Talk:William Glasser

Latest comment: 15 years ago by Negalith in topic Empirical Support?

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Please REVERT the name change made today in this article by an unknown user: 68.236.117.195. Dr. Glasser is William NOT Williams. Nor, does he EVER use a middle S initial as author in any of his many books, or his copyrights, or in any of his personal or business correspondence. I have known Dr. Glasser as a personal friend and Founder of the William Glasser Institute, for over 30 years, so I speak on this matter with some authority. frankatca 21:36, 6 October, 2006 (UTC)

I don't believe that MDs are granted in psychiatry (at least in the US)...MDs are granted without qualification, and after that the physican specializes. --Dpr 03:58, 6 October 2005 (UTC)Reply

I agree. He is either a psychologist with a PhD or similar, or he would have to do furhter training after medical school to become a legitmate psychiatrist. --Expo512 (name added by Dpr)

William Glasser started out to be a chemical engineer, switched to pre-med and was trained as a physician, hence the "MD" designation. He then went on to further graduate studies in psychiatry, passed the "board" exam and was certified as a psychiatrist and practiced as such for several years. During those early years, as a psychiatrist, at the Veterans Administration Hospital in the Los Angeles area, he met Dr. G. H. Harrington, an older psychiatrist who Glasser credits as his "mentor." The two of them, working together, developed the treatment strategies that came to be called "Reality Therapy" which was the title of the second book written by Dr. Glasser. frankatca Oct. 25, 2005

The only point we were trying to make is that there is not technically any such thing as a "MD in psychiatry." Schools grant MDs, and the doctors then specialize in a certain field. It was just a question of phraseology in the text, which has since be changed, in any case. --Dpr 01:58, 26 October 2005 (UTC)Reply

I nominate this artilce for featured statusTmothyh 04:34, 25 March 2006 (UTC)Reply

Spanish translation edit

User:66.50.0.70 added a Spanish translation of this article. I have moved it to es:William Glasser at the Spanish Wikipedia. Dave6 talk 06:48, 9 March 2007 (UTC) THANK YOU DAVE. I'M NOT A COMPUTER EXPERT, AND SO I DIDNI'T KNOW HOW TO INSERT MY WORK IN THE SPANISH WIKIPEDIA. AGAIN THANKS! ANGEL MILLETReply

Glasser Image & Text edit

Linda Harshman, Executive Director of the William Glasser Institute, has given the Wikipedia formal permission (see below) to post the photograph of Dr. Glasser that appears on the Institute website. I posted that image previously and it was removed altho removal was protested. I will soon restore it. Ms Harshman requests a small correction to the text, which I am making today.

"Dear Mr. Ferguson: This email will give permission for Dr. Glasser's picture to be used on the Wikipedia page.

In terms of what is written I would change the second sentence to say that He is notable for having developed a theory that explains how and why we behave. I don't believe it is accurate to say ....developed a cause and effect theory.

Sincerely,

Linda S. Harshman, MSW Executive Director The William Glasser Institute 22024 Lassen Street, Suite 118 Chatsworth, CA 91311 (818) 700-8000; (818) 700-0555 fax http://www.wglasser.com"

Frankatca 01:52, 3 April 2007 (UTC)Reply

Empirical Support? edit

So, is Glasser's body of work yet another exercise in psychological theory building?... or... does it have a legitimate body of empirical support?

Although most psychological theories have traces of reasonable notions, I think a healthy dose of skepticism is called for....and this entry is yet another example.

The fact that this Wiki reference only leads us to look at Glasser's own web site for further information is worrisome. Instead, there should be references to empirical support and cross inspection by disinterested parties. Hopefully, the inspection will include professionals who are familiar with proper experimental design without resorting to inferential stats.

One day, I hope we will approach human problems in the same way science addresses chemistry, biology, and the other natural sciences. Proper science doesn't allow for philosophical ruminations that go un-inspected. Not so with psychology.

Somehow, psychology has managed to remain in a pre-scientific world of philosophical theory building and is vulnerable to all kinds of fads that seem to come and go... something that no other science seems to suffer in any comparable way. Only in psychology could we have highly respected leaders such as Timothy Leary (a Harvard psychologist!).

I often wonder why this is so. My best guess is that psychology fully depends on the naivety of their immediate customer: the general public. Not surprisingly, this is the same customer that supports astrology and psychics.

One can only hope that these theories will one day arrive at some reliable methods for improving lives even if it's just by accident.

I am going to see William Glasser speak in May '08. I am sure he will have interesting things to say, and I fully expect to be charmed by his ideas. I don't know. Like many others, I have been seduced by a variety of psychological ideas. However, it eventually became clear that we still stand in a position to help people that isn't much better than we were hundreds of years ago! No other science can make such a depressing claim. Why? Because the other sciences require the toil involved in the scientific method.

I have met many wonderful human beings that make a living in this soft-theory laden world, and Glasser is probably similarly wonderful. Nevertheless, the evidence is weak.

Behavior Analysis (the experimental analysis of behavior and applied behavior analysis) is the only "psychology" that takes pains to comply with the standards of natural science. The empirical support is unquestioned. The success rates are well documented. Of course, all are welcome to cross examine this assertion. After all, cross examination is the hallmark of real science!

I submit that Timothy Leary types are almost impossible in the field of behavior analysis (and chemistry, physics, astronomy etc.)

Unfortunately, traditional psychology is very uncomfortable with many of the implications of behavioral science. Interestingly, they seem to have more than their fair share of guru public speakers and icons. oh well.

P.S. I would be entirely comfortable if the field of behavioral science were removed from the rubric of psychology and, instead, locate itself within the field of biology. In this way, psychologists could do their own thing and behavior analysts could hang out with people with whom they can relate! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bfskinnerpunk (talkcontribs) 04:56, 2 March 2008 (UTC)Reply

I don’t think this is an appropriate place for your ranting about your opinions on the field of psychology. If you care to document empirical evidence for or against Glasser’s modality, perhaps doing so under the Reality Therapy topic would be best. FYI, there are also MANY peer reviewed psychological journals that adhear to firm scientific riggors and methodology. Negalith (talk) 22:55, 23 January 2009 (UTC)Reply