Talk:Zhunan

Taiwan

Although the disputed Wikipedia:Naming conventions (Chinese) say that we should use ROC, it said nothing about using Taiwan, ROC. I think it should either be Taiwan only or ROC only, because people that aren't interested in reading the naming conventions for Chinese would be confused. And since there are naming conventions for common names (WP:NC (common names)) as well, it would be much more appropriate to put Taiwan only. I wouldn't really care if you add extra information too.--Jerrypp772000 01:12, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

Please remember there was a third opinion given in Talk:Guantian, Tainan.--Jerrypp772000 01:55, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

Remember, Nationalist, that you said no one would say Texas(USA) either? Well, if Texas was a common name for the US. Then it would probably be like ..., USA (Texas). So they're different, because Taiwan is the most common name for the ROC.--Jerrypp772000 23:56, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

Refer to the Chinese Naming Conventions

It clearly states that you should say Republic of China. There is no need for more clarification. Taiwan is already there. The Republic of China is a sovereign state and Taiwan is not. You changed articles removing ROC or Republic of China without discussing and you are accusing others of not discussing? How dare you. Also, user vic and Jiang have both supported Republic of China over this, as this is a political entity article (city). -Nationalist 22:23, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

What are you talking about, I left notes on this page before editing the article. Also, if there's something confusing in an encyclopedia, we should always improve it by editing it.--Jerrypp772000 22:56, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

Why aren't you saying anything about the conventions? They are there for a reason. Just follow it please. -Nationalist 01:42, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

See WP:NC and third opinion in Talk:Guantian, Tainan. I will try to follow the disputed naming conventions for Chinese. But I want to tell you that Taiwan, ROC is not the same as ROC (Taiwan). I don't like the fact that you totally ignored the 3rd opinion in Talk:Guantian, Tainan.--Jerrypp772000 03:11, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

Yes. Taiwan, ROC is not the same as ROC (Taiwan) The second one is not correct. Taiwan is an administrative division under the Republic of China. Yes, please follow the conventions. Also, why dont you talk about the opinions of Jiang and Changlc and Vic in these township cases. Even Vic will agree to follow the conventions, because this is a political division. They have all reverted your edits more than once before. -Nationalist 03:39, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

Because they aren't 3rd opinions. The third opinion given in Talk:Guantian, Tainan was given by a user who doesn't know much about this, therefore the opinion should be neutral.--Jerrypp772000 03:44, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

I believe Jiang, Vic, and Changlc are very fair and neutral. Especially vic because he had previously sided with you, but now understands the naming conventions. -Nationalist 03:46, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

No, their opinion wouldn't be considered neutral at this point.--Jerrypp772000 03:56, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

Briefly read through Wikipedia:Third opinion, if you still don't believe me, please.--Jerrypp772000 18:50, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

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