Talk:Ynes Mexia

Latest comment: 1 year ago by 2600:6C67:1C00:5F7E:F521:9AE7:9382:DE40 in topic Requested move 16 September 2019

Mexican-American, Mexican, or American-Mexican? She was born in the US, being half Mexican, but lived most of her life in Mexico. Wouldn't American-Mexican, or just simply Mexican be more accurate than the current Mexican-American label? Luiz187 04:35, 15 September 2019 (UTC)

I do not believe roughly ten years out of almost seventy would be most of Ms. Mexias' life.. But if anyone has any other primary sources to contribute, that would be helpful Orchestra4 (talk) 12:32, 15 September 2019 (UTC)Reply
I do not understand the problem with the copyright on this article. I read through all three cited references that were associated with the potential copyright claim and did not see any sort of plagiarism or issue with this article. I don't spend a ton of time on wikipedia so I don't know all the intricacies, but I couldn't even see who raised the issue of copyright or any sort of explanation as to what was wrong? Unless they has been resolved and the copyright banner remains on the page. Long story short I don't see any copyright issue. Barcodeplane (talk) 17:38, 8 October 2019 (UTC)Reply
@Barcodeplane:, the plagiarised material is hidden by the copyright banners. Look at the article in edit mode to see the problematic content. Plantdrew (talk) 18:16, 8 October 2019 (UTC)Reply
@Plantdrew:, Thanks for the information. My best understanding here is that this material simply needs to be rewritten to remove the copyright issue then? Barcodeplane (talk) 20:03, 8 October 2019 (UTC)Reply
@Barcodeplane:, yes, it needs to be rewritten. I started to rewrite it when I found one sentence that was plagiarized from one source, but after looking into it further, essentially the entire article was plagiarized from multiple sources. Those sources can be used as references, but the article needs a complete overhaul so that it isn't using the exact phrasing from those sources. Plantdrew (talk) 20:45, 8 October 2019 (UTC)Reply
@Plantdrew and Barcodeplane:I have finished a large overhaul of this page. I removed the Copyvio template because I carefully reviewed each of the 3 articles with copyright violations and reworded a large portion of the text. I used Earwig's Copyvio Detector to ensure that the major violations were removed. I still have some wording to correct to ensure compliance. I also added additional citations and external links. In the near future I will be reviewing print sources from the Further reading section to confirm citations, and hope to add additional sources. Please feel free to edit and refine. Thanks. Dorevabelfiore (talk) 04:30, 9 October 2020 (UTC)Reply

Requested move 16 September 2019 edit

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: page moved. WikiWinters (talk) 21:38, 16 September 2019 (UTC)Reply



Ynés MexiaYnes Mexia – Most common variant is without diacritics. WikiWinters (talk) 13:38, 16 September 2019 (UTC)Reply

  • Comment - I would definitely support, but in checking the sources that I could check (there were 6), 5 of the 6 simply use Ynes Mexia, with no diacritics at all. However the Texas State Historical Society does use the accents as proposed, and that holds a lot of weight, but so does the California Academy of Sciences, which doesn't have the accents. Is there something definitive which shows her name? Onel5969 TT me 13:52, 16 September 2019 (UTC)Reply
    @Onel5969: I have also found that the most common variant seems to be without the diacritics; however, regardless, there should either be no diacritics or two. As it stands now, there is only a diacritic in Ynes’s first name, while sources that use diacritics in her name use one in both her first and last name. WikiWinters (talk) 14:54, 16 September 2019 (UTC)Reply
    I agree WikiWinters, either none or both. None of the sources has the single accent. Not having access to the offline sources, I'd lean to having none, since that is the preponderance of the sources I have access to.Onel5969 TT me 15:07, 16 September 2019 (UTC)Reply
    @Onel5969: How should we go about moving the page? Ynes Mexia already exists as a redirect, so it will not let me move it. I guess one could delete that page and then move it, but I don't think I have the ability to delete pages. WikiWinters (talk) 15:13, 16 September 2019 (UTC)Reply
    WikiWinters - I'll mark the current redirect for speedy deletion, and the current article to be moved to that page.Onel5969 TT me 16:17, 16 September 2019 (UTC)Reply
"Ynés Mexía was born on May 24, 1870 in Washington D.C. to Enrique Mexia, a Mexican diplomat, and Sarah Wilmer Mexía." As remarked three years ago, let's have it all or none (except if we are quoting material directly). This sentence I have copied has accents on the names of two Americans but not on the one Mexican. The source for this sentence uses no accents. I find it a bit strange that the current title has no accents, but the opening of the text has two accents. 2600:6C67:1C00:5F7E:F521:9AE7:9382:DE40 (talk) 19:27, 5 October 2022 (UTC)Reply
P.S.: I just looked at the Spanish article. It has no accents on then names. 2600:6C67:1C00:5F7E:F521:9AE7:9382:DE40 (talk) 19:29, 5 October 2022 (UTC)Reply