Best, Mifter (talk) 03:16, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
  • As I was the one who suggested the wording for ALT2, we'll need a new reviewer here. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 00:09, 10 December 2018 (UTC)
  • ALT2 is approved as interesting, appropriately long, and supported by citations. -Bryanrutherford0 (talk) 15:27, 10 December 2018 (UTC)