Template:Did you know nominations/Bunce Court School

The following discussion is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Crisco 1492 (talk) 03:14, 9 October 2011 (UTC)

Bunce Court School edit

Created/expanded by Marrante (talk). Self nom at 21:24, 3 October 2011 (UTC)

  • Just a heads up: There is a display problem with the references used in the footnotes section. It is the result of the new upgrade to MediaWiki 1.18 and has been reported here. As noted in the first bug report, the ref links work properly, they just look horrendous. Hopefully, the problem will be fixed soon! Marrante (talk) 09:26, 5 October 2011 (UTC)
This bug has been fixed. If the page still displays incorrectly in your browser, add "?action=purge" (without the quotes) at the end of the URL and reload the page. Marrante (talk) 06:44, 6 October 2011 (UTC)


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  • Reviewer's comment: A well-written, well-referenced and fascinating article. It does look odd, though, to find an article on a school in England written in American English. Apart from that (which doesn't affect its eligibility for DYK), it's a pleasure to read and to review. The hooks ALT1 and ALT2 are quite hard to find in the article, so either the hook or the article should be re-written to correspond more closely to each other. I have also piped the link to Sonnenfeldt in ALT3 to avoid a redirect possibly appearing on the Main Page. --NSH001 (talk)
  • Author's reply: Thank you very much for your compliments. I agree that it's a fascinating story (no wonder the many memoirs!) and it's certainly why I keep adding to it, tweaking it, etc. It's hard to put it down and I keep thinking of new places to look for information. Funny you should mention the US English because that thought just occured to me yesterday. I can't help it, I'm American and I don't write in British English. I even avoid editing and will abandon articles I've started that someone else has converted to British English. It's just that when I'm writing, I'm thinking about the message, not the "accent", as it were. For me, it's like the many actors who don't do accents because it's so much harder. I'm no Meryl Streep. I think I'm going to go put a note about this on the talk page. No doubt, the issue will be occurring to others, as well. As for re-writing the article for the hook, I'm not opposed to that either, but would rather settle on a hook first. Using the "if it bleeds, it leads" strategy of newspapers, ALT1 should be picked, but I don't know that I've even decided which hook I like best, so please step forward with your preference/s, anyone. Thanks NSH for fixing ALT3. Marrante (talk) 12:56, 7 October 2011 (UTC)
  • I just got rid of the middle initial in Sonnenfeldt's name in ALT3. It suddenly dawned on me that the reason I'd put it in there was because I'd mistakenly thought that was the article title, but I was just used to seeing it from the name used on his book. In the hook, it's just clutter. Marrante (talk) 15:51, 7 October 2011 (UTC)
  • Returned to T:TDYK after a request on WT:DYK Crisco 1492 (talk) 09:51, 8 October 2011 (UTC)
  • Comment: I have moved part of the footnote relating to the ALT1 hook into the body text so it is easier to find, but after your comment on my talk page about the school's having moved, I think that the ALT hooks I've written are all interesting, but secondary. First and foremost, the fact that makes you sit up is that it moved so completely and so early (1933) to escape Nazism, thereby saving the lives of hundreds of children and quite a few teachers, as well. In comparison, the other hooks seem insufficient. Here's my newest attempt:
  • ALT4: ... that in 1933, a mostly Jewish boarding school escaped Nazi Germany and re-opened as Bunce Court School in Kent, England, ultimately saving the lives of hundreds of children and several teachers?
Marrante (talk) 14:27, 8 October 2011 (UTC)
  • looks good to go with ALT4. --NSH001 (talk) 15:33, 8 October 2011 (UTC)