Template:Did you know nominations/Callaway Gardens

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: rejected by Narutolovehinata5 (talk) 00:20, 11 June 2022 (UTC)
Article issues remain unaddressed; nominator did not respond to pings despite activity elsewhere on-Wiki.

Callaway Gardens

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• ... that Callaway Gardens, after 70 years in operation and dodging bankruptcy in 2012, sold its revenue-producing assets to private theme park operator Herschend Family Entertainment? Source:
  • ALT1: ... that Callaway Gardens, after 70 years in operation, sold its revenue-producing assets to private theme park operator Herschend Family Entertainment? Source:
  • ALT2: ... that Callaway Gardens, after closing two major attractions in 2015, sold its revenue-producing assets to private theme park operator Herschend Family Entertainment? Source:
• QPQ=J.T. Blatty
  

5x expanded by Mgreason (talk). Self-nominated at 21:00, 8 April 2022 (UTC).

• Needs further work. There's uncited text in the article which should be taken care of, and having the word "beloved" in the DYK hook looks like a WP:NPOV violation. QPQ is done, and 5x expansion confirmed. The fact that Herschend co-owns Dollywood isn't in the article, so that parts of those alts is problematical. There are also some tone issues - instructions to the reader such as "Pay attention to the instructor and wear gloves", "but once on the course, you're responsible for yourself", and "If the Discovery Course was too difficult, the Lake Course should not be attempted" should not be present. There's also a tendency to go into not-needed details, such as the list of items with the pioneer log cabin. This needs sizable further work, and probably a bit of a trimming in places - at time this diverges from an article on to the Callaway Gardens to a Wikivoyage description of what you can do there. There's really way too much detail for most of these attractions - an encyclopedia shouldn't be recording height requirements for the TreeTop Adventure, the length/time table for all the trails, or a list of everything available for rent at the beach. Hog Farm _Talk 14:03, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

* I've revised the hooks as suggested and trimmed details from the article. Please advise. Mgrē@sŏn (Talk) 00:20, 3 May 2022 (UTC)

@Mgreason: - There's still a lot of uncited text in the article. You're going to need to have pretty much everything in there cited to a reliable source. Hog Farm _Talk 04:52, 3 May 2022 (UTC)

• @Hog Farm: The nominator added references to the article. Have your sourcing concerns been addressed? Note that the nominator hasn't edited since May 10th. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 11:06, 25 May 2022 (UTC)
  • I'll need to give it another read-through. Hog Farm _Talk 13:57, 25 May 2022 (UTC)
    • , not perfect but passable. Could use a copyedit, but that's beyond my skill/available time right now. Hog Farm _Talk 01:40, 29 May 2022 (UTC)
• @Hog Farm and Mgreason: too much of this appears to rely on primary sourcing; while I've made significant cuts, I'm not quite comfortable with a company article sourcing so much content to its own website. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/they) 09:21, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
  • - @Theleekycauldron: - It's now below the 5x expansion as there's been now at least two rounds of content removal required by the DYK review. Hog Farm _Talk 13:10, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
    • @Hog Farm: Dag nab it. Counting from 4588, the expansion target is 22,940? theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/they) 17:13, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
      • @Theleekycauldron: - And it's currently at 17kb per prosesize tool. IIRC it was barely over the line at the beginning, and between your removals and some removals of promotion-y material I requested earlier in the DYK process for this one, it's now well below. Hog Farm _Talk 17:35, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
        • Mgreason, going forward with this nomination is probably going to require not only adding enough prose to meet the 22kb mark, but also trimming out most of the primary sources still in the article. Pinging Sammi Brie, who can adequately source a tree's bark – Sammi, is there a reasonable path to right the ship here? theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/they) 00:58, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
        • Without the Columbus GA paper (one of the last missing McClatchy papers in newspapers.com), I suspect that the first few things I found on the newspaper side, travel guides etc., are not going to be very useful for this. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 03:50, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
          • looks like this one isn't gonna be addressed – multiple pings to the nominator have been left unanswered, despite their activity elsewhere on the wiki, and this doesn't look overly salvageable. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/they) 19:32, 8 June 2022 (UTC)

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