Template:Did you know nominations/Catlin Brook

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The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:16, 9 March 2018 (UTC)

Catlin Brook edit

  • ... that the waterfalls on Catlin Brook are the "holy grail" of Pennsylvania waterfalls?
    • ALT1:... that the waterfalls on Catlin Brook, with blue ice columns that can persist until May, are the "holy grail" of Pennsylvania waterfalls?

Moved to mainspace by Jakob Coles (talk). Self-nominated at 21:25, 7 January 2018 (UTC).

Review

General: Article is new enough and long enough

Policy compliance:

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: Yes
  • Interesting: Yes
  • Other problems: No - The hooks seems a bit too opinionated and promotional. And it's not quite clear what "holy grail" means in this case.
QPQ: Done.

Overall: It's a shame that there isn't a picture if the falls are so attractive. I'll have a look when I get a moment. Andrew D. (talk) 22:20, 7 January 2018 (UTC)

  • I've already made it clear that these statements aren't in Wikipedia's voice by using quotation marks and attributing the author. By the way, if you're curious about the visuals, you may like this and [1] (copyrighted, sadly). Jakob (talk) 01:46, 8 January 2018 (UTC)
  • How is Catlin Brook notable in the first place? It is only 1.5 miles long, accessible only be arduous hike, there is no mention of vertical drop or average (or peak) volume of water that makes the falls worth seeing, and in fact there is a note that in drought the brook can dry up entirely. If this site was truly a 'bucket list' destination for waterfall aficionados it would get mentions by many people. Instead, the only person writing about it appears to be Jeff Mitchell. He himself wrote "holy grail" - in quotes - in his book, but does not define what he means, except perhaps hard to get to. David notMD (talk) 23:50, 8 January 2018 (UTC)
  • This morning I searched on Pennsylvania waterfalls. Various websites described 5 to 30 (!) waterfalls. None included Catlin Brook. A better hook might be that it freezes solid in winter and is often still partially frozen as late as May. David notMD (talk) 13:51, 9 January 2018 (UTC)
  • I see no issues with the hook nor the text of the article, meets criteria for no copyvios, interest, length, date of expansion/creation and neutrality. ALT0 is approved. Coffee // have a ☕️ // beans // 08:08, 8 March 2018 (UTC)